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Kellogg Vs GSB - Sound Off 18 Dec 2006, 16:30
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I'm just curious. How many of you would pick GSB over Kellogg or Kellogg over GSB?

Caveat: I haven't yet heard from KGSM.

Moreover, if you vote, post why you'd pick what you pick. Explain and substantiate your viewpoints.
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Kellogg Vs GSB - Sound Off 18 Dec 2006, 16:33
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rhyme,

it would help this thread if you listed some pros and cons for each. of course some of these reasons will be entirely subjective, but they are still important factors.
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what's the deal about disclosing the grades? to whom??? :?
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Kellogg Vs GSB - Sound Off 18 Dec 2006, 16:58
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So you dont know what you want to do after MBA? what did you write in the essays?
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I have, at best, a vague idea. I wrote with conviction in my essays, but in all honesty, I'm not entirely sure of what I want to do.
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Kellogg Vs GSB - Sound Off 18 Dec 2006, 17:01
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So you dont know what you want to do after MBA? what did you write in the essays?


I have, at best, a vague idea. I wrote with conviction in my essays, but in all honesty, I'm not entirely sure of what I want to do.
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...well then when you get into Kellog, you will have another challenge. Im sure there are many variables that will sway you either way, but to make it very simple....I would go with Chicago if I want to be a quant heavy field, or pick Kellogg if I want a more creative job...so what are you into - quant or creative?
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i vote for GSB....

GSB has that special rep within the financial industry ( i know - no IB for rhyme, but other paths such as IM, PE, etc...) and still has solid placement in other industries such as consulting, corporate, etc.....

since you're not exactly sure which path you want to take post-mba, i believe that GSB will give you a slight edge as far as options, esp considering that their curiculum is more flexible.

unless you're leaning heavily towards the marketing industry, my vote stands firm with gsb- but man, it's stillll such a tough choice!

what does your heart say? :-D i say you go with what your heart is telling you. oh yeah, should prob consider your woman's opinion too!
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So you dont know what you want to do after MBA? what did you write in the essays?

I have, at best, a vague idea. I wrote with conviction in my essays, but in all honesty, I'm not entirely sure of what I want to do.
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Many people get the feel of what they want in the first semester correct?
Isnt the first sem at GSB a bit moee structured?
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So you dont know what you want to do after MBA? what did you write in the essays?


I have, at best, a vague idea. I wrote with conviction in my essays, but in all honesty, I'm not entirely sure of what I want to do.

...well then when you get into Kellog, you will have another challenge. Im sure there are many variables that will sway you either way, but to make it very simple....I would go with Chicago if I want to be a quant heavy field, or pick Kellogg if I want a more creative job...so what are you into - quant or creative?
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creative. Hands down.
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So you dont know what you want to do after MBA? what did you write in the essays?

I have, at best, a vague idea. I wrote with conviction in my essays, but in all honesty, I'm not entirely sure of what I want to do.

Many people get the feel of what they want in the first semester correct?
Isnt the first sem at GSB a bit moee structured?
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I dont think so. GSB only has ONE required course. After that, you pick.
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Kellogg Vs GSB - Sound Off 18 Dec 2006, 18:43
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Personally, I decided not to apply to Kellogg so I voted for GSB.

The main reason was that Chicago appears to be more on the cutting edge in terms of curriculum, facilities and ideas. Kellogg is definitely behind in terms of facilities, but I also get the feeling that their programs are becoming more stale. It's just a general feeling that I got while attending information sessions and interacting with folks from both schools.

I'm also pretty sure I want to go into finance initially and GSB is obviously a leader in terms of reputation and job placements as well as new ideas and curriculum. GSB has much more flexibility in their curriculum. It's really designed so that you can take courses early on to prepare for your internship.

Regarding whether you know exactly what you want to do, and how you write your essays I think back to something that Linda Meehan the assistant dean of admissions from Columbia said at an info session. She said that she's well aware that 60% of the people do not end up doing what they indicate in their applications, and if the school is doing its job it will be exposing students to a lot of different fields and ideas that might influence their career paths; but it was still important to show that you have given a lot of thought about what you want to do and to write about your goals convincingly. It's OK to change and expand after you get to school.
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Kellogg Vs GSB - Sound Off 19 Dec 2006, 00:14
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Although the GSB flexible curriculum is very attractive, if faced with this almighty decision (thank god I won't be) I would go with Kellogg because I am not a quant jock.
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Kellogg Vs GSB - Sound Off 19 Dec 2006, 02:45
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I chose GSB. I just liked GSB people I have met much much better than Kellog people.

