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Is X>Y ?

(1) square root X > square root Y
(2) X^2 > Y^2


All we know from (1) is that X and Y are positive (i.e. it could be an integer or a fraction). Consider an example:

X=4, Y=9 => sqrt(X)<sqrt(Y);
X=1/4, Y=1/9 => sqrt(X)>sqrt(Y);

Therefore, (1) alone is clearly not sufficient.

From (2) X and Y could be either positive or negative, thus, (2) alone is also not sufficient.

Combine => X&Y are positive.

Looks like the answer is E.


IMO, I think you need to re=examine your analysis for condition (1).
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You should start from data sets to answer the question, not vice versa.

(1) square root X > square root Y

X and Y are nonnegative

sqrt 9> sqrt 4 => 3>2 => X>Y
sqrt 1/4 > sqrt 1/9 => 1/2>1/3 => X>Y
sqrt 100 > sqrt 1/9 => 10>1/3 => X>Y
sqrt 1/4 > sqrt 0 => 1/2>0 => X>Y

More than enough

(2) clearly not sufficient because of even powers

9>4 => 3>2 => X>Y OR
9>4 => -3<2 => X<Y

Finally, A.
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Explaination by stolyar is perfect.

Sqrt of X is greater than X if X < 1 but here the comparison is between 2 different numbers X and Y. So A is sufficient.
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pls correct my approach in solving this problem..

1, square root X > square root Y
Consider value: x=9, y= 4 so, suare root of 9 = 3, AND 4 = 2, AND 9>4 so AD...
2, X^2>Y^2
here x= 1,y= 2 so 1 is not greater than 2, so

only A....

can we consider negative values in square root??
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pls correct my approach in solving this problem..

1, square root X > square root Y
Consider value: x=9, y= 4 so, suare root of 9 = 3, AND 4 = 2, AND 9>4 so AD...
2, X^2>Y^2
here x= 1,y= 2 so 1 is not greater than 2, so

only A....

can we consider negative values in square root??

You cannot get sufficiency based only on one set of numbers. Thus theoretically testing only one set of numbers can give you an incorrect answer.

As for your other questions: the even roots from negative numbers are not defined for the GMAT, which means that for \(\sqrt{x}\) to be defined, x must be more than or equal to zero.

Hope it's clear.
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pls correct my approach in solving this problem..

1, square root X > square root Y
Consider value: x=9, y= 4 so, suare root of 9 = 3, AND 4 = 2, AND 9>4 so AD...
2, X^2>Y^2
here x= 1,y= 2 so 1 is not greater than 2, so

only A....

can we consider negative values in square root??

You cannot get sufficiency based only on one set of numbers. Thus theoretically testing only one set of numbers can give you an incorrect answer.

As for your other questions: the even roots from negative numbers are not defined for the GMAT, which means that for \(\sqrt{x}\) to be defined, x must be more than or equal to zero.

Hope it's clear.


But what about taking negative root of a number?

So in this case, what if we take negative root of X and positive root of Y? In that case option A won't be sufficient...

Where am I going wrong?

Thanks in advance!
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pls correct my approach in solving this problem..

1, square root X > square root Y
Consider value: x=9, y= 4 so, suare root of 9 = 3, AND 4 = 2, AND 9>4 so AD...
2, X^2>Y^2
here x= 1,y= 2 so 1 is not greater than 2, so

only A....

can we consider negative values in square root??

You cannot get sufficiency based only on one set of numbers. Thus theoretically testing only one set of numbers can give you an incorrect answer.

As for your other questions: the even roots from negative numbers are not defined for the GMAT, which means that for \(\sqrt{x}\) to be defined, x must be more than or equal to zero.

Hope it's clear.


But what about taking negative root of a number?

So in this case, what if we take negative root of X and positive root of Y? In that case option A won't be sufficient...

Where am I going wrong?

Thanks in advance!
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I am assuming that you are talking about taking the negative square of a number? Something similar to , if given x^2 > y^2 ---> \(\sqrt{x^2} > \sqrt{y^2}\) ?

Note that for GMAT, square root of any positive number 'x' = \(\sqrt {x}\) \(\geq\) 0. There are no 'negative' square roots for GMAT.

2 points to note (copied from math-number-theory-88376.html):

• \(\sqrt{x^2}=|x|\), when x≤0, then \(\sqrt{x^2}=−x\) and when x≥0, then \(\sqrt{x^2}=x\)

• When the GMAT provides the square root sign for an even root, such as \(\sqrt{x}\) or \(\sqrt[4]{x}\), then the only accepted answer is the positive root.

That is, \(\sqrt{25}=5\), NOT +5 or -5. In contrast, the equation \(x^2=25\) has TWO solutions, +5 and -5. Even roots have only a positive value on the GMAT.

Hope this helps.
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But what about taking negative root of a number?

So in this case, what if we take negative root of X and positive root of Y? In that case option A won't be sufficient...

Where am I going wrong?

Thanks in advance!
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I am assuming that you are talking about taking the negative square of a number? Something similar to , if given x^2 > y^2 ---> \(\sqrt{x^2} > \sqrt{y^2}\) ?

Note that for GMAT, square root of any positive number 'x' = \(\sqrt {x}\) \(\geq\) 0. There are no 'negative' square roots for GMAT.

2 points to note (copied from math-number-theory-88376.html):

• \(\sqrt{x^2}=|x|\), when x≤0, then \(\sqrt{x^2}=−x\) and when x≥0, then \(\sqrt{x^2}=x\)

• When the GMAT provides the square root sign for an even root, such as \(\sqrt{x}\) or \(\sqrt[4]{x}\), then the only accepted answer is the positive root.

That is, \(\sqrt{25}=5\), NOT +5 or -5. In contrast, the equation \(x^2=25\) has TWO solutions, +5 and -5. Even roots have only a positive value on the GMAT.

Hope this helps.[/quote]


Got it! Thanks! :)
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Is x>y?

(1) \(\sqrt{x}>\sqrt{y}\)
(2) \(x^2>y^2\) -

Is x>y?
(1) \(\sqrt{x}>\sqrt{y}\)
The output of a square root is always a single positive root ; ONE UNIQUE POSITIVE ROOT VALUE
\(\sqrt{X} >\sqrt{Y}\); therefore X>Y
SUFFICIENT

(2) \(x^2>y^2\)
For all practical purposes any number \(n^2\) can be seen as \(| n |\) and will always have a positive and negative root : TWO UNIQUE ROOT VALUES (+VE , -VE)
Since X can be bigger or smaller than Y (depending upon the relative sign of x and y); Nothing can be said with confidence
example \(-5^2 > 4^2\) but -5 < 4
example \(-3^2 < -4^2\) but -3> -4
INSUFFICIENT

ANSWER IS ONLY A
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