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02 Oct 2023, 07:45
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TLDR- My GMAT score is way better for verbal than for quants, although I spent much less time on verbal. Should I reconsider applying to MSc Finance programs? What are some business degrees with a somewhat high ROI and a more diluted emphasis on quant skills?
Hi guys,
I gave my first (and for now only) GMAT attempt today. Got 720(Q44, V47, IR5). Although I'm happy with the overall score, I am pretty disappointed with the quants section. I was planning to apply to MSc Finance programs, but the low quants would really hurt my admission chances. I'm sure I can improve my quant scores to Q49-50 with 2-3 additional months of prep, but by that point I would probably have to apply in the 3rd/4th admission rounds, which I'm not too keen on. But that's a topic for another forum, let's move on to the broader dilemma that I'm facing.
Looking at my score would make you think that I worked hard on verbal and was probably over-confident when it came to quants right? Wrong. I spent most of my 5-month prep period working on quants (mind you, my job made it very difficult to prep consistently). Barely touched verbal except watching a few strategy videos and solving the questions I came across in full-length CATs and 'question of the day' posts. So, in terms of time and effort invested vs score, verbal definitely won. I also can't attribute either score to luck. My score for the official mock I gave two days ago was EXACTLY the same. Sure, my quant score was affected to a extent by nerves (ran out of time and didn't attempt the last 3 questions), but at best I would have probably still scored Q47 or lower. On the other hand, I have consistently scored 41+ in verbal from the start.
Coming to the actual point, this experience has me reflecting back on my choice of course. I sort of fell into the Accounts and Finance specialization in my Business Administration Bachelors simply because I generally got good grades and am an introvert. Of course, the awesome pay for Finance graduates also played a role. But now that I know that the skills tested in the verbal section come to me much more naturally that quants, should I start looking at other programs for my Masters? Not that I mind working hard and improving my quantitative aptitude, but what are some fields where quants is balanced out by other skills? And degrees where I would get a decent financial ROI as well?
More context if you're interested-
Currently working in Internal Audit/ Risk Advisory in a Big 4 firm. Pretty creative mindset, love learning new things and enjoy variety and flexibility in whatever I'm working on. As you can tell by the scores, I'm pretty good at critical thinking and have an eye for detail. Although my essay writing skills have gotten pretty rusty (I did NOT prepare for AWA and IR much, oops), I really enjoyed writing essays and stories in school. Ok, to be honest, as a subject, I've always liked English more than Maths. Maths is still interesting, just not my forte.
I would still like to study something that is related to Business though, and financial ROI is important (although only upto a certain point). It's also important that the work I do aligns with my values, another front where I've had doubts about going into Finance. (My views on capitalism, etc. don't quite align with the most of the job roles I'd be offered). My social skills have improved a lot with time to the point where I actually enjoy striking up conversations with strangers. I have also thought about starting my own business, freelancing or even teaching, later on in my career.
Sorry for the long read. I know right now I sound like I haven't done much of my own research, which is true to an extent, but I'd be very grateful if any of you could nudge me in the right direction.
Hi guys,
I gave my first (and for now only) GMAT attempt today. Got 720(Q44, V47, IR5). Although I'm happy with the overall score, I am pretty disappointed with the quants section. I was planning to apply to MSc Finance programs, but the low quants would really hurt my admission chances. I'm sure I can improve my quant scores to Q49-50 with 2-3 additional months of prep, but by that point I would probably have to apply in the 3rd/4th admission rounds, which I'm not too keen on. But that's a topic for another forum, let's move on to the broader dilemma that I'm facing.
Looking at my score would make you think that I worked hard on verbal and was probably over-confident when it came to quants right? Wrong. I spent most of my 5-month prep period working on quants (mind you, my job made it very difficult to prep consistently). Barely touched verbal except watching a few strategy videos and solving the questions I came across in full-length CATs and 'question of the day' posts. So, in terms of time and effort invested vs score, verbal definitely won. I also can't attribute either score to luck. My score for the official mock I gave two days ago was EXACTLY the same. Sure, my quant score was affected to a extent by nerves (ran out of time and didn't attempt the last 3 questions), but at best I would have probably still scored Q47 or lower. On the other hand, I have consistently scored 41+ in verbal from the start.
Coming to the actual point, this experience has me reflecting back on my choice of course. I sort of fell into the Accounts and Finance specialization in my Business Administration Bachelors simply because I generally got good grades and am an introvert. Of course, the awesome pay for Finance graduates also played a role. But now that I know that the skills tested in the verbal section come to me much more naturally that quants, should I start looking at other programs for my Masters? Not that I mind working hard and improving my quantitative aptitude, but what are some fields where quants is balanced out by other skills? And degrees where I would get a decent financial ROI as well?
More context if you're interested-
Currently working in Internal Audit/ Risk Advisory in a Big 4 firm. Pretty creative mindset, love learning new things and enjoy variety and flexibility in whatever I'm working on. As you can tell by the scores, I'm pretty good at critical thinking and have an eye for detail. Although my essay writing skills have gotten pretty rusty (I did NOT prepare for AWA and IR much, oops), I really enjoyed writing essays and stories in school. Ok, to be honest, as a subject, I've always liked English more than Maths. Maths is still interesting, just not my forte.
I would still like to study something that is related to Business though, and financial ROI is important (although only upto a certain point). It's also important that the work I do aligns with my values, another front where I've had doubts about going into Finance. (My views on capitalism, etc. don't quite align with the most of the job roles I'd be offered). My social skills have improved a lot with time to the point where I actually enjoy striking up conversations with strangers. I have also thought about starting my own business, freelancing or even teaching, later on in my career.