(Not to mention I was dinged by K ;) )
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Although the GSB flexible curriculum is very attractive, if faced with this almighty decision (thank god I won't be) I would go with Kellogg because I am not a quant jock.
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This is generally speaking, my only worry with GSB. I'm much more a creative person than I am a math geek.
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If someone is interested in VC, then Kellogg is no match for GSB. GSB has a one-of-its-kinds "PE/VC" laborarory coursework, where you work 20-hours-a-week with a local chicago VC firm and get credits for this hands-on experience, not to mention the solid contacts and network you build in this process. To all the budding wannabe VCs, this can make all the difference. To add to this, there is a top-notch faculty, some of which have been accomplished VC partners in their previous jobs.
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If someone is interested in VC, then Kellogg is no match for GSB. GSB has a one-of-its-kinds "PE/VC" laborarory coursework, where you work 20-hours-a-week with a local chicago VC firm and get credits for this hands-on experience, not to mention the solid contacts and network you build in this process. To all the budding wannabe VCs, this can make all the difference. To add to this, there is a top-notch faculty, some of which have been accomplished VC partners in their previous jobs.
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You know, I have no idea what someone in VC really does. Care to enlighten me?
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If someone is interested in VC, then Kellogg is no match for GSB. GSB has a one-of-its-kinds "PE/VC" laborarory coursework, where you work 20-hours-a-week with a local chicago VC firm and get credits for this hands-on experience, not to mention the solid contacts and network you build in this process. To all the budding wannabe VCs, this can make all the difference. To add to this, there is a top-notch faculty, some of which have been accomplished VC partners in their previous jobs.

You know, I have no idea what someone in VC really does. Care to enlighten me?
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Ask an entrepreneur and he would tell you exactly what a VC does - Sits on a pile of cash (which is ofcourse not his own), makes random decisions whether to fund an idea or not, values the company in an unjustifiable way, asks for a big equity stake, sits on the board of directors and interfere with the day-to-day operations, gets a huge salary and charges an enormous management fees on the fund profit..
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If someone is interested in VC, then Kellogg is no match for GSB. GSB has a one-of-its-kinds "PE/VC" laborarory coursework, where you work 20-hours-a-week with a local chicago VC firm and get credits for this hands-on experience, not to mention the solid contacts and network you build in this process. To all the budding wannabe VCs, this can make all the difference. To add to this, there is a top-notch faculty, some of which have been accomplished VC partners in their previous jobs.

You know, I have no idea what someone in VC really does. Care to enlighten me?

Ask an entrepreneur and he would tell you exactly what a VC does - Sits on a pile of cash (which is ofcourse not his own), makes random decisions whether to fund an idea or not, values the company in an unjustifiable way, asks for a big equity stake, sits on the board of directors and interfere with the day-to-day operations, gets a huge salary and charges an enormous management fees on the fund profit..
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Oversimplified, but from the perspective of an entrepreneur, its understandable to look at it that way. VC firms have to show performance just like any other firm.

Some of you may enjoy taking this aptitude test..
https://blog.guykawasaki.com/2006/11/the ... e_cap.html
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If someone is interested in VC, then Kellogg is no match for GSB. GSB has a one-of-its-kinds "PE/VC" laborarory coursework, where you work 20-hours-a-week with a local chicago VC firm and get credits for this hands-on experience, not to mention the solid contacts and network you build in this process. To all the budding wannabe VCs, this can make all the difference. To add to this, there is a top-notch faculty, some of which have been accomplished VC partners in their previous jobs.

You know, I have no idea what someone in VC really does. Care to enlighten me?

Ask an entrepreneur and he would tell you exactly what a VC does - Sits on a pile of cash (which is ofcourse not his own), makes random decisions whether to fund an idea or not, values the company in an unjustifiable way, asks for a big equity stake, sits on the board of directors and interfere with the day-to-day operations, gets a huge salary and charges an enormous management fees on the fund profit..
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I meant more on a day to day basis, what the job actually entails. I know what a VC does in that sense of course, I just meant what the day in the life was like.
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If someone is interested in VC, then Kellogg is no match for GSB. GSB has a one-of-its-kinds "PE/VC" laborarory coursework, where you work 20-hours-a-week with a local chicago VC firm and get credits for this hands-on experience, not to mention the solid contacts and network you build in this process. To all the budding wannabe VCs, this can make all the difference. To add to this, there is a top-notch faculty, some of which have been accomplished VC partners in their previous jobs.

You know, I have no idea what someone in VC really does. Care to enlighten me?

Ask an entrepreneur and he would tell you exactly what a VC does - Sits on a pile of cash (which is ofcourse not his own), makes random decisions whether to fund an idea or not, values the company in an unjustifiable way, asks for a big equity stake, sits on the board of directors and interfere with the day-to-day operations, gets a huge salary and charges an enormous management fees on the fund profit..

I meant more on a day to day basis, what the job actually entails. I know what a VC does in that sense of course, I just meant what the day in the life was like.
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I dont have any first-hand VC experience. but, I would assume a lot of it depends on whether its an early stage or a late stage VC fund - Early stage VCs may be spending a lot of their time recruiting senior management for startups. Late stage may be working closely with Investment banks for getting out the IPO. Broadly speaking, a VC's job in a day would be socializing, meeting people, meeting CEOs of portfolio companies and offering their *expert* advice. Once in a while, they would ofcourse be working on deal structures. At Associate level, the job may involve conducting due-diligence and filtering out bad business plans from the good ones before reaching partner's desk.
Last month, I was reading "eBoys" - a great insider of Benchmark Capital partners. Its a good book to understand more about VC.
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looks like you have already made your decision, as evident by your change in picture there...

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