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# In the rectangular coordinate system above, if the coordinates of poin

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In the rectangular coordinate system above, if the coordinates of point P are (5,y), what is the value of y?

(1) The coordinates of point M are (5,0).

(2) The coordinates of point N are (0,−4).

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02 Jul 2016, 20:35
I am getting E

Since we are not sure whether NP is perpendicular to MP, we cant determine y=-4..

Can we trust the figure in DS?
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03 Jul 2016, 00:11
saurabh87 wrote:
I am getting E

Since we are not sure whether NP is perpendicular to MP, we cant determine y=-4..

Can we trust the figure in DS?

Although not drawn to scale ... we can take NP to be perpendicular to Y axis and MP perpendicular to X axis.

though we cannot say info in statement 1 is sufficient.
statement 2 is definitely sufficient.
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03 Jul 2016, 00:39
How do you know PN is parallel to the x-axis. If it is given that it is parallel, then the answer will be B.
The answer should be E in this case.

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03 Jul 2016, 00:47
B.Statement 2 alone is sufficient.
The points M and N are projections of P on x and y coordinates. So PN || x axis and PM || y axis.

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03 Jul 2016, 00:53
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B.Statement 2 alone is sufficient.
The points M and N are projections of P on x and y coordinates. So PN || x axis and PM || y axis.

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It is nowhere stated that M and N are projections of P on x and y coordinates. As far as I know, one should always consider what is given in the question rather then 'assume' on his/her own. P can have coordinates (5, -4.00000000000000000000001). In this case also the figure would look like the one given in the question.
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03 Jul 2016, 01:28
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ShreyasCM wrote:
B.Statement 2 alone is sufficient.
The points M and N are projections of P on x and y coordinates. So PN || x axis and PM || y axis.

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It is nowhere stated that M and N are projections of P on x and y coordinates. As far as I know, one should always consider what is given in the question rather then 'assume' on his/her own. P can have coordinates (5, -4.00000000000000000000001). In this case also the figure would look like the one given in the question.

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05 Jul 2016, 06:05
saurabh87 wrote:
In the rectangular coordinate system above, if the coordinates of point P are (5,y), what is the value of y?

(1) The coordinates of point M are (5,0).

(2) The coordinates of point N are (0,−4).

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Updated on: 19 Jul 2016, 11:51
saurabh87 wrote:
In the rectangular coordinate system above, if the coordinates of point P are (5,y), what is the value of y?

(1) The coordinates of point M are (5,0).

(2) The coordinates of point N are (0,−4).

In the rectangular coordinate system above, if the coordinates of point P are (5,y), what is the value of y?
We need the exact coordinate for y

I am working with the assumptions that they dotted lines are supposed to be parallel to the x and y axis. (this belief was bolstered when I saw the 2nd statement and found out that p and m has the same x coordinate x=5 and thus the sole purpose of the dotted line is to show parallelism. If you don't agree then the answer will change to E)
(1) The coordinates of point M are (5,0).
All we know from this is that p and m are two points on a vertical line passing through x=5
Gives no info about y. Not even some other hint to derive "y" by using distance formula or midpoint formula, pythagorys theorem... NOTHING to move with forward with.
INSUFFICIENT

(2) The coordinates of point N are (0,−4)
Delivers us the value of Y on a platter. y = -4
This is what we are looking for. P becomes (5,-4)
SUFFICIENT

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I have a feeling that the diagram in the original question (in the Princeton Review book) had some information that was not included in the poster's diagram.
I say this because, without any additional information, the answer is E
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20 Jul 2016, 00:34

as discussed above nowhere it is stated that line is parallel to x axis.
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25 Jul 2016, 10:55
saurabh87 wrote:
In the rectangular coordinate system above, if the coordinates of point P are (5,y), what is the value of y?

(1) The coordinates of point M are (5,0).

(2) The coordinates of point N are (0,−4).

OG clearly states that Diagrams should be taken as a source of truth unless clearly stated that Diagrams are not drawn to scale.

Since, in this question, nothing of that sort is mentioned, we will assume(as per OG) that PM and NP are perpendicular to respective axis.
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24 Mar 2018, 08:22
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saurabh87 wrote:
In the rectangular coordinate system above, if the coordinates of point P are (5,y), what is the value of y?

(1) The coordinates of point M are (5,0).

(2) The coordinates of point N are (0,−4).

OG clearly states that Diagrams should be taken as a source of truth unless clearly stated that Diagrams are not drawn to scale.

Since, in this question, nothing of that sort is mentioned, we will assume(as per OG) that PM and NP are perpendicular to respective axis.

Can you provide a reference for this?
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24 Mar 2018, 08:58
truongvu31 wrote:
abhimahna wrote:
saurabh87 wrote:
In the rectangular coordinate system above, if the coordinates of point P are (5,y), what is the value of y?

(1) The coordinates of point M are (5,0).

(2) The coordinates of point N are (0,−4).

OG clearly states that Diagrams should be taken as a source of truth unless clearly stated that Diagrams are not drawn to scale.

Since, in this question, nothing of that sort is mentioned, we will assume(as per OG) that PM and NP are perpendicular to respective axis.

Can you provide a reference for this?

In its current form, the answer tot the question is E, not C. We cannot assume that angle P is 90 degrees. This is why the question is tagged as poor quality.

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