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GMATNinja, gmat1393, GMATNinjaTwo, nightblade354, iamsiddharthkapoor

Hello experts - Could you let me know if my logic for eliminating A is accurate

Argument from Sharon -- Not a big deal ...Unemployment is normally at 5 % so if someone knows 20 people -- they will at-least know someone who is unemployed. No big surprise !

Negated A :

-- Normal levels of unemployment are frequently exceeded

Implication :

-- If unemployment levels are normally high : this actually supports Sharon argument even more ..i.e. people will always know someone who is unemployed

The negated A -- rather than breaking the argument is actually strengthening the argument

Is my negation thought process accurate for A specifically ?


Frequently is not the negation of rarely. These are words that are just meant to throw you off. Rare = some. The negation of some = none. This should help clear things up.

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Roland: The alarming fact is that 90 percent of the people in this country now report that they know someone who is unemployed.

Sharon: But a normal, moderate level of unemployment is 5 percent, with 1 out of 20 workers unemployed. So at any given time if a person knows approximately 50 workers, 1 or more will very likely be unemployed.

Sharon's argument relies on the assumption that


(A) normal levels of unemployment are rarely exceeded

(B) unemployment is not normally concentrated in geographically isolated segments of the population

(C) the number of people who each know someone who is unemployed is always higher than 90% of the population

(D) Roland is not consciously distorting the statistics he presents

(E) knowledge that a personal acquaintance is unemployed generates more fear of losing one's job than does knowledge of unemployment statistics

Given:
R-90% PPL Now rpt that they know someone unemployed--Alarming fact according to him
S-Normal level of unemployment is 5%. If a person know 50 PPL then amongst these ppl atleast 1 person will likely to be Unemployed

Prethinking:

=> S 's argument started with 'But' it means she is trying to say that she do not agree with R. Or by providing some facts she is trying to say that the fact that R has presented may not be 'Alarming'.
=> If Sample is 100 , 5 PPL are unemployed => A person can know 50 ppl from 95 employed PPL, or from a combination of employed and unemployed ppl. Clearly S is assuming that the sample of 50 PPL is comprising of both employed and unemployed ppl and they are distributed evenly in the country.

A) Incorrect- Negation: Normal Level of unemployment never exceeded.
Rarely= Sometimes==> Negation: Never (Some->None)
If normal level is not exceeding then this fact is irrelavent and more or less strengthening the Sharon's argument.

B) Correct: Matches with the prethinking.

Negation: Unemployment is normally concentrated in geographically isolated segments of the population.
If unemployment is concentrated in geographically isolated segments of the population then the fact that sharon has presented is doubtful.
If the sample that sharon has selected is from geographically isolated area then a person may know many people who are unemployed. Similarly if the sample is from the other section of the population then it's possible that a person knows no one who is unemployed.Therefore, negation of the statement is breaking down the sharon's argument.

c) Incorrect- Negation: The number of people who each know someone who is unemployed is not always higher than 90% of the population.
=> Atleast sometime it's not higher than 90%.
Sharon's argument is not about 90% of the population, it was roland who cited this fact. Sharon is simply providing facts stating that the unemployment rate is normal.Hence irrelevant.

d) Incorrect-
Negation: If Roland is consciously distorting the statistics that he presents then the fact that he has cited about the 'alarming level of unemployment' may not be true. Which is what Sharon is trying to say. So negation statement is supporting Sharon's argument and not undermining it. Moreover Sharon's argument is independent of Roland's argument. Hence incorrect.

e) Incorrect- Sharon's argument is not about fear of losing job. so out of context.
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can any of the experts explain option c in detail ?

GMATNinja GMATNinjaTwo nightblade354

even though Mr gmatninja has explained the question really well and a lot of good explanations about why B is correct are here in this discussion, I can't seem to wrap my head around option C. I know that it is not the correct option, but i am not able to articulate the option in my mind. So please any of the experts, Please help

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We’re looking for an assumption underlying Sharon’s argument, meaning we need find the answer choice that MUST be true in order for Sharon’s conclusion to be properly drawn. With that in mind, I’m going to borrow heavily from the reasoning in our previous post that you mentioned, but take another look at (C):

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(C) the number of people who each know someone who is unemployed is always higher than 90% of the population
So, does it HAVE to be true that more than 90% of the population ALWAYS knows someone who is unemployed in order to conclude that it’s not alarming that 90% of the people in this country know someone who is unemployed? No. It’s possible that SOMETIMES only 89% or less of the population knows some who is unemployed, but 90% or more is NORMAL and thus not alarming. Therefore, we can still properly draw Sharon’s conclusion, and (C) is not a required assumption.

I hope that helps!
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Can anyone help with C option, what does it even mean?
always higher than 90% of population was an argument by roland. Sharon is countering that it is normal. I am still not able to get how it is affecting the argument and reasoning.

