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# SC- Frenchwoman

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29 Mar 2009, 04:56
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Hi,

I am finding difficulty in analysing this SC. Please provide the analysis for your selection.

If one of the choice were following: persuading Charles VII of france to claim is throne. What would you choose in this case?

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29 Mar 2009, 05:35
C and E is wrong since usage of "persuading that" is wrong - it should be past tense or there should be no "that" - and it should be "persuading Charles VII of france to claim is throne."
B is wrong since the use of "in claiming the throne"

The second part of the sentence, after "and", should be in conjunction with the first part.

So D should be correct, since "she" is not required, which is why A is not correct.

Coming back your question, whether "persuading Charles VII of france to claim is throne." would be chosen if it was one of the choices - well take a look at my first sentence explanation.

Where is the source of the question by the way? And what is the OA? This is open for discussion.
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29 Mar 2009, 07:31
I think C is correct. Persuading is needed here so as to make it parallel with liberating, so only 2 options C & E can be correct. E is eliminated because persuading that the throne be claimed sounds better than persuading that Charles VII of France claim the throne.

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29 Mar 2009, 16:10
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There are two issues at play: Parallelism within a list and Modifiers

The intent of the sentence is to illustrate a list of things that Joan of Arc did.

Joan of Arc...
turned the tide of English victories... and
persuaded Charles to claim his throne.

Because the 1st item in the list is "turned", the last item must be "persuaded" but cannot be "pursuading"

The reason I can tell that the list is not
liberating the city and
is that there is no answer that gives us a good grammatical structure for this list.

(C) would say "Joan turned the tide by liberating the city and persuading that the throne be claimed by Charles"
There is one problem: "persuading" should be followed by Charles ie. "persuading Charles to claim his throne."

(E) would say "Joan turned the tide by liberating the city and persuading that Charles should claim the throne"
This is no better than C. To be acceptable, it should say "persuading Charles to claim his throne."

Once we remove all answers that use "persuading", we are left with A, B and D.

(A) simplifies to "Joan...turned the tide of English victories...and she persuaded Charles to claim his throne"

A is grammatically fine, but "she" is redundant so stylistically A is not the best choice.

(B) simplifies to "Joan...turned the tide of English victories...and persuaded Charles...in claiming his throne"

B commits a modifier error. "perusade X to do Y" is correct. "persuade X in doing Y" is incorrect.

(D) simplifies to "Joan...turned the tide of English victories...and persuaded Charles to claim his throne". Perfect!
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29 Mar 2009, 19:17
D

B and D give correct parallelism, in B in claiming is not correct.
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29 Mar 2009, 22:29
This was very illustrative discussion, and I got the answer of my discussion.

Source OG, OA -D

Thanks a Ton.
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29 Mar 2009, 22:47
Gr8 explanation Rygaar,

I was a bit biased for B because of parallelism.
Thanx
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01 Apr 2009, 19:07
asthanap wrote:
Hi,

I am finding difficulty in analysing this SC. Please provide the analysis for your selection.

If one of the choice were following: persuading Charles VII of france to claim is throne. What would you choose in this case?

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1)Parallism - "turned" and "persuaded" - so either B or D.
2) In claiming - unidiomatic (B) while "to claim" is idiomatic.
Re: SC- Frenchwoman   [#permalink] 01 Apr 2009, 19:07
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