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Official Solution: (1) The product of any three integers in the set is negative. If the set consists of only 3 terms, then the set could be either {negative, negative, negative} or {negative, positive, positive}. If the set consists of more than 3 terms, then the set can only have negative numbers. Not sufficient. (2) The product of the smallest and largest integers in the set is a prime number. Since only positive numbers can be primes, then the smallest and largest integers in the set must be of the same sign. Thus the set consists of only negative or only positive integers. Not sufficient. (1)+(2) Since the second statement rules out {negative, positive, positive} case which we had from (1), then we have that the set must have only negative integers. Sufficient. Answer: C
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Bunuel wrote: Official Solution:
(1) The product of any three integers in the set is negative. If the set consists of only 3 terms, then the set could be either {negative, negative, negative} or {negative, positive, positive}. If the set consists of more than 3 terms, then the set can only have negative numbers. Not sufficient. (2) The product of the smallest and largest integers in the set is a prime number. Since only positive numbers can be primes, then the smallest and largest integers in the set must be of the same sign. Thus the set consists of only negative or only positive integers. Not sufficient. (1)+(2) Since the second statement rules out {negative, positive, positive} case which we had from (1), then we have that the set must have only negative integers. Sufficient.
Answer: C Hello! I didnt get this one. What if the set has 4 values  2 positive and 2 negative. > [2,3,1,5] Now if we pick any 3 values it can be either positive or negative. e.g 2*3*1 = 6 but 5*1*2  10 Can you please explain. Thanks!
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Bunuel wrote: Official Solution:
(1) The product of any three integers in the set is negative. If the set consists of only 3 terms, then the set could be either {negative, negative, negative} or {negative, positive, positive}. If the set consists of more than 3 terms, then the set can only have negative numbers. Not sufficient. (2) The product of the smallest and largest integers in the set is a prime number. Since only positive numbers can be primes, then the smallest and largest integers in the set must be of the same sign. Thus the set consists of only negative or only positive integers. Not sufficient. (1)+(2) Since the second statement rules out {negative, positive, positive} case which we had from (1), then we have that the set must have only negative integers. Sufficient.
Answer: C I didn't get it how is it C ? and the order can be { positive, negative , positive } rite then how is c correct ?



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Hi appu5 { positive, negative , positive } In this case the first condition holds true i.e. product of 3 no's is negative. Now, lets check he 2nd condition. The product of smallest and largest no. is a prime no.Here smallest would be the negative no. and largest would be one of the positive no., that gives us a negative no.(prime no's are always postiive). So, this example does not satisfy the 2nd condition.



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aimtoteach wrote: Bunuel wrote: Official Solution:
(1) The product of any three integers in the set is negative. If the set consists of only 3 terms, then the set could be either {negative, negative, negative} or {negative, positive, positive}. If the set consists of more than 3 terms, then the set can only have negative numbers. Not sufficient. (2) The product of the smallest and largest integers in the set is a prime number. Since only positive numbers can be primes, then the smallest and largest integers in the set must be of the same sign. Thus the set consists of only negative or only positive integers. Not sufficient. (1)+(2) Since the second statement rules out {negative, positive, positive} case which we had from (1), then we have that the set must have only negative integers. Sufficient.
Answer: C Hello! I didnt get this one. What if the set has 4 values  2 positive and 2 negative. > [2,3,1,5] Now if we pick any 3 values it can be either positive or negative. e.g 2*3*1 = 6 but 5*1*2  10 Can you please explain. Thanks! Hi, It seems you are trying to falsify what is already established in the statement. Statement A states that product of ANY three nos. is negative. Hence we take only those sets of nos. where this condition holds true. Statement A states that the product of ANY 3 nos. in the set is negative. This can only be true when all the nos. are negative or one or two nos. are positive based on the size of the set. (if it is a three no. set, then two positive nos., for more than 3 no. sets, 1 positive no.) {simply because if there are 3 positive nos., it will hold the Statement A false}. As nos. can be either positive(one or two) or negative, Hence A is not sufficient. And B states that the product of min and max value is prime. Since only positive nos. can be prime, min and max values should both be either positive or negative. Again B is not sufficient Thus taking A & C together, both min and max can not be positive since A has already established that all the nos. can not be positive (if min and max are both positive this means all the nos., lie between min and max, will also be positive) Thus if min and max are both negative, all the nos. are negative which back the inference we made in A. Hence C is the answer.



