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# Should I Retake GMAT Thread - Retaking GMAT Strategies

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01 Aug 2011, 21:27
Hi BB,
I am not sure if with a score of 600 I can apply to any of the good colleges(Even though .My expectations were somewhere between 650 and 700.I think 600 is not even near to the cut-off of any of the colleges I had targeted for and even the best of the applications can not balance such a poor score.what say?

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02 Aug 2011, 07:43
abhishek1234 wrote:
Hi Experts,
I wrote my gmat exam two days before and ended up getting a 600 (48 Q, 25 v).I am still shattered because of getting such a low score.I have given around 30 mocks ,but never got less than 610 ( except for the Kaplan 2nd test ,in which I scored a 590).In fact ,before starting the preparation,only once I got a 610 in the diagnostic test.After that I put in a lot of effort continuously for two months, studying around six hours a day before taking the test. My Mgmat test scores( 650, 670, 630, 660) and kaplan CD test scores (620,590) were also decent in comparision with the actual score.Two days before taking the test I wrote the GMAT prep test-2 and scored a 740.In addition, I left one verbal questions unmarked during the actual test because of time constrain( I guess leaving a questions unmarked impacts the overall score).I felt that SC questions in the actual test were very strange (if not difficult) than those I had gone through and I did not spend too much time on them as I would have left with very less time for CRs and RCs.So I guess that it was majorly the Sentence correction protion,which I had mainly foused on during preparation, of the test that destroyed the party;though I am not very confident in saying that.
My academics are not very bad with X-80%,XII-80%,BE-72%.I have an overall experience of around 4 years with an MNC in the field of IT and have lot many things to decorate my essay ( white papers, have a BA degree in Music ,have a music band of my own,did some NGO work etc.)
I just want to ask whether I should retake the exam or just give it up.I have already gone through almost all of the important materials such as Manhattan(SC,CR, RC), power score CR bible, 1000 SC,1000 CR(left with a few of them).Now I am only left with the KAPLAN book to study.Please suggest whether I should take the test again or not.

abhishek1234,

Sorry to hear that. After much studying, I think you'll realize that doing well on the GMAT is not about doing thousands of questions. Sure--several hundred is good practice. But if you're still not improving after a thousand--then clearly there's something in your thought process that needs to be changed.

When you say "now I am only left with the Kaplan book"--I get the sense that you're not on the right track. It's not about exhausting all books.

This is a critical reasoning logical fallacy.
You seem to be thinking: "If I go through all books --> then I will ace GMAT"

This is not right! You can go through all books and still not reach your goal. Recognizing this train of thought is also important for doing well on the CR section.

What you need to do is change the way you think.

Once you learn how to think differently--you'll be able to go back to all those thousands of questions and re-attempt those in a timed condition.

Lastly, since you say you did well on the practice tests but not as well on the actual---consider the importance of psychology and timing strategies on the actual exam.

Hope that helps. And remember, we're here to help.
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04 Aug 2011, 19:14
I, like so many others on this thread, am struggling with whether or not I should rewrite the GMAT. I took the exam on August 2, and scored a 680, which was much lower than I was expecting based on my practice exams which typically were between 720-750. I got a 44 on the quant section (lower than expected) and 40 on the verbal (expected). I am still waiting for my AWA report but expect that they should be adequate.

Although I know that this is an above average score I am struggling because I really want to apply to the top tier B-schools in the states, including HBS's 2+2 program, whose average GMAT score is around 720!

That being said, I also have a very high GPA (3.9+), am female (not sure if this gives me a demographic advantage or not), will graduate a double major in mathematics and philosophy from a top undergraduate Canadian university, research experience, paper publications, and a number of undergraduate scholarships and awards.

Also, I understand that you need to have 31 days between rewrites? Or is it just once per month maximum? Because the only possible date in September I can write is the 1st, since I have to return to my studies, and my university is not located near a testing centre. So having written on Aug 2, would I be allowed to even register for an exam on Sept 1?

Any advice? To rewrite or not to rewrite... that is the question!
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04 Aug 2011, 19:45
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Also, I understand that you need to have 31 days between rewrites? Or is it just once per month maximum? Because the only possible date in September I can write is the 1st, since I have to return to my studies, and my university is not located near a testing centre. So having written on Aug 2, would I be allowed to even register for an exam on Sept 1?

