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Hello everyone, I did the mock test recently and scored 600 (V24, Q46). My official test date is on 14 Dec 2018. Now I am learning Egmat and solve OG quant question, practice Magoosh quant and intend to sold Manhattan Advanced quant. As my targeted score is 720+, if I spend whole day for learning (~8-10hour) per day, is that enough for me to improve to my targeted score? Any suggestion and strategies, as well as learning method? My school deadline is in January so I have no chance to retake, I must have the desire score without fail. So I am looking for your sharing and advices.

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A 120 Point Jump will depend on your abilities as well. To score in the 700s , you should get all the easy and medium questions right, the 500 and 600 level questions.So keep that in mind It is surely possible. 8-10 hours for one month = 3 hours a day for 3 months approximately. Your Quant is ok , relatively since you need to push that by 2 -3 points but your verbal leaves a lot to be desired for. That is where I'd spent most of my time, if not almost all.

Are there any specific weaknesses? In Verbal - try Powerscore CR bible. (The pdf is available on the net). For RC's a document called Gin's RC notes helped me. It's on this site. If English is a problem for you, I'd have asked you to read a lot and get comfy-like articles and a novel perhaps? However you don't have much time. You can use GMAT Club's grammar book to go through rules.

You'd need to tell a little more for us to be specific. Do you know why you struggle with verbal? And where mostly?
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A 120 Point Jump will depend on your abilities as well. To score in the 700s , you should get all the easy and medium questions right, the 500 and 600 level questions.So keep that in mind It is surely possible. 8-10 hours for one month = 3 hours a day for 3 months approximately. Your Quant is ok , relatively since you need to push that by 2 -3 points but your verbal leaves a lot to be desired for. That is where I'd spent most of my time, if not almost all.

Are there any specific weaknesses? In Verbal - try Powerscore CR bible. (The pdf is available on the net). For RC's a document called Gin's RC notes helped me. It's on this site. If English is a problem for you, I'd have asked you to read a lot and get comfy-like articles and a novel perhaps? However you don't have much time. You can use GMAT Club's grammar book to go through rules.

You'd need to tell a little more for us to be specific. Do you know why you struggle with verbal? And where mostly?
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Hello thank you very much for your kindly response.

In Verbal, I am so bad at CR (~25% now) and RC, i rarely read English articles so I did verbal badly I guess. And moreover, i am not clear about the concept so I am trying to learning Egmat to have a thoroughly understanding about the concept in SC CR and RC. I will use Gin’s note as per your advice. For Quant, i am not good at probability but i will try to practice more. And my speed to solve the question is quite slow, i would need to improve it.

I am a bit worry for IR ans AWA, how many days should I spend to learn these 2 sections?

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Hello thank you very much for your kindly response.

In Verbal, I am so bad at CR (~25% now) and RC, i rarely read English articles so I did verbal badly I guess. And moreover, i am not clear about the concept so I am trying to learning Egmat to have a thoroughly understanding about the concept in SC CR and RC. I will use Gin’s note as per your advice. For Quant, i am not good at probability but i will try to practice more. And my speed to solve the question is quite slow, i would need to improve it.

I am a bit worry for IR ans AWA, how many days should I spend to learn these 2 sections?

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" And my speed to solve the question is quite slow, i would need to improve it."
As long as you are averaging out. There would be some questions you'd get under a minute and some in 3. Every time you do a question, also think about alternative ways to solve it. Since the GMAT is also a time bound exam , that'd surely help

"For Quant, i am not good at probability but i will try to practice more."

I am a bit worry for IR ans AWA, how many days should I spend to learn these 2 sections.

Some people do it in a day. Some people do it while giving practice tests. There is an AWA format in this forum, with the keywords and structure , which you can memorise and apply. As for IR i haven't touched it myself, but I plan to do it a little every time a give a practice test. Since IR and AWA don't influence the score, I plan to only get as much for it as to not catch the adcomm's eye.

Try searching NCERT probabilty class 11 on Google. Class 11 preferably. NCERT is my high school book and its examples make me understand really well. The pdf is available for download.

