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Is \(x \lt y\) ?



(1) \(x^3 \lt y^3\). Note that we can always take an odd root from both sides of an inequality (the same for raising both parts of an inequality to an odd power). Now, if we take 3rd root from \(x^3 \lt y^3\) we'll get \(x \lt y\). Sufficient.

(2) \((x+y)(x-y) \lt 0\). This statement tells that \(x^2-y^2 \lt 0\) or \(x^2 \lt y^2\), which is not sufficient to answer whether \(x \lt y\), consider \(x=1\) and \(y=2\) for an YES answer and \(x=1\) and \(y=-2\) for a NO answer.


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I think this is a high-quality question and I agree with explanation.
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Bunuel wrote:
Official Solution:


(1) \(x^3 \lt y^3\). Note that we can always take an odd root from both sides of an inequality (the same for raising both parts of an inequality to an odd power). Now, if we take 3rd root from \(x^3 \lt y^3\) we'll get \(x \lt y\). Sufficient.

(2) \((x+y)(x-y) \lt 0\). This statement tells that \(x^2-y^2 \lt 0\) or \(x^2 \lt y^2\), which is not sufficient to answer whether \(x \lt y\), consider \(x=1\) and \(y=2\) for an YES answer and \(x=1\) and \(y=-2\) for a NO answer.


Answer: A


Hi, why can we not consider that either (x+y)<0 or (x-y)<0? If we do this then we get X<-Y and X<Y. Thx
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New post 08 Jun 2017, 10:03
Hi,

Say x = -1/2 and y = -1/3 then this solution of your don't work.

In such case x to the power of 3 is greater than y to the power of 3, but x < y is false.
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Bunuel wrote:
Official Solution:


(1) \(x^3 \lt y^3\). Note that we can always take an odd root from both sides of an inequality (the same for raising both parts of an inequality to an odd power). Now, if we take 3rd root from \(x^3 \lt y^3\) we'll get \(x \lt y\). Sufficient.

(2) \((x+y)(x-y) \lt 0\). This statement tells that \(x^2-y^2 \lt 0\) or \(x^2 \lt y^2\), which is not sufficient to answer whether \(x \lt y\), consider \(x=1\) and \(y=2\) for an YES answer and \(x=1\) and \(y=-2\) for a NO answer.


Answer: A


Hi Bunuel,

For 2, why can't I write -y<x<y ? Is it because we don't really know the sign of y?

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sliceoflife wrote:
Bunuel wrote:
Official Solution:


(1) \(x^3 \lt y^3\). Note that we can always take an odd root from both sides of an inequality (the same for raising both parts of an inequality to an odd power). Now, if we take 3rd root from \(x^3 \lt y^3\) we'll get \(x \lt y\). Sufficient.

(2) \((x+y)(x-y) \lt 0\). This statement tells that \(x^2-y^2 \lt 0\) or \(x^2 \lt y^2\), which is not sufficient to answer whether \(x \lt y\), consider \(x=1\) and \(y=2\) for an YES answer and \(x=1\) and \(y=-2\) for a NO answer.


Answer: A


Hi Bunuel,

For 2, why can't I write -y<x<y ? Is it because we don't really know the sign of y?

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\(x^2 \lt y^2\) means that |x| < |y|, so y is further from 0 than x is. We can have the following cases:


-----------0---x---y---
-------x---0-------y---
---y---x---0-----------
---y-------0---x------


As you can see, for the first two cases x < y and for the remaining two cases x > y.
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+1 for A.
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New post 05 Dec 2017, 21:34
Hi brunel,
Cannt we take x=1 and y=1 in that case statement 1 fails??

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Cannt we take x=1 and y=1 in that case statement 1 fails??

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It's Bunuel, not brunel.

When testing numbers for DS, we should choose so that these numbers satisfy the statement we are examining. Does x = y = 1 satisfy x^3 < y^3?

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New post 10 Mar 2018, 16:25
another way to think of it is that statement 2 tells us that the absolute value of x is more than the absolute value of y. This means that x could be more or less than y, so (II) is insufficient. We don't need to test any cases for (II)

Good question but too easy to be a Q50/51 question. More like Q45-48. Would classify as medium
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Bunuel wrote:
sliceoflife wrote:
Bunuel wrote:
Official Solution:


(1) \(x^3 \lt y^3\). Note that we can always take an odd root from both sides of an inequality (the same for raising both parts of an inequality to an odd power). Now, if we take 3rd root from \(x^3 \lt y^3\) we'll get \(x \lt y\). Sufficient.

(2) \((x+y)(x-y) \lt 0\). This statement tells that \(x^2-y^2 \lt 0\) or \(x^2 \lt y^2\), which is not sufficient to answer whether \(x \lt y\), consider \(x=1\) and \(y=2\) for an YES answer and \(x=1\) and \(y=-2\) for a NO answer.


Answer: A


Hi Bunuel,

For 2, why can't I write -y<x<y ? Is it because we don't really know the sign of y?

Regards


\(x^2 \lt y^2\) means that |x| < |y|, so y is further from 0 than x is. We can have the following cases:


-----------0---x---y---
-------x---0-------y---
---y---x---0-----------
---y-------0---x------


As you can see, for the first two cases x < y and for the remaining two cases x > y.


Hi Bunuel, chetan2u,

Bunuel: I read your explanation but still have one doubt. x^2 - y^2 < 0 is quadratic and we do use the wavy line method to solve quadratic. With great difficulty I understood and use the wavy line method for many quadratic inequality questions, so now, why can't this quadratic expression be solved using wavy line method ? Just to explain, wavy line method was explained on gmatclub posts itself. Basically, in that method, we factorize this expression to get zero points such as -y and y and choose that range where the value is negative ( since x^2 - y^2 < 0) which in this case indeed works out to be -y < x < y. so how is it not correct? OR is there way forward to get the ans using this wavy line method?

Thanks a lot.
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