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King407 wrote: aimtoteach wrote: Bunuel wrote: Official Solution:
(1) The product of any three integers in the set is negative. If the set consists of only 3 terms, then the set could be either {negative, negative, negative} or {negative, positive, positive}. If the set consists of more than 3 terms, then the set can only have negative numbers. Not sufficient. (2) The product of the smallest and largest integers in the set is a prime number. Since only positive numbers can be primes, then the smallest and largest integers in the set must be of the same sign. Thus the set consists of only negative or only positive integers. Not sufficient. (1)+(2) Since the second statement rules out {negative, positive, positive} case which we had from (1), then we have that the set must have only negative integers. Sufficient.
Answer: C Hello! I didnt get this one. What if the set has 4 values  2 positive and 2 negative. > [2,3,1,5] Now if we pick any 3 values it can be either positive or negative. e.g 2*3*1 = 6 but 5*1*2  10 Can you please explain. Thanks! Hi, It seems you are trying to falsify what is already established in the statement. Statement A states that product of ANY three nos. is negative. Hence we take only those sets of nos. where this condition holds true. Statement A states that the product of ANY 3 nos. in the set is negative. This can only be true when all the nos. are negative or one or two nos. are positive based on the size of the set. (if it is a three no. set, then two positive nos., for more than 3 no. sets, 1 positive no.) {simply because if there are 3 positive nos., it will hold the Statement A false}. As nos. can be either positive(one or two) or negative, Hence A is not sufficient. And B states that the product of min and max value is prime. Since only positive nos. can be prime, min and max values should both be either positive or negative. Again B is not sufficient Thus taking A & C together, both min and max can not be positive since A has already established that all the nos. can not be positive (if min and max are both positive this means all the nos., lie between min and max, will also be positive) Thus if min and max are both negative, all the nos. are negative which back the inference we made in A. Hence C is the answer. Thanks! Got it now
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I think this is a poorquality question and I don't agree with the explanation. Set (1,2,3 ) and (1,2,3) can satisfy both conditions



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harshada1 wrote: I think this is a poorquality question and I don't agree with the explanation. Set (1,2,3 ) and (1,2,3) can satisfy both conditions You did not understand the question and the solution. (2) says: the product of the smallest and largest integers in the set is a prime number. The product of the smallest and largest integers of (1, 2, 3) is 2*3 = 6, which is not a prime.
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I think this is a highquality question and the explanation isn't clear enough, please elaborate. Consider the sets {1,2, 5} and {1,2,5}. These sets satisfy both St.1 and 2, and so you cannot definitively answer the question. Ans E for me. Not satisfied with the explanation



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sidney123 wrote: I think this is a highquality question and the explanation isn't clear enough, please elaborate. Consider the sets {1,2, 5} and {1,2,5}. These sets satisfy both St.1 and 2, and so you cannot definitively answer the question. Ans E for me. Not satisfied with the explanation You did not understand the question. (2) says: the product of the smallest and largest integers in the set is a prime number. The product of the smallest and largest integers of {1, 2, 5} is 2*5 = 10, which is NOT prime!
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I think this the explanation isn't clear enough, please elaborate.



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I think this the explanation isn't clear enough, please elaborate. in stat. 2 it doesnt have to mean that all the integers in the set are positive. i can be ve +ve ve or +ve ve +ve (just an example) we cant say that all the int. have to be of the same sign.



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I think this is a highquality question and I agree with explanation.



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I think this is a highquality question and I agree with explanation.



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I think this is a poorquality question and I don't agree with the explanation. I got the answer as B. The question is are all the integers in the set negative? S2 suggests the smallest and the largest are positive. So all the numbers are not negative. So S2 is sufficient. What am I missing?



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