I'd really push you to make a habit to read but I don't think so it would change the scenario in a month. Do give Powerscore CR a try. If you search for it , you will find the download link. It helped me a lot.
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Hi Skyline393,

I’m glad you reached out, and I’m happy to help. First off, I think 8 to 10 hours of studying per day is a lot and actually may prove somewhat ineffective. Just keep an eye on how you are feeling each day. If by hour 6 or 7 you are starting to fizzle out, then give yourself a break, OK? Remember, a great study routine is a balance between quantity AND quality.

Regarding your study routine, since you are at a 600 (and 120 points away from your score goal), you need to ensure that you are following a linear and structured study plan (especially for verbal), such that you begin with the foundations prior to moving to more advanced topics. I realize that you need to take your GMAT in about 6 weeks; however, resist the urge to rush through your verbal prep. For example, let’s say you’re learning about Critical Reasoning. Your first goal is to fully master the individual Critical Reasoning topics: Strengthen the Argument, Weaken the Argument, Resolve the Paradox, etc. As you learn about each Critical Reasoning question type, do focused practice so that you can track your skill in answering each type of question. If, for example, you get a Weaken the Argument question wrong, ask yourself why. Did you make a careless mistake? Did you not recognize the specific question type? Were you doing too much analysis in your head? Did you skip over a keyword in an answer choice? You must thoroughly analyze your mistakes and seek to turn weaknesses into strengths by focusing on the question types you dread seeing and the questions you take a long time to answer correctly.

When practicing Reading Comprehension, you need to develop a reading strategy that is both efficient and thorough. Reading too fast and not understanding what you have read are equally as harmful as reading too slow and using up too much time. When attacking Reading Comprehension passages, you must have one clear goal in mind: to understand the context of what you are reading. However, you must do so efficiently, so you need to avoid getting bogged down in the details of each paragraph and instead focus on understanding the main point of each paragraph. That being said, do not fall into the trap of thinking that you can just read the intro and the conclusion and thereby comprehend the main idea of a paragraph. As you read a paragraph, consider how the context of the paragraph relates to previous paragraphs, so you can continue developing your overall understanding of the passage. Furthermore, as you practice Reading Comprehension, focus on the exact types of questions with which you struggle: Find the Main Idea, Inference, Author’s Tone, etc. As with Critical Reasoning, analyze your incorrect Reading Comprehension answers to better determine why you tend to get a particular question type wrong, and then improve upon your weaknesses. You can perfect your reading strategy with a lot of practice. However, keep in mind that GMAT Reading Comprehension passages are not meant to be easy to read. So, to better prepare yourself to tackle such passages, begin reading magazines with similar content and style, such as the Economist, Scientific American, and Smithsonian.

Sentence Correction is a bit of a different animal compared to Reading Comprehension and Critical Reasoning. There are three aspects to getting correct answers to GMAT Sentence Correction questions: what you know, such as grammar rules, what you see, such as violations of grammar rules and the logic of sentence structure, and what you do, such as carefully considering each answer choice in the context of the non-underlined portion of the sentence. To drive up your Sentence Correction score, you likely will have to work on all three of those aspects. Furthermore, your Sentence Correction performance likely has not improved because you have not been working on all three of those aspects.

Regarding what you know, first and foremost, you MUST know your grammar rules. Let's be clear, though: GMAT Sentence Correction is not just a test of knowledge of grammar rules. The reason for learning grammar rules is so that you can determine what sentences convey and whether sentences are well-constructed. In fact, in many cases, incorrect answers to Sentence Correction questions are grammatically flawless. Thus, often your task is to use your knowledge of grammar rules to determine which answer choice creates the most logical sentence meaning and structure.

This determination of whether sentences are well-constructed and logical is the second aspect of finding correct answers to Sentence Correction questions, what you see. To develop this skill, you probably have to slow way down. You won't develop this skill by spending under two minutes per question. For a while, anyway, you have to spend time with each question, maybe even ten or fifteen minutes on one question sometimes, analyzing every answer choice until you see the details that you have to see in order to choose the correct answer. As you go through the answer choices, consider the meaning conveyed by each version of the sentence. Does the meaning make sense? Even if you can tell what the version is SUPPOSED to convey, does the version really convey that meaning? Is there a verb to go with the subject? Do all pronouns clearly refer to nouns? By slowing way down and looking for these details, you learn to see what you have to see in order to clearly understand which answer to a Sentence Correction question is correct.

