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Hi Bunuel,

I keep making mistakes on exponent manipulation. It just doesn't immediately jump out to me that x^6 + y^9 = 0 can be manipulated into something that solves the problem. Do you happen to have a list of questions that test similar concepts that I can practice with? I tried using the "find similar topics" function but many of the problems don't involve the skills I'm having trouble with.
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For statement two, can you explain how you got from step 1 to step 2 and to step 3?
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For statement two, can you explain how you got from step 1 to step 2 and to step 3?

\(x^6+y^9=0\);

Re-arrange: \(x^6=-y^9\);

\((x^2)^3=(-y^3)^3;\) (since (x^2)^3=x^6 and (-y^3)^3=-y^9);

Take the third root: \(x^2=-y^3\);

Re-arrange again: \(x^2+y^3=0\).

Hope it's clear.
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For statement two, can you explain how you got from step 1 to step 2 and to step 3?

\(x^6+y^9=0\);

Re-arrange: \(x^6=-y^9\);

\((x^2)^3=(-y^3)^3;\) (since (x^2)^3=x^6 and (-y^3)^3=-y^9);

Take the third root: \(x^2=-y^3\);

Re-arrange again: \(x^2+y^3=0\).

Hope it's clear.


Sorry if I was unclear Bunuel but I meant

\(27^(x^2) = 3/(3^(((3y)^2)+1))\)

but thank you for the breakout of the first.
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For statement two, can you explain how you got from step 1 to step 2 and to step 3?

\(x^6+y^9=0\);

Re-arrange: \(x^6=-y^9\);

\((x^2)^3=(-y^3)^3;\) (since (x^2)^3=x^6 and (-y^3)^3=-y^9);

Take the third root: \(x^2=-y^3\);

Re-arrange again: \(x^2+y^3=0\).

Hope it's clear.


Sorry if I was unclear Bunuel but I meant

\(27^(x^2) = 3/(3^(((3y)^2)+1))\)

but thank you for the breakout of the first.

Notice that \(3^{(3y^2+1)}=3^{(3y^2)}*3^1\)

\(27^{x^2}=\frac{3}{3^{3y^2+1}}\).

\(3^{3x^2}=\frac{3}{3^{3y^2}*3}\);

Reduce the right hand side by 3: \(3^{3x^2}=\frac{1}{3^{3y^2}}\);

Cross-multiply: \(3^{3x^2}*3^{3y^2}=1\);

\(3^{3x^2+3y^2}=1\);
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Hi Bunuel,

A small doubt :

I had marked B because I felt A is insufficient :

x6 + y9 = 0

which means (x2)3 + (y3)3 = 0 (like you did)

Now using a3 + b3 = (a + b)*(a2 - ab + b2)

So either a + b = 0, or a2 - ab + b2 = 0, i.e. either x2 + y3 = 0 or x4 - x2y3 + y6 = 0

Therefore A is insufficient

Can you please tell me where I'm going wrong regarding statement 1?

Thanks!
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Hi Bunuel,

A small doubt :

I had marked B because I felt A is insufficient :

x6 + y9 = 0

which means (x2)3 + (y3)3 = 0 (like you did)

Now using a3 + b3 = (a + b)*(a2 - ab + b2)

So either a + b = 0, or a2 - ab + b2 = 0, i.e. either x2 + y3 = 0 or x4 - x2y3 + y6 = 0

Therefore A is insufficient

Can you please tell me where I'm going wrong regarding statement 1?

Thanks!


The point is that only real roots of x^4 - x^2y^3 + y^6 = 0 is x = y = 0, for which x^2 + y^3 = 0.
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Hi Bunuel,

Thanks! That solves my doubt

However, is there any shortcut to directly come to that conclusion? Or did you actually solve the equation to get the roots x = 0 and y = 0?

I mean is there any shortcut to ignore the x^4 - (x^2)(y^3) + y^6, and directly come to the conclusion that x^6 + y^9 = 0?

Thanks in advance
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Hi Bunuel,

Thanks! That solves my doubt

However, is there any shortcut to directly come to that conclusion? Or did you actually solve the equation to get the roots x = 0 and y = 0?

I mean is there any shortcut to ignore the x^4 - (x^2)(y^3) + y^6, and directly come to the conclusion that x^6 + y^9 = 0?

Thanks in advance

Direct way is given in the solution:

(1) \(x^6+y^9=0\).

\((x^2)^3=(-y^3)^3;\)

\(x^2=-y^3\);

\(x^2+y^3=0\). Sufficient.

You took another path which gave you more complex equation.
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does gmat only test real number other than complex number?
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does gmat only test real number other than complex number?

Yes, all numbers on the GMAT are by default real numbers.
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Good question
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Hell of a question, Bunuel. Thanks for posting.
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I think this is a high-quality question and I agree with explanation.
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I have edited the question and the solution by adding more details to enhance its clarity. I hope it is now easier to understand.
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I think this is a high-quality question and I don't agree with the explanation. The explanation doesnt hold true in first case if y is positive hence cant be concluded.
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I think this is a high-quality question and I don't agree with the explanation. The explanation doesnt hold true in first case if y is positive hence cant be concluded.

You are wrong! Can you please come up with any positive value of y for which \(x^6+y^9=0\) is true!
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