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Hi Akash,

From what you describe, there are some serious inconsistencies with how you went about taking your CATs. The GMAT is a rather specific 'event', so you CAN train for it. However, the more your practice deviates from the specific situation that you'll face on Test Day, the more your score results can vary. Skipping sections, taking the CATs at home and taking them at different times of day are all choices that you made that were unrealistic - so you weren't properly training for Test Day (and all of that helps to explain why your Verbal Score dropped on the Official GMAT). Taking that last CAT the day before your Official GMAT also likely caused some 'burn out' (since taking a CAT involves a great deal of effort) right before you took the GMAT.

Thankfully, all of these issues can be 'fixed', assuming that you choose to retest. On that issue, I have a few follow-up questions:

1) What Schools do you plan to apply to?
2) When do you plan to apply?

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My 2 cents is that you can improve your quant fairly quickly by studying but the verbal is much harder to improve upon. I scored well on the verbal both times and essentially didn't study at all except to get used to the format of the question. Also in the OG, particularly with the sentence correction, I never understood any of the explanations for the questions I got wrong. Anyways, improving on the verbal takes time.

I also find it interesting how everyone on here is analyzing the level of the question at a certain point in the exam and they remember questions etc. My focus was always to get all the questions right within the allotted amount of time regardless of the level of the question. I never bothered analyzing those things because that would take away my brain power from answering the questions. I could see doing that if I was a genius and could afford to do so, but I'm not.
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The purpose of this debrief is not just to seek expert help as to what to do next but also to make people aware about how GMAT tricked me and denied me my dream score.
I can understand what you must be going through, but you have to get out of the "the GMAT is at fault" stage as soon as possible. And not just if you want to retake the GMAT.

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3 out of the first 5 questions were sentence correction questions and all the 3 questions were based on Idioms!!!
It could be that you were just extremely unlucky, but it's possible that you need to go through your SC concepts again. I've seen too many students focus on idioms and walk away from official questions thinking that they need to work even harder on idiomatic usage when even a quick look at the questions they got wrong shows that most of those questions were not, in fact, testing idiomatic usage. I'm not saying you're wrong, but you'd have to be extremely good at GMAT verbal to identify (under exam pressure and under timed conditions) exactly which concepts are being tested in a question.

That said, a drop from 41 to 26 on verbal is huge. If I were you, I'd just take the exam again. What do you think? Was that 41 representative (were the questions "new" or had you already seen them before)?
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Hi Akash,

From what you describe, there are some serious inconsistencies with how you went about taking your CATs. The GMAT is a rather specific 'event', so you CAN train for it. However, the more your practice deviates from the specific situation that you'll face on Test Day, the more your score results can vary. Skipping sections, taking the CATs at home and taking them at different times of day are all choices that you made that were unrealistic - so you weren't properly training for Test Day (and all of that helps to explain why your Verbal Score dropped on the Official GMAT). Taking that last CAT the day before your Official GMAT also likely caused some 'burn out' (since taking a CAT involves a great deal of effort) right before you took the GMAT.

Thankfully, all of these issues can be 'fixed', assuming that you choose to retest. On that issue, I have a few follow-up questions:

1) What Schools do you plan to apply to?
2) When do you plan to apply?

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Thank you for writing Rich. Perhaps these are the reasons that explain my score drop in verbal.

1) The schools that I am aiming for are Tepper, Goizueta, Kelley, McCombs, and Mays.
2) I was planning to apply for Round 2 of these schools, but I am unsure about applying now because of the score. Also, I read somewhere that most of the schools look at both quant and verbal scores individually. If this is true, then this could further reduce my chances of getting into my target schools.

What do you think?

Thank you for all the support Rich
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My 2 cents is that you can improve your quant fairly quickly by studying but the verbal is much harder to improve upon. I scored well on the verbal both times and essentially didn't study at all except to get used to the format of the question. Also in the OG, particularly with the sentence correction, I never understood any of the explanations for the questions I got wrong. Anyways, improving on the verbal takes time.

I also find it interesting how everyone on here is analyzing the level of the question at a certain point in the exam and they remember questions etc. My focus was always to get all the questions right within the allotted amount of time regardless of the level of the question. I never bothered analyzing those things because that would take away my brain power from answering the questions. I could see doing that if I was a genius and could afford to do so, but I'm not.


You're right. Maybe I should have concentrated more on getting those questions right, rather than freaking out by judging the kind and level of the questions. Just that not having definitive answers to the first few sentence correction questions (apparently my strong point) made me think about these questions. Further, the added pressure of the importance of the first 10 questions made me all the more vulnerable at that time.
Also, the thing is I was always weak at verbal. I trained hard for it, developing a sense of the questions that come up. That being said, I am still one of the traditional non-native students. Verbal is just not our forte. Preparing rigorously can give us some kind of confidence in verbal, but if something that we are not prepared for comes up during the 'all important test', some of us will not know how to handle the situation. And unfortunately, on the test day, I was sailing in the same boat. I freaked out.
I should have controlled my emotions better. I should have perhaps reassessed those questions and looked for errors. As you said, I should have concentrated more on solving those questions.

Thanks for your input! Definitely gives me something to learn.