There is only one correct answer to any Sentence Correction question, there are clear reasons why that choice is correct and the others are not, and those reasons are not that the correct version simply "sounds right." In fact, the correct version often sounds a little off at first. That correct answers may sound a little off is not surprising. If the correct answer were always the one that sounded right, then most people most of the time would get Sentence Correction questions correct, without really knowing why the wrong answers were wrong and the correct answers were correct. So, you have to go beyond choosing what "sounds right" and learn to clearly see the logical reasons why one choice is better than all of the others.

As for the third aspect of getting Sentence Correction questions correct, what you do, the main thing you have to do is be very careful. You have to make sure that you are truly considering the structures of sentences and the meanings conveyed rather than allowing yourself to be tricked into choosing trap answers that sound right but don't convey meanings that make sense. You also have to make sure that you put some real energy into finding the correct answers. Finding the correct answer to a Sentence Correction question may take bouncing from choice to choice repeatedly until you start to see the differences between the choices that make all choices wrong except for one. Often, when you first look at the choices, only one or two seem obviously incorrect. It may take time for you to see what you have to see. Getting the right answers takes a certain work ethic. You have to be determined to see the differences and to figure out the precise reasons that one choice is correct.

To improve what you do when you answer Sentence Correction questions, seek to become aware of how you are going about answering them. Are you being careful and looking for logic and details, or are you quickly eliminating choices that sound a little off and then choosing the best of the rest? If you choose an incorrect answer, consider what you did that resulted in your arriving at that answer and what you could do differently in order to arrive at correct answers more consistently. Furthermore, see how many questions you can get correct in a row as you practice. If you break your streak by missing one, consider what you could have done differently to extend your streak.

As with your Critical Reasoning and Reading Comprehension regimens, after learning a particular Sentence Correction topic, engage in focused practice with 30 questions or more that involve that topic. As your Sentence Correction skills improve, you will then want to practice with questions that test you on skills from multiple Sentence Correction topics.

Although your quant score is better than your verbal score, you may consider improving your GMAT quant score as well. To improve in GMAT quant, you can follow a study routine similar to the one I suggested for verbal. For example, if you find that you are not strong in answering Number Properties questions, carefully review the conceptual underpinnings of how to answer Number Properties questions and practice by answering 50 or more questions just from Number Properties: LCM, GCF, units digit patterns, divisibility, remainders, etc. When you are working on learning to answer questions of a particular type, start off taking your time, and then seek to speed up as you get more comfortable answering questions of that type. As you practice, do a thorough analysis of each question that you don't get right. If you got a remainder question wrong, ask yourself why. Did you make a careless mistake? Did you not properly apply the remainder formula? Was there a concept you did not understand in the question? By carefully analyzing your mistakes, you will be able to efficiently fix your weaknesses and in turn improve your GMAT quant skills. Number Properties is just one example; follow this process for all quant topics.

You also may find my it helpful to read my article about
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Hello everyone, I did the mock test recently and scored 600 (V24, Q46). My official test date is on 14 Dec 2018. Now I am learning Egmat and solve OG quant question, practice Magoosh quant and intend to sold Manhattan Advanced quant. As my targeted score is 720+, if I spend whole day for learning (~8-10hour) per day, is that enough for me to improve to my targeted score? Any suggestion and strategies, as well as learning method? My school deadline is in January so I have no chance to retake, I must have the desire score without fail. So I am looking for your sharing and advices.

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Thank you very much for your advice, i will try it

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Hi Skyline393,

I’m glad you reached out, and I’m happy to help. First off, I think 8 to 10 hours of studying per day is a lot and actually may prove somewhat ineffective. Just keep an eye on how you are feeling each day. If by hour 6 or 7 you are starting to fizzle out, then give yourself a break, OK? Remember, a great study routine is a balance between quantity AND quality.

