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Manhattan SC: Usage of will and would

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The usual sequences are EITHER Present + Future OR Past +
Conditional.
Right: The scientist BELIEVES that the machine WILL BE wonderful.
Present Future
Right: The scientist BELIEVED that the machine WOULD BE wonderful.
Past Conditional
Wrong: The scientist BELIEVES that the machine WOULD BE wonderful.
Present Conditional
Wrong: The scientist BELIEVED that the machine WILL BE wonderful.
Past Future

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Doubt:
1. Noting that the price of oil and other fuel components, a major factor in the cost structure of an airline,
have risen and will continue to rise, the company management was pessimistic about their outlook for the
upcoming quarter.
• have risen and will continue to rise, the company management was pessimistic about their
• have risen and will continue to rise, the company management was pessimistic about the
• will continue to rise, the company management was pessimistic about the
• has risen and will continue to rise, the company management was pessimistic about their
• will continue to rise, the company management was pessimistic about their
Now in above question what I can see is that the correct answer is C, but the entire statement is addressed in past tense so usage of 'would' is justified in this case if we go by Manhattan SC .
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You're correct. "Would" is okay in this sentence. I'm not certain whether 'will' is also okay.

I suspect that 'will' is good, though, because you can read the sentence as if it's reporting what the management originally said. When the management made their claim, the words they would have used were "The price will continue to rise!". That's because they were talking about the future. In this sentence, we could say that we're just repeating the management's claim directly, using the same verb.

For instance, this seems fine to me (although again, I'm not 100% certain whether it's GMAT accurate):

'In his award-winning article, the scientist wrote that machines will one day take over the Earth.'

That seems okay, because the scientist would have used the word 'will' in his article, because he was talking about the future. If that's right, it would mean that 'will' is okay as long as we're describing something that a person said. In your 'scientist believed' example, 'will' would be wrong, because the scientist didn't say or write anything.

I'd be interested to hear other opinions on this, though.
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ccooley wrote:
You're correct. "Would" is okay in this sentence. I'm not certain whether 'will' is also okay.

I suspect that 'will' is good, though, because you can read the sentence as if it's reporting what the management originally said. When the management made their claim, the words they would have used were "The price will continue to rise!". That's because they were talking about the future. In this sentence, we could say that we're just repeating the management's claim directly, using the same verb.

For instance, this seems fine to me (although again, I'm not 100% certain whether it's GMAT accurate):

'In his award-winning article, the scientist wrote that machines will one day take over the Earth.'

That seems okay, because the scientist would have used the word 'will' in his article, because he was talking about the future. If that's right, it would mean that 'will' is okay as long as we're describing something that a person said. In your 'scientist believed' example, 'will' would be wrong, because the scientist didn't say or write anything.

I'd be interested to hear other opinions on this, though.


Excellent point of view, I had been confused about contradictory usage of would and will in certain guide books, this has definitely given some clarity.
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"the company management was pessimistic about their" - why isn't "company management" treated as a collective noun? Should the sentence be written as - "the company management was pessimistic about ITS outlook for the coming quarter"?

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shubhajit wrote:
"the company management was pessimistic about their" - why isn't "company management" treated as a collective noun? Should the sentence be written as - "the company management was pessimistic about ITS outlook for the coming quarter"?

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You're entirely correct about that. 'Management' is a singular noun, so referring to it with 'they' or 'their' is incorrect. Note that in the correct answer to the original problem (which is (C)), the sentence doesn't use a pronoun at all - it says 'the outlook' instead of 'their' outlook.

If you were doing this problem on a test, you could eliminate anything that used 'their'. :)
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