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jajaja123
Current Student
Joined: 23 Oct 2021
Last visit: 11 Jan 2022
Posts: 2
Given Kudos: 2
Location: China
Schools: Darden '24 Haas '24 Ross '24 (A$) Kellogg '24 (D)
GMAT 1: 740 Q50 V40
GPA: 3.76
06 Jan 2022, 02:13
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This is a tough decision! The two schools are quite similar in a lot of ways and I want to get as much information as possible from different perspectives before making a decision. Thank you in advance.
About me:
international student with 4 years WE before school starts. Right now I'm a PMM at a tech company
Goals:
- relocate to the US (preferably NYC)
- transition to corporate strategy at tech companies (preferably FANNG)
Thoughts on the two schools:
- I think they're similar in
1. ranking & reputation
2. location (obviously not the same location but as in they're both not in big cities but close)
3. community (both tight knit and helpful and collaborative, the community aspect is very important to me. Don't want to deal with too many preppy, cut-throat people and hope to make some real friends from the MBA experience)
- Differences (that matter to me)
Darden
1. good weather (especially when comparing to Michigan.. makes Charlottesville so desirable) +++
2. case method (some people love it some people hate it, it doesn't really make a difference for me)
Ross
1. Arguably stronger in tech recruiting. So many people going to amazon every year
2. weather (sure i can tough it up but i'm just afraid that the cold is gonna prevent me from socializing and going to events) --
3. big sports school (i'm really really not interested in sports, especially football. More of a music & art person. I guess this could be a "getting out of your comfort zone" experience tho) --
Again, I feel like the differences are so minor. Maybe the only important difference is that Ross's tech recruiting is stronger. Want to see whether this perception is correct or if there's any other aspects that I'm missing. Thanks in advance!
About me:
international student with 4 years WE before school starts. Right now I'm a PMM at a tech company
Goals:
- relocate to the US (preferably NYC)
- transition to corporate strategy at tech companies (preferably FANNG)
Thoughts on the two schools:
- I think they're similar in
1. ranking & reputation
2. location (obviously not the same location but as in they're both not in big cities but close)
3. community (both tight knit and helpful and collaborative, the community aspect is very important to me. Don't want to deal with too many preppy, cut-throat people and hope to make some real friends from the MBA experience)
- Differences (that matter to me)
Darden
1. good weather (especially when comparing to Michigan.. makes Charlottesville so desirable) +++
2. case method (some people love it some people hate it, it doesn't really make a difference for me)
Ross
1. Arguably stronger in tech recruiting. So many people going to amazon every year
2. weather (sure i can tough it up but i'm just afraid that the cold is gonna prevent me from socializing and going to events) --
3. big sports school (i'm really really not interested in sports, especially football. More of a music & art person. I guess this could be a "getting out of your comfort zone" experience tho) --
Again, I feel like the differences are so minor. Maybe the only important difference is that Ross's tech recruiting is stronger. Want to see whether this perception is correct or if there's any other aspects that I'm missing. Thanks in advance!
09 Jan 2022, 10:14
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Congratulations on your admits. I will agree with you that Darden and Ross are fairly similar….
I would also mention that since they are fairly similar, they will have fairly similar student bodies, And basically most business school programs would have a very diverse and in a sense similar set of students. If you go to the admit weekend at one program and you only meet nice people and then a week later you go to the admit weekend at another program and you only meet jerks, it does not mean that one program recruits jerks and another recruits nicest people in the world. You just got exposed to different subsets of students. so if you do get some exposure to some of the students, keep in mind that it’s going to be very surfacey until you really get to know people.
In terms of differences, very basic one comes to mind, which is the case method at Darden. Some people like it, some people hate it and some don’t care. There are good things about it and there are bad things about it. It is a meaningful difference and a decision point since 65 or 70% of classes at Darden do use the case method. You do not want to be miserable if that is not your cup of tea but asked to me, I think it’s a nice challenge. I was not good at these and it takes some learning but it gets very rewarding when you can crack one.
Anecdotally, I do think Ross does better with tech and placement in California as well as Seattle. Sometimes it is hard to measure tech jobs and attribute them properly. For example, a lot of the Amazon jobs are procurement-based which I’m not really sexy and people usually try to get out of them as fast as they can. Similarly, there is a variety of levels or shades of PM jobs.
Using a rudimentary and a very crude measuring tool, I basically check how many graduates from each program end up on the West Coast. Most people go to the West Coast for tech related jobs. Obviously this doesn’t work for Andersen, Berkeley, and Stanford but it does for the rest of the programs. So using this very crude tool it looks like about 20% of the Ross class goes to the West Coast and only about 10% from Darden and up there. At the same time, a larger portion of graduates from Darden ends up on the East Coast. A sizable portion ends up being in Maryland and Virginia, naturally….
Depending on your preference, and what is more important to you, being on the East Coast or being in tech, I would choose Darden if I was going for East Coast and New York and Ross for tech in general. Assuming you have no preference about the case method.
PS. Not sure if it’s sways you in anyway, but Darran will have the lowest cost of living of any business school, any top 20 business school.
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I would also mention that since they are fairly similar, they will have fairly similar student bodies, And basically most business school programs would have a very diverse and in a sense similar set of students. If you go to the admit weekend at one program and you only meet nice people and then a week later you go to the admit weekend at another program and you only meet jerks, it does not mean that one program recruits jerks and another recruits nicest people in the world. You just got exposed to different subsets of students. so if you do get some exposure to some of the students, keep in mind that it’s going to be very surfacey until you really get to know people.
In terms of differences, very basic one comes to mind, which is the case method at Darden. Some people like it, some people hate it and some don’t care. There are good things about it and there are bad things about it. It is a meaningful difference and a decision point since 65 or 70% of classes at Darden do use the case method. You do not want to be miserable if that is not your cup of tea but asked to me, I think it’s a nice challenge. I was not good at these and it takes some learning but it gets very rewarding when you can crack one.
Anecdotally, I do think Ross does better with tech and placement in California as well as Seattle. Sometimes it is hard to measure tech jobs and attribute them properly. For example, a lot of the Amazon jobs are procurement-based which I’m not really sexy and people usually try to get out of them as fast as they can. Similarly, there is a variety of levels or shades of PM jobs.
Using a rudimentary and a very crude measuring tool, I basically check how many graduates from each program end up on the West Coast. Most people go to the West Coast for tech related jobs. Obviously this doesn’t work for Andersen, Berkeley, and Stanford but it does for the rest of the programs. So using this very crude tool it looks like about 20% of the Ross class goes to the West Coast and only about 10% from Darden and up there. At the same time, a larger portion of graduates from Darden ends up on the East Coast. A sizable portion ends up being in Maryland and Virginia, naturally….
Depending on your preference, and what is more important to you, being on the East Coast or being in tech, I would choose Darden if I was going for East Coast and New York and Ross for tech in general. Assuming you have no preference about the case method.
PS. Not sure if it’s sways you in anyway, but Darran will have the lowest cost of living of any business school, any top 20 business school.
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jajaja123
Current Student
Joined: 23 Oct 2021
Last visit: 11 Jan 2022
Posts: 2
Given Kudos: 2
Location: China
Schools: Darden '24 Haas '24 Ross '24 (A$) Kellogg '24 (D)
GMAT 1: 740 Q50 V40
GPA: 3.76
10 Jan 2022, 06:57
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Thank you so much for the detailed response