Regarding your study routine, since you are at a 600 (and 120 points away from your score goal), you need to ensure that you are following a linear and structured study plan (especially for verbal), such that you begin with the foundations prior to moving to more advanced topics. I realize that you need to take your GMAT in about 6 weeks; however, resist the urge to rush through your verbal prep. For example, let’s say you’re learning about Critical Reasoning. Your first goal is to fully master the individual Critical Reasoning topics: Strengthen the Argument, Weaken the Argument, Resolve the Paradox, etc. As you learn about each Critical Reasoning question type, do focused practice so that you can track your skill in answering each type of question. If, for example, you get a Weaken the Argument question wrong, ask yourself why. Did you make a careless mistake? Did you not recognize the specific question type? Were you doing too much analysis in your head? Did you skip over a keyword in an answer choice? You must thoroughly analyze your mistakes and seek to turn weaknesses into strengths by focusing on the question types you dread seeing and the questions you take a long time to answer correctly.

When practicing Reading Comprehension, you need to develop a reading strategy that is both efficient and thorough. Reading too fast and not understanding what you have read are equally as harmful as reading too slow and using up too much time. When attacking Reading Comprehension passages, you must have one clear goal in mind: to understand the context of what you are reading. However, you must do so efficiently, so you need to avoid getting bogged down in the details of each paragraph and instead focus on understanding the main point of each paragraph. That being said, do not fall into the trap of thinking that you can just read the intro and the conclusion and thereby comprehend the main idea of a paragraph. As you read a paragraph, consider how the context of the paragraph relates to previous paragraphs, so you can continue developing your overall understanding of the passage. Furthermore, as you practice Reading Comprehension, focus on the exact types of questions with which you struggle: Find the Main Idea, Inference, Author’s Tone, etc. As with Critical Reasoning, analyze your incorrect Reading Comprehension answers to better determine why you tend to get a particular question type wrong, and then improve upon your weaknesses. You can perfect your reading strategy with a lot of practice. However, keep in mind that GMAT Reading Comprehension passages are not meant to be easy to read. So, to better prepare yourself to tackle such passages, begin reading magazines with similar content and style, such as the Economist, Scientific American, and Smithsonian.

Sentence Correction is a bit of a different animal compared to Reading Comprehension and Critical Reasoning. There are three aspects to getting correct answers to GMAT Sentence Correction questions: what you know, such as grammar rules, what you see, such as violations of grammar rules and the logic of sentence structure, and what you do, such as carefully considering each answer choice in the context of the non-underlined portion of the sentence. To drive up your Sentence Correction score, you likely will have to work on all three of those aspects. Furthermore, your Sentence Correction performance likely has not improved because you have not been working on all three of those aspects.

Regarding what you know, first and foremost, you MUST know your grammar rules. Let's be clear, though: GMAT Sentence Correction is not just a test of knowledge of grammar rules. The reason for learning grammar rules is so that you can determine what sentences convey and whether sentences are well-constructed. In fact, in many cases, incorrect answers to Sentence Correction questions are grammatically flawless. Thus, often your task is to use your knowledge of grammar rules to determine which answer choice creates the most logical sentence meaning and structure.

This determination of whether sentences are well-constructed and logical is the second aspect of finding correct answers to Sentence Correction questions, what you see. To develop this skill, you probably have to slow way down. You won't develop this skill by spending under two minutes per question. For a while, anyway, you have to spend time with each question, maybe even ten or fifteen minutes on one question sometimes, analyzing every answer choice until you see the details that you have to see in order to choose the correct answer. As you go through the answer choices, consider the meaning conveyed by each version of the sentence. Does the meaning make sense? Even if you can tell what the version is SUPPOSED to convey, does the version really convey that meaning? Is there a verb to go with the subject? Do all pronouns clearly refer to nouns? By slowing way down and looking for these details, you learn to see what you have to see in order to clearly understand which answer to a Sentence Correction question is correct.

