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Big fan of gmatclub, love the great advice and whole host of strategies and tactics on these pages.

I am actually a recently graduated student looking to apply for an MSc Finance at a top british university (oxford, LSE, warwick, etc) and, given that my undergraduate degree was not highly quantitative, have been advised to take the gmat and so prove my quantitative ability (need Q49, 85%). I have been preparing for close to 3 months, intending to sit it just after christmas and have been taken 3 manhattan tests and 1 gmatprep test.

the manhattan tests, particularly the quant section, were remarkably tough in comparison to the more official OG and gmatprep practice questions (never got above Q46). ive noticed many share this particular view. if true, what is the best way to use the manhattan CATs?

as for the gmatprep test, i achieved 710 (Q48, V40). The quant section was slightly easier, although i got 7 of the first 30 incorrect and 6 of the final 7 (lack of time). dont know how i scored in the 92nd percentile, given that my quant and verbal scores were in the 78th and 90th percentiles respectively.
these forums seem to be quite divided on the predictive ability of the gmatprep tests, particularly earlier posts from around 4-5 years ago where many saw them as too easy in comparison to the actual gmat itself. any advice on this much appreciated.

i practice questions mostly from the online versions of the OG (2017) and find, even the 300+ 'difficult' questions, to generally be a touch easier in comparison to the gmatprep and manhattan quant questions. anybody else feel this way?

in general, on the gmat, is it more damaging (statistically speaking) to answer 3+ questions incorrectly in the first 10 or to answer multiple wrong in a row later on?

any all help much appreciated.
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takasar12 wrote:
Big fan of gmatclub, love the great advice and whole host of strategies and tactics on these pages.

I am actually a recently graduated student looking to apply for an MSc Finance at a top british university (oxford, LSE, warwick, etc) and, given that my undergraduate degree was not highly quantitative, have been advised to take the gmat and so prove my quantitative ability (need Q49, 85%). I have been preparing for close to 3 months, intending to sit it just after christmas and have been taken 3 manhattan tests and 1 gmatprep test.

the manhattan tests, particularly the quant section, were remarkably tough in comparison to the more official OG and gmatprep practice questions (never got above Q46). ive noticed many share this particular view. if true, what is the best way to use the manhattan CATs?

as for the gmatprep test, i achieved 710 (Q48, V40). The quant section was slightly easier, although i got 7 of the first 30 incorrect and 6 of the final 7 (lack of time). dont know how i scored in the 92nd percentile, given that my quant and verbal scores were in the 78th and 90th percentiles respectively.
these forums seem to be quite divided on the predictive ability of the gmatprep tests, particularly earlier posts from around 4-5 years ago where many saw them as too easy in comparison to the actual gmat itself. any advice on this much appreciated.

i practice questions mostly from the online versions of the OG (2017) and find, even the 300+ 'difficult' questions, to generally be a touch easier in comparison to the gmatprep and manhattan quant questions. anybody else feel this way?

in general, on the gmat, is it more damaging (statistically speaking) to answer 3+ questions incorrectly in the first 10 or to answer multiple wrong in a row later on?

any all help much appreciated.
Non-official tests should not be used for (precise) scoring. As for the GMATPreps and your scores, the GMATPrep tests are very accurate. They don't, however, simulate test day pressure. Scores: Q48 is currently 69%, which could be a problem if your school wants strong evidence that your quantitative skills are up to the mark. Also, Q49 is currently 75%, not 85% (Q50 is 86%). Check with your schools directly and ask them whether they have a particular scaled score in mind. You could also check with the consultants here.

As for your question on how to spread your mistakes out, you will not be able to get an accurate answer. Treat all questions as equally important and ensure that you finish the test (don't leave any questions).
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takasar12 wrote:
Big fan of gmatclub, love the great advice and whole host of strategies and tactics on these pages.

I am actually a recently graduated student looking to apply for an MSc Finance at a top british university (oxford, LSE, warwick, etc) and, given that my undergraduate degree was not highly quantitative, have been advised to take the gmat and so prove my quantitative ability (need Q49, 85%). I have been preparing for close to 3 months, intending to sit it just after christmas and have been taken 3 manhattan tests and 1 gmatprep test.

the manhattan tests, particularly the quant section, were remarkably tough in comparison to the more official OG and gmatprep practice questions (never got above Q46). ive noticed many share this particular view. if true, what is the best way to use the manhattan CATs?

as for the gmatprep test, i achieved 710 (Q48, V40). The quant section was slightly easier, although i got 7 of the first 30 incorrect and 6 of the final 7 (lack of time). dont know how i scored in the 92nd percentile, given that my quant and verbal scores were in the 78th and 90th percentiles respectively.
these forums seem to be quite divided on the predictive ability of the gmatprep tests, particularly earlier posts from around 4-5 years ago where many saw them as too easy in comparison to the actual gmat itself. any advice on this much appreciated.

i practice questions mostly from the online versions of the OG (2017) and find, even the 300+ 'difficult' questions, to generally be a touch easier in comparison to the gmatprep and manhattan quant questions. anybody else feel this way?

in general, on the gmat, is it more damaging (statistically speaking) to answer 3+ questions incorrectly in the first 10 or to answer multiple wrong in a row later on?

any all help much appreciated.
Non-official tests should not be used for (precise) scoring. As for the GMATPreps and your scores, the GMATPrep tests are very accurate. They don't, however, simulate test day pressure. Scores: Q48 is currently 69%, which could be a problem if your school wants strong evidence that your quantitative skills are up to the mark. Also, Q49 is currently 75%, not 85% (Q50 is 86%). Check with your schools directly and ask them whether they have a particular scaled score in mind. You could also check with the consultants.

As for your question on how to spread your mistakes out, you will not be able to get an accurate answer. Treat all questions as equally important and ensure that you finish the test (don't leave any questions).


thanks for the feedback. with regards to scaled scores, the gmatprep results breakdown, itself, said that q48 was 78%. is the software out-of-date?
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takasar12 wrote:
thanks for the feedback. with regards to scaled scores, the gmatprep results breakdown, itself, said that q48 was 78%. is the software out-of-date?
It is, but that's not as big an issue as it might appear to be. The GMATPreps are built to generate scaled scores (like the 6-51 and 200-800 scores). They're still doing that job well. The percentile calculation, however, is done on the basis of data from the last 3 years on how common each scaled score was. That table changes every year.

It is that table that is not updated in GMATPrep, so the percentile check has to be done manually for the current percentiles. If you want, you can check the latest percentiles here.
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takasar12 wrote:
thanks for the feedback. with regards to scaled scores, the gmatprep results breakdown, itself, said that q48 was 78%. is the software out-of-date?
It is, but that's not as big an issue as it might appear to be. The GMATPreps are built to generate scaled scores (like the 6-51 and 200-800 scores). They're still doing that job well. The percentile calculation, however, is done on the basis of data from the last 3 years on how common each scaled score was. That table changes every year.

It is that table that is not updated in GMATPrep, so the percentile check has to be done manually for the current percentiles. If you want, you can check the latest percentiles here.


Ah, ok. Makes sense. Just to clarify, the score is likely accurate but the percentile is lower than what it would have been 2/3 years ago?
Wow...I'd heard of competition pushing up the grades but just didnt anticipate this level of change/improvement.

Thanks for clearing that up
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