Sorry for the long read. I know right now I sound like I haven't done much of my own research, which is true to an extent, but I'd be very grateful if any of you could nudge me in the right direction.
02 Oct 2023, 08:13
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Hi. I I think you have quite a few things going on and Jim is probably the least critical of them 😇
1. Sounds like you have a great job. Working in Big four is quite an achievement and an accomplishment.
2. I have not heard a lot of the reasons why you want to get a masters. Why do you want to quit your job, spend a year in school, borrow money, and then go back to finding another job. If you’re not certain about the job you want, why do you think having a masters in finance will help you get the job? Figuring out what it is that you want to do and what would make you happier, would it be a very valuable move. It’s not easy and you can proceed without completing this step, but the value of having a goal and the plan and executing it with the purpose with significantly Increase your satisfaction. Otherwise you’ll keep doubting if this is the right move if you’re not sure that you want to go where you’re going.
3. In terms of the score and your strengths and weaknesses, I think it’s very fair to say that patterns and number puzzles and things like that than not your natural interest. I don’t think it would keep you from a masters program or a finance program. But do you want to spend the year doing math And then for the rest of your life? And maybe that’s fine. Maybe you don’t love it but you don’t hate it either…
4. In terms of the career and the job, it’s helpful to identify with your good at naturally. That will make you more likely to be successful in what you do but not necessarily happy. Happiness comes from other elements such as having a strong team, supportive leaders and good people. If you are successful at your job, and you have a great team, you’ll be happy. At the same time, if you are not failing at your job and doing it just OK and you have a great team, you will still probably be happy. As the result, important who you work with rather than what you do.
I would just buy a bunch of personality or career tests. I’ve seen a few floating out there for like 40 or 50 bucks and take them to give you some ideas and help you perhaps stumble on the career path that may be of interest and then you can research a few of those and see what it takes and what kind of Skills they require and how you can get there. For example, maybe you are a part of the investor relations team. You are still in finance but investor relations is less about the numbers and more about communication.
There’s also consulting and other areas that can benefit from your background and skills. Another recommendation would be to talk to people who are working in those areas in those fields and conduct informational interviews. After that, I would then be looking at your GMAT Score 😇
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1. Sounds like you have a great job. Working in Big four is quite an achievement and an accomplishment.
2. I have not heard a lot of the reasons why you want to get a masters. Why do you want to quit your job, spend a year in school, borrow money, and then go back to finding another job. If you’re not certain about the job you want, why do you think having a masters in finance will help you get the job? Figuring out what it is that you want to do and what would make you happier, would it be a very valuable move. It’s not easy and you can proceed without completing this step, but the value of having a goal and the plan and executing it with the purpose with significantly Increase your satisfaction. Otherwise you’ll keep doubting if this is the right move if you’re not sure that you want to go where you’re going.
3. In terms of the score and your strengths and weaknesses, I think it’s very fair to say that patterns and number puzzles and things like that than not your natural interest. I don’t think it would keep you from a masters program or a finance program. But do you want to spend the year doing math And then for the rest of your life? And maybe that’s fine. Maybe you don’t love it but you don’t hate it either…
4. In terms of the career and the job, it’s helpful to identify with your good at naturally. That will make you more likely to be successful in what you do but not necessarily happy. Happiness comes from other elements such as having a strong team, supportive leaders and good people. If you are successful at your job, and you have a great team, you’ll be happy. At the same time, if you are not failing at your job and doing it just OK and you have a great team, you will still probably be happy. As the result, important who you work with rather than what you do.
I would just buy a bunch of personality or career tests. I’ve seen a few floating out there for like 40 or 50 bucks and take them to give you some ideas and help you perhaps stumble on the career path that may be of interest and then you can research a few of those and see what it takes and what kind of Skills they require and how you can get there. For example, maybe you are a part of the investor relations team. You are still in finance but investor relations is less about the numbers and more about communication.
There’s also consulting and other areas that can benefit from your background and skills. Another recommendation would be to talk to people who are working in those areas in those fields and conduct informational interviews. After that, I would then be looking at your GMAT Score 😇
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02 Oct 2023, 10:50
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Hey bb
Thanks for the quick and detailed reply!
1. Thanks, I am getting to learn a lot on my current job comes with its own pros and cons, but I have definitely met a bunch of awesome people through it.
2. I guess family expectations and wanting to move out of my home country quickly(due to personal reasons) were the main factors. But you are absolutely right, I shouldn't rush such a huge decision. I guess I have been doubting it for a while and the GMAT score was just the last straw.
3. I will definitely spend some time researching what could be a good fit for me career-wise. Will reach out to a few people like you said.
4. Who knows, maybe if I re-learn quantitative subjects for fun and without the pressure I might actually fall in love with one of them.
Again, thank you for your response, cheers!
Thanks for the quick and detailed reply!
1. Thanks, I am getting to learn a lot on my current job comes with its own pros and cons, but I have definitely met a bunch of awesome people through it.
2. I guess family expectations and wanting to move out of my home country quickly(due to personal reasons) were the main factors. But you are absolutely right, I shouldn't rush such a huge decision. I guess I have been doubting it for a while and the GMAT score was just the last straw.
3. I will definitely spend some time researching what could be a good fit for me career-wise. Will reach out to a few people like you said.
4. Who knows, maybe if I re-learn quantitative subjects for fun and without the pressure I might actually fall in love with one of them.
Again, thank you for your response, cheers!