There is only one correct answer to any Sentence Correction question, there are clear reasons why that choice is correct and the others are not, and those reasons are not that the correct version simply "sounds right." In fact, the correct version often sounds a little off at first. That correct answers may sound a little off is not surprising. If the correct answer were always the one that sounded right, then most people most of the time would get Sentence Correction questions correct, without really knowing why the wrong answers were wrong and the correct answers were correct. So, you have to go beyond choosing what "sounds right" and learn to clearly see the logical reasons why one choice is better than all of the others.

As for the third aspect of getting Sentence Correction questions correct, what you do, the main thing you have to do is be very careful. You have to make sure that you are truly considering the structures of sentences and the meanings conveyed rather than allowing yourself to be tricked into choosing trap answers that sound right but don't convey meanings that make sense. You also have to make sure that you put some real energy into finding the correct answers. Finding the correct answer to a Sentence Correction question may take bouncing from choice to choice repeatedly until you start to see the differences between the choices that make all choices wrong except for one. Often, when you first look at the choices, only one or two seem obviously incorrect. It may take time for you to see what you have to see. Getting the right answers takes a certain work ethic. You have to be determined to see the differences and to figure out the precise reasons that one choice is correct.

To improve what you do when you answer Sentence Correction questions, seek to become aware of how you are going about answering them. Are you being careful and looking for logic and details, or are you quickly eliminating choices that sound a little off and then choosing the best of the rest? If you choose an incorrect answer, consider what you did that resulted in your arriving at that answer and what you could do differently in order to arrive at correct answers more consistently. Furthermore, see how many questions you can get correct in a row as you practice. If you break your streak by missing one, consider what you could have done differently to extend your streak.

As with your Critical Reasoning and Reading Comprehension regimens, after learning a particular Sentence Correction topic, engage in focused practice with 30 questions or more that involve that topic. As your Sentence Correction skills improve, you will then want to practice with questions that test you on skills from multiple Sentence Correction topics.

Although your quant score is better than your verbal score, you may consider improving your GMAT quant score as well. To improve in GMAT quant, you can follow a study routine similar to the one I suggested for verbal. For example, if you find that you are not strong in answering Number Properties questions, carefully review the conceptual underpinnings of how to answer Number Properties questions and practice by answering 50 or more questions just from Number Properties: LCM, GCF, units digit patterns, divisibility, remainders, etc. When you are working on learning to answer questions of a particular type, start off taking your time, and then seek to speed up as you get more comfortable answering questions of that type. As you practice, do a thorough analysis of each question that you don't get right. If you got a remainder question wrong, ask yourself why. Did you make a careless mistake? Did you not properly apply the remainder formula? Was there a concept you did not understand in the question? By carefully analyzing your mistakes, you will be able to efficiently fix your weaknesses and in turn improve your GMAT quant skills. Number Properties is just one example; follow this process for all quant topics.

You also may find my it helpful to read my article about
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Feel free to reach out with any further questions.

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Hello everyone, I did the mock test recently and scored 600 (V24, Q46). My official test date is on 14 Dec 2018. Now I am learning Egmat and solve OG quant question, practice Magoosh quant and intend to sold Manhattan Advanced quant. As my targeted score is 720+, if I spend whole day for learning (~8-10hour) per day, is that enough for me to improve to my targeted score? Any suggestion and strategies, as well as learning method? My school deadline is in January so I have no chance to retake, I must have the desire score without fail. So I am looking for your sharing and advices.

Thank you very much :)


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Asked yourself a couple of questions

Do you really understand each and everything you read for 8-10 hours/day?
Did your efficiency and effectiveness remains same for 8-10 hours daily study?

In my point of view, it is not wise to study 8-10 hours daily. 4-5 hours with full attention are more than enough. And don't study more than 2 hours in one sit. One advice for your prep is during you Practicing question don't forget to make an error log to track your weak areas after practice. Once you know your weak areas revise your Concepts related to those areas and do some more Practice.

Good Luck


I am trying to spend 2hrs in the morning, 4.5 hrs in the afternoon and then 2hr at night. Sometime i am distracted and a bit sleepy thought, but i am trying to learn as i only have 1 month toward my test date. I will use error log as per ur advice. Thank youuuu

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