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Shaggy has to learn the same 71 hiragana characters, and also has one week to do so; unlike Velma, he can learn as many per day as he wants. However, Shaggy has decided to obey the advice of a study-skills professional, who has advised him that the number of characters he learns on any one day should be within 4 off the number he learns on any other day.

(A) What is the least number of hiragana that Shaggy could have to learn on Saturday?

(B) What is the greatest number of hiragana that Shaggy could have to learn on Saturday?
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Originally posted by abhi47 on 01 Feb 2012, 20:12.
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Shaggy has to learn the same 71 hiragana characters, and also has one week to do so; unlike Velma, he can learn as many per day as he wants. However, Shaggy has decided to obey the advice of a study-skills professional, who has advised him that the number of characters he learns on any one day should be within 4 off the number he learns on any other day.

(A) What is the least number of hiragana that Shaggy could have to learn on Saturday?

(B) What is the greatest number of hiragana that Shaggy could have to learn on Saturday?


Could someone please provide a simpler solution to this problem ? The actual solution provided is bit confusing.


I must admit the wording is pretty awkward. Anyway:

As "the number of characters he learns on any one day should be within 4 off the number he learns on any other day", then the number of characters he learns on any day must be between \(x\) and \(x+4\) characters .

A. To minimize # of characters per day he should learn \(x\) (so min possible) characters on one day and \(x+4\) (so max possible) characters on all other 6 days, so we would have: \(x+6(x+4)=71\) --> \(x_{min}=\frac{47}{7}=6.something\), as \(x\) must be an integer than round up to 7 (it can not be less than 7 as 6.something is minimum);

B. To maximize # of characters per day he should learn \(x\) (min possible) characters on 6 days and \(x\) characters on all other 6 days, so we would have: \(6x+(x+4)=71\) --> \(x_{max}=\frac{67}{7}=9.something\), as \(x\) must be an integer than round down to 9 (it can not be more than 9 as 9.something is maximum), so max value for \(x+4\) is 9+4=13.

Answer: 7 and 13.

General rule for such kind of problems:
to maximize one quantity, minimize the others;
to minimize one quantity, maximize the others.

Similar question to practice: a-certain-city-with-population-of-132-000-is-to-be-divided-76217.html

Hope it helps.
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Hi Bunuel, Engr2012 et al.,

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Hi Bunuel,

My apologies, it clearly is NOT a DS question - I must have been doing too many things at once when I first read through it.

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Hi Bunuel

Shouldn't the answers be 8 and 15. Pls explain because the formula [x+6(x+4)=71] will not give the answer

The first day he can learn between 0-4 characters

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Bunuel wrote:
abhi47 wrote:
Shaggy has to learn the same 71 hiragana characters, and also has one week to do so; unlike Velma, he can learn as many per day as he wants. However, Shaggy has decided to obey the advice of a study-skills professional, who has advised him that the number of characters he learns on any one day should be within 4 off the number he learns on any other day.

(A) What is the least number of hiragana that Shaggy could have to learn on Saturday?

(B) What is the greatest number of hiragana that Shaggy could have to learn on Saturday?


Could someone please provide a simpler solution to this problem ? The actual solution provided is bit confusing.


I must admit the wording is pretty awkward. Anyway:

As "the number of characters he learns on any one day should be within 4 off the number he learns on any other day", then the number of characters he learns on any day must be between \(x\) and \(x+4\) characters .

A. To minimize # of characters per day he should learn \(x\) (so min possible) characters on one day and \(x+4\) (so max possible) characters on all other 6 days, so we would have: \(x+6(x+4)=71\) --> \(x_{min}=\frac{47}{7}=6.something\), as \(x\) must be an integer than round up to 7 (it can not be less than 7 as 6.something is minimum);

B. To maximize # of characters per day he should learn \(x\) (min possible) characters on 6 days and \(x\) characters on all other 6 days, so we would have: \(6x+(x+4)=71\) --> \(x_{max}=\frac{67}{7}=9.something\), as \(x\) must be an integer than round down to 9 (it can not be more than 9 as 9.something is maximum), so max value for \(x+4\) is 9+4=13.

Answer: 7 and 13.

General rule for such kind of problems:
to maximize one quantity, minimize the others;
to minimize one quantity, maximize the others.

Similar question to practice: http://gmatclub.com/forum/a-certain-cit ... 76217.html

Hope it helps.


hi man

your solution to the DS is brilliant as usual...

let me understand, however, one thing properly

6.somethiing has been rounded up to 7, citing the reason that it is minimum, and 9.something has been rounded down to 9, citing the reason that it is maximum.

I am sure, you didn't mean conventional rules of rounding up or down, there must have something else

please help me understand the concept, please

thanks in advance, man
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