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m1033512 solution attached

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Archit3110 wrote:
we can solve by drawing a venn diagram

IMO E ; all three are correct.


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Of three persons, two take relish, two take pepper, and two take salt. The one who takes no salt takes no pepper, and the one who takes no pepper takes no relish. Which of the following statements must be true?

I. The person who takes no salt also takes no relish.
II. Any of the three persons who takes pepper also takes relish and salt.
II. The person who takes no relish is not one of those who takes salt.

A. I only
B. II only
C. III only
D. I and II only
E. I, II, and III


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Hi Archit,

Could you draw( i mean in your notebook and take picture) the Ven diagram of this and post here .
I am struggling to understand this .


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we can solve by drawing a venn diagram

IMO E ; all three are correct.


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Of three persons, two take relish, two take pepper, and two take salt. The one who takes no salt takes no pepper, and the one who takes no pepper takes no relish. Which of the following statements must be true?

I. The person who takes no salt also takes no relish.
II. Any of the three persons who takes pepper also takes relish and salt.
II. The person who takes no relish is not one of those who takes salt.

A. I only
B. II only
C. III only
D. I and II only
E. I, II, and III


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Archit3110 wrote:
we can solve by drawing a venn diagram

IMO E ; all three are correct.


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Of three persons, two take relish, two take pepper, and two take salt. The one who takes no salt takes no pepper, and the one who takes no pepper takes no relish. Which of the following statements must be true?

I. The person who takes no salt also takes no relish.
II. Any of the three persons who takes pepper also takes relish and salt.
II. The person who takes no relish is not one of those who takes salt.

A. I only
B. II only
C. III only
D. I and II only
E. I, II, and III


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Hi Archit,

Could you draw( i mean in your notebook and take picture) the Ven diagram of this and post here .
I am struggling to understand this .
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When one who takes no salt takes no pepper, we can imagine fig A (pepper within salt). We just don't know whether pepper circle falls exactly over salt circle or whether pepper circle is inside salt circle.
Similarly, for pepper and relish.Since the question says - Of three persons, two take relish, two take pepper, and two take salt . All three circles must fall on each other exactly (fig B) with 2 people inside these three circles and 1 person outside all three circles. I, II, III are deducible from this.
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Bunuel wrote:
Of three persons, two take relish, two take pepper, and two take salt. The one who takes no salt takes no pepper, and the one who takes no pepper takes no relish. Which of the following statements must be true?

I. The person who takes no salt also takes no relish.
II. Any of the three persons who takes pepper also takes relish and salt.
II. The person who takes no relish is not one of those who takes salt.

A. I only
B. II only
C. III only
D. I and II only
E. I, II, and III


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Let’s say the 3 people are A, B and C and let’s say A takes no salt and pepper. Then B and C must take pepper and they also take salt. Furthermore, since the one who takes no pepper takes no relish, that person must be A since both B and C take pepper. In other words, A takes no condiments and B and C each take all 3 condiments. Therefore, all three statements are true.

Answer: E
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This is written in a tricky way to make us assume that there has to be different people taking each one (at least that was my initial supposition) but the following sentence make this impossible: "The one who takes no salt takes no pepper, and the one who takes no pepper takes no relish."

If you draw a table you can see the relationship more clearly:



The only way to have 2 in each group and have the total add up to 6 is if 2 people take every condiment and the other takes none, i.e. the 3rd person is in the "neither" group in overlapping set formula.
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Bunuel wrote:
Of three persons, two take relish, two take pepper, and two take salt. The one who takes no salt takes no pepper, and the one who takes no pepper takes no relish. Which of the following statements must be true?

I. The person who takes no salt also takes no relish.
II. Any of the three persons who takes pepper also takes relish and salt.
II. The person who takes no relish is not one of those who takes salt.

A. I only
B. II only
C. III only
D. I and II only
E. I, II, and III


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R = Person taking relish
P = Person taking pepper
S = Person taking salt

IMO E
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I usually solve questions with overlapping sets with a double matrix method.
Is there a equivalent to use (or a guide) when I have more then 2 options?
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I usually solve questions with overlapping sets with a double matrix method.
Is there a equivalent to use (or a guide) when I have more then 2 options?


Yes, you can draw a diagram. If you scroll up you can see some people drawing a diagram with 3 overlapping sets.
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Of three persons, two take relish, two take pepper, and two take salt. The one who takes no salt takes no pepper, and the one who takes no pepper takes no relish. Which of the following statements must be true?

I. The person who takes no salt also takes no relish.
II. Any of the three persons who takes pepper also takes relish and salt.
II. The person who takes no relish is not one of those who takes salt.

A. I only
B. II only
C. III only
D. I and II only
E. I, II, and III


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Please check the video explanation of the problem.

A good question to practice

Answer: Option E

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Of three persons, two take relish, two take pepper, and two take salt. The one who takes no salt takes no pepper, and the one who takes no pepper takes no relish.

#1. No salt => No pepper
#2. No pepper => No relish

Thus it is obvious that:
No salt => No pepper => No relish

But there are 2 (of the 3) who take salt, 2 take pepper and 2 take relish ... (i)

Thus, 1 person doesn't take salt, 1 doesn't take pepper and 1 doesn't take relish ... (ii)

But, no salt implies no pepper and that implies no relish

Thus, (ii) above refers to the same person who doesn't take any of the three things.

Conclusion:
# One person doesn't take any of the three add-ons (salt, pepper, relish)
# Two people take all three add-ons (salt, pepper, relish)

Let's look at the statements:

I. The person who takes no salt also takes no relish - TRUE - he is the same person who takes no add-ons

II. Any of the three persons who takes pepper also takes relish and salt - TRUE - he is one of the 2 people who take all three add-ons

III. The person who takes no relish is not one of those who takes salt - TRUE - he is the one who takes no add-ons


Answer E

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Of three persons, two take relish, two take pepper, and two take salt. The one who takes no salt takes no pepper, and the one who takes no pepper takes no relish. Which of the following statements must be true?

I. The person who takes no salt also takes no relish.
II. Any of the three persons who takes pepper also takes relish and salt.
II. The person who takes no relish is not one of those who takes salt.

A. I only
B. II only
C. III only
D. I and II only
E. I, II, and III


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3 people
6 instances (2 salt, 2 pepper, 2 relish)

The one who takes no salt takes no pepper, and the one who takes no pepper takes no relish. - So say X takes no salt. Then X takes no pepper too. Then X takes no relish too!
This means the other 2 people take all three things.

I. The person who takes no salt also takes no relish.
True. This person is X.

II. Any of the three persons who takes pepper also takes relish and salt.
True. These are the other two people.

II. The person who takes no relish is not one of those who takes salt.
X (one how takes no relish) is not one who takes salt. Correct. X does not take salt.

Answer (E)
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Of three persons, two take relish, two take pepper, and two take salt. The one who takes no salt takes no pepper, and the one who takes no pepper takes no relish. Which of the following statements must be true?

I. The person who takes no salt also takes no relish.
II. Any of the three persons who takes pepper also takes relish and salt.
II. The person who takes no relish is not one of those who takes salt.

A. I only
B. II only
C. III only
D. I and II only
E. I, II, and III


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfuPXCC ... ZWYJ9-3dPe
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Just a small note Bunuel, the statements are improperly numbered.
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Just a small note Bunuel, the statements are improperly numbered.


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Let three persons X, Y and Z

Now let X and Z are taking salt, Y is not taking salt so he is also not taking pepper.
Again Y is not pepper concludes he is not taking relish.

S______P______R
X______X______X
Z______Z______Z

Statement I: The person who takes no salt takes no relish which is Y, thus true.
Statement II: Any of three persons who takes pepper takes salt and relish, individually X and Z, thus true.
Statement III: The person who is taking no relish is not the one who is taking salt which is again Y, thus true.

Thus all of the statements are true.

IMO ans is E.
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