Can you guys please help?
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Can anyone help with C option, what does it even mean?
always higher than 90% of population was an argument by roland. Sharon is countering that it is normal. I am still not able to get how it is affecting the argument and reasoning.

Can you guys please help?
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Hello, penco. I think GMATNinja has done a fine job with his treatment of (C) specifically just a few posts above, here. To keep things simple, I will stick to breaking down the language of the answer choice itself, irrespective of the question.

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(C) the number of people who each know someone who is unemployed is always higher than 90% of the population
The easiest way I can think to explain what (C) is saying is by using numbers. Say we have 50 people (the number of people from the answer). Each of these 50 people must always have a greater than 90% chance of knowing someone who is unemployed. We could swap out 50 for 100 people or 1 million people, but the phrasing would remain the same. Each individual would still have a greater than 90% chance of knowing someone who was jobless. Now you can ask yourself, is that the assumption at work, given what Sharon says in the passage? (It seems farfetched to me.)

I hope that answers your question. Thank you for thinking to ask.

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Roland: The alarming fact is that 90 percent of the people in this country now report that they know someone who is unemployed.

Sharon: But a normal, moderate level of unemployment is 5 percent, with 1 out of 20 workers unemployed. So at any given time if a person knows approximately 50 workers, 1 or more will very likely be unemployed.

Sharon's argument relies on the assumption that


(A) normal levels of unemployment are rarely exceeded

(B) unemployment is not normally concentrated in geographically isolated segments of the population

(C) the number of people who each know someone who is unemployed is always higher than 90% of the population

(D) Roland is not consciously distorting the statistics he presents

(E) knowledge that a personal acquaintance is unemployed generates more fear of losing one's job than does knowledge of unemployment statistics


Show SpoilerEXPLANATION
Argument Construction

Situation
Roland is alarmed that 90 percent of the population knows someone who is out of work. Sharon replies that a normal level of unemployment is 5 percent, illustrating her point by saying that if a person knows 50 workers, at least one of them is likely to be unemployed.

Reasoning
What assumption does Sharon make in putting together her argument? Sharon makes a general statement claiming that if a person knows 50 workers, it is likely that at least one of them is unemployed. Sharon’s generalization would not likely be true if unemployment were concentrated in certain geographically isolated areas.

(A) Sharon’s argument is about a normal level of unemployment; how rarely or frequently that level is exceeded is outside the scope of her argument.

(B) Correct. This statement properly identifies an assumption that underlies Sharon’s argument.

(C) Although Sharon’s argument is compatible with saying that even more than 90 percent of the population knows someone who is unemployed, nothing suggests that she assumes that this is true.

(D) Sharon’s argument is not based on the figure Roland cites and does not assume its accuracy or inaccuracy; her argument merely points out that his figure is not inconsistent with a normal rate
of unemployment.

(E) The fear of losing a job is not part of Sharon’s argument; this statement is irrelevant.

The correct answer is B.

"Roland" Conclusion Question
­Roland says the situation is alarming - 90% people know someone who is unemployed. So unemployment must be very high.

Sharon says 90% people would know someone who is unemployed even if unemployment is normal (5%). 1 out of 20 people would be unemployed and if each person knows 50 people, each person would know at least one unemployed person. So she is telling Roland that based on the data you have given, we cannot say that unemployment must be very high.


(A) normal levels of unemployment are rarely exceeded

Whether normal levels of unemployment are rarely exceeded or some times exceeded or exceeded many times doesn't matter. What she is saying is that the same stats would be applicable even if unemployment were normal. 

(B) unemployment is not normally concentrated in geographically isolated segments of the population

Correct. Her assumption is that unemployed people live in communities, connected to others. What if unemployed people live isolated lives and know only 2-3 people? In that case 90% people knowing someone unemployed could indicate a high level of unemployment. Hence this is an assumption - unemployment is not concentrated in isolated segments.

(C) the number of people who each know someone who is unemployed is always higher than 90% of the population

She is not assuming that always more than 90% people know someone who is unemployed. She says that if the rate were 5% and if each person knew 50 other people, then almost everyone is likely to know someone who is  unemployed. By her logic if unemployment rate goes to 1% (very low), then only half the population would know someone who is unemployed. So she is not assuming that always more than 90% people know someone unemployed. 

(D) Roland is not consciously distorting the statistics he presents

Sharon's logic is not based on the truth of Roland's logic. Sharon's logic is independent. It tells us what happens in a normal situation. Whether currently 90% people in the country do know someone unemployed or not is irrelevant. 

(E) knowledge that a personal acquaintance is unemployed generates more fear of losing one's job than does knowledge of unemployment statistics

Irrelevant.

Answer (B)

Assumptions: https://youtu.be/O0ROJfljRLU

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