Any advice? To rewrite or not to rewrite... that is the question!

Yes, you need to have 31 days, so September 3rd is the earliest day for you to re-take.
The usual decision hinges on the question - can you use the time until September 3rd for a greater good for your application? Can you work on essays and get move value/strength added to the app than you would have if you studied for the GMAT?

Some people retake and get a 50 point bump but some don't (you can see that from the threads). There is no guarantee with or without studying. The key is - do you need that time. If not and you have a $250 sitting around, then by all means. _________________ Founder of GMAT Club US News Rankings progression - last 10 years in a snapshot - New! Just starting out with GMAT? Start here... Need GMAT Book Recommendations? 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And im pretty sure it was because of cr & rc more than sc Im looking to apply to universities ranked 9-16(roughly) on the us mba rankings The rest of my profile is as follows: 1) Electronics engineer from India. 2) Worked at infosys for 8 months. 3) Started my own company after that and will have worked in the company for arnd 1yr 4months by the time I plan on starting b-school Any advice?? Thanks and regards, Ayush Agarwal Last edited by agarwalayush on 06 Aug 2011, 09:31, edited 1 time in total. Founder Affiliations: AS - Gold, HH-Diamond Joined: 04 Dec 2002 Posts: 14546 Location: United States (WA) GMAT 1: 750 Q49 V42 GPA: 3.5 Followers: 3784 Kudos [?]: 23596 [0], given: 4553 Re: Should I Retake GMAT Thread - Retaking GMAT Strategies [#permalink] ### Show Tags 06 Aug 2011, 09:30 agarwalayush wrote: Hi, I was hoping you could help me out with my decision on whether to retake the GMAT. I just it and got an overall 710, quant 50 and verbal 35. In my practice tests I was always around the 740 mark with q48-49 and v42. Verbal totally screwed me up. And im pretty sure it was because of cr & rc more than sc The rest of my profile is as follows: 1) Electronics engineer from India. 2) Worked at infosys for 8 months. 3) Started my own company after that and will have worked in the company for arnd 1yr 4months by the time I plan on starting b-school Any advice?? Thanks and regards, Ayush Agarwal I think you omitted the schools you are trying to apply to. That is one missing piece of info. Also, you may want to get a free consultation from admissions consultants on this as well _________________ Founder of GMAT Club US News Rankings progression - last 10 years in a snapshot - New! Just starting out with GMAT? Start here... Need GMAT Book Recommendations? 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However, you do have an Indian Tech Background, which means you will be competing against a pretty large applicant base with your background. If you have a good story then I would not bother but if your story/applications are not very strong, you may want to consider retaking in a month (at least to put an end to the doubts). As they always say, retaking really depends on you being able to use the time better. Many feel that for the top 20, an increase from 710 to 760 may not be worth it but if you are done with your essays or not planning to spend too much time studying, then it may be worth it. _________________ Founder of GMAT Club US News Rankings progression - last 10 years in a snapshot - New! Just starting out with GMAT? Start here... Need GMAT Book Recommendations? 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06 Aug 2011, 10:42
Thanks a lot for the help. Ill also write to a few of the universities im applying to, to check their views on retaking the gmat.
Also, one last question - Do I have to wait the an entire 31 day period or am I allowed to give the exam as soon as the next calendar month begins??
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06 Aug 2011, 21:12
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07 Aug 2011, 03:36
Hi all, if I write a 4th time, they should only be able to see the last 3 scores, correct? Also, GMAC will inform them that it was my 4th attempt I'm guessing?
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08 Aug 2011, 04:35
Hi all, for those considering multiple attempts, and also those with a disproportionate score (very high verbal very low math or vice versa) wishing to rewrite to balance it out, please view below response from Wharton on their website. Though specific to Wharton, mI'd think most of it applies to general re-takers too:

http://engage.wharton.upenn.edu/MBA/forums/p/3187/9073.aspx#9073

Let me know if you have problems accessing it. I will post the text. Hope its helpful!
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14 Aug 2011, 23:25
Hi all
I'm considering a 4th attempt. I wanted to know which scores get reported by GMAC. On my 4th attempt, if I select