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31 Jul 2020, 13:47
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Hello all,
The present perfect tense confuses me because of its uses. I understand the usage where it’s talking about some thing that’s continue into the present.
Since 1988, I have eaten breakfast.
This action continues into the present - fine. However the other usage that expresses some thing that happened in the past and ended in the past but the effects continue to the present confuses me.
1) Donald Trump has won the presidential election
2) Obama has won the presidential election
The first sentence is perfectly fine because even though he is no longer running and winning elections and it ended in the past, the effect of the winning the election still lasts. In the second sentence it’s incorrect because Obama is no longer president. This makes sense but here is where it becomes subjective:
1) Jack studied at HBS
2) Jack has studied at HBS
First sentence would indicate that Jack has either graduated or left HBS. The second one is trickier for me. Does it mean that either he’s a student at HBS into the present or that he has graduated and the effect of studying at HBS helps him in his daily job. Are both constructions grammatically correct?
Here’s one question with a similar issue:
sloth, found in Puerto Rico in 1991, have Fossils of the arm of a sloth found in Puerto Rico in 1991, and dated at 34 million years old, made it the earliest known mammal of the Greater Antilles islands.
The correct sentence reads:
sloth, found in Puerto Rico in 1991, have been dated at 34 million years old, making the sloth the earliest known mammal on
I get that “have been dated” doesn’t mean the act of being dated continues to the present and that it instead ended in the past but the effects of dating it caused this fact to be discovered that continues to the present. But is there a way to construct this in th simple past and still make logical sense? Is there a way to say “was dated”
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The present perfect tense confuses me because of its uses. I understand the usage where it’s talking about some thing that’s continue into the present.
Since 1988, I have eaten breakfast.
This action continues into the present - fine. However the other usage that expresses some thing that happened in the past and ended in the past but the effects continue to the present confuses me.
1) Donald Trump has won the presidential election
2) Obama has won the presidential election
The first sentence is perfectly fine because even though he is no longer running and winning elections and it ended in the past, the effect of the winning the election still lasts. In the second sentence it’s incorrect because Obama is no longer president. This makes sense but here is where it becomes subjective:
1) Jack studied at HBS
2) Jack has studied at HBS
First sentence would indicate that Jack has either graduated or left HBS. The second one is trickier for me. Does it mean that either he’s a student at HBS into the present or that he has graduated and the effect of studying at HBS helps him in his daily job. Are both constructions grammatically correct?
Here’s one question with a similar issue:
sloth, found in Puerto Rico in 1991, have Fossils of the arm of a sloth found in Puerto Rico in 1991, and dated at 34 million years old, made it the earliest known mammal of the Greater Antilles islands.
The correct sentence reads:
sloth, found in Puerto Rico in 1991, have been dated at 34 million years old, making the sloth the earliest known mammal on
I get that “have been dated” doesn’t mean the act of being dated continues to the present and that it instead ended in the past but the effects of dating it caused this fact to be discovered that continues to the present. But is there a way to construct this in th simple past and still make logical sense? Is there a way to say “was dated”
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01 Aug 2020, 20:48
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Past perfect usage that expresses some thing that happened in the past and ended in the past but the effects continue to the present confuses me.
1) Donald Trump has won the presidential election
2) Obama has won the presidential election
The first sentence is perfectly fine because even though he is no longer running and winning elections and it ended in the past, the effect of the winning the election still lasts. In the second sentence it???s incorrect because Obama is no longer president. This makes sense but here is where it becomes subjective:
1) Jack studied at HBS
2) Jack has studied at HBS
First sentence would indicate that Jack has either graduated or left HBS. The second one is trickier for me. Does it mean that either he???s a student at HBS into the present or that he has graduated and the effect of studying at HBS helps him in his daily job. Are both constructions grammatically correct?
1) Donald Trump has won the presidential election
2) Obama has won the presidential election
The first sentence is perfectly fine because even though he is no longer running and winning elections and it ended in the past, the effect of the winning the election still lasts. In the second sentence it???s incorrect because Obama is no longer president. This makes sense but here is where it becomes subjective:
1) Jack studied at HBS
2) Jack has studied at HBS
First sentence would indicate that Jack has either graduated or left HBS. The second one is trickier for me. Does it mean that either he???s a student at HBS into the present or that he has graduated and the effect of studying at HBS helps him in his daily job. Are both constructions grammatically correct?
05 Aug 2020, 00:44
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Hi! You can watch our video on Past Perfect and also our video on Present Perfect.
Hopefully it will clarify many/most of your doubts.
Hopefully it will clarify many/most of your doubts.
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