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The purpose of this debrief is not just to seek expert help as to what to do next but also to make people aware about how GMAT tricked me and denied me my dream score.
I can understand what you must be going through, but you have to get out of the "the GMAT is at fault" stage as soon as possible. And not just if you want to retake the GMAT.

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3 out of the first 5 questions were sentence correction questions and all the 3 questions were based on Idioms!!!
It could be that you were just extremely unlucky, but it's possible that you need to go through your SC concepts again. I've seen too many students focus on idioms and walk away from official questions thinking that they need to work even harder on idiomatic usage when even a quick look at the questions they got wrong shows that most of those questions were not, in fact, testing idiomatic usage. I'm not saying you're wrong, but you'd have to be extremely good at GMAT verbal to identify (under exam pressure and under timed conditions) exactly which concepts are being tested in a question.

That said, a drop from 41 to 26 on verbal is huge. If I were you, I'd just take the exam again. What do you think? Was that 41 representative (were the questions "new" or had you already seen them before)?

Hey,

Thank you so much for writing!

While I understand the point you're trying to make and I really appreciate it, I just want to clarify that when I said "how GMAT tricked me and denied me my dream score", I didn't mean to blame the GMAT for my score. Instead, my intention was to let others know that identifying patterns of the official questions need not help always. With that, the underlying concepts (even if not tested frequently or solely) have to be crystal clear. To illustrate, I hadn't concentrated on the idioms much during my preparation because I was under the impression that they wouldn't be tested solely and even if they do, there are very few idioms to remember.

Well, you're right! Maybe, under time constraints, I panicked more than I should have and maybe I skipped few other errors in the sentences. But as far as I remember, there wasn't really other obvious error. However, what you said is certainly a possibility and I take some learning out of it. Thank you! :)

It is huge, isn't it? And that's why I was so disappointed. So, the questions were definitely new. I had taken the exam pack and the 4th test was one from the exam pack. I wasn't really expecting a 41 again, but maybe 35 or around.
Thank you for your view on retaking. Makes sense to retake it. However, I don't know how to restart everything, honestly. The thing is I have exhausted all my official resources. Anything on how to prepare this time?

Thanks again
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1) The schools that I am aiming for are Tepper, Goizueta, Kelley, McCombs, and Mays.
2) I was planning to apply for Round 2 of these schools, but I am unsure about applying now because of the score. Also, I read somewhere that most of the schools look at both quant and verbal scores individually. If this is true, then this could further reduce my chances of getting into my target schools.

What do you think?

Thank you for all the support Rich
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HI Akash,

Since you know which Schools you're interested in, you would likely find it beneficial to speak with an Admissions Expert about your overall profile. There's a Forum full of them here:

ask-admission-consultants-124/

You'll likely be at the 'lower end' of the acceptable GMAT Score range of each of those Schools, but if you have a strong OVERALL profile, then you could still receive an invite.

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Hi Akashkalra,
I was in a similar situation. I could not improve my verbal two times even though on my 1'st attempt I had higher score on V than afterwards and I had to give GMAT 4 times. I would definitely suggest you (1) to practice a lot and (2) do not study much or better anything 1 day before the test day, be relaxed. I took my 4'th attempt after ~2 weeks from the 3'rd one, and I did not have what to study, since I covered almost all the materials that I had and I managed to improve my V score by +9 points. For RC I was solving from 101 LSAT RC passages file, for CR there is a compilation of questions from GMAT prep and for SC, I just repeated over and over SC rules from e-GMAT, you can also go through the file that contains a compilation of GMAT of SC questions. Sometimes you simply luck and rest to score more! If you have any issues, feel free to PM me. I was in a similar situation and I was looking for help, and the guy that posted over here, Rich, told me that it is impossible for me to improve my score to 700+ in 2 weeks, but I did so!
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Hi Akashkalra,

If you'd like to read the exact exchange that I had with the prior poster, then you can do so at the following link (and I never told him that it was impossible to improve his score). He seems to have 'erased' his side of the conversation though, so I suggest that you take his advice with whatever amount of skepticism you deem appropriate.

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I actually erased all my replies from that conversation, because I found the conversation useless, as I did his comments. ;) Suggestion to Rich, Never try to predict one's score! He told me that I cannot get 700+ "if I am not willing to spend some extra money", that's his comment!
P.s: I wanted to delete the whole forum page but I couldn't!
P.s.1: In case it is needed I can provide my scores and to show that everything I say is true. Rich, dude, stop your freak willingness to make money on others' unhapiness and bad luck!
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It is huge, isn't it? And that's why I was so disappointed. So, the questions were definitely new. I had taken the exam pack and the 4th test was one from the exam pack. I wasn't really expecting a 41 again, but maybe 35 or around.
Thank you for your view on retaking. Makes sense to retake it. However, I don't know how to restart everything, honestly. The thing is I have exhausted all my official resources. Anything on how to prepare this time?
I meant what I said: maybe you just need to take it again. A lot of people here seem to believe that the GMATPreps are easy. It is not easy to get a V41 on a GMATPrep. You would obviously want your scores to be more consistent, but there is no way that you "lucked" your way to a 41 on verbal (V41=94%) if those questions were new and done under timed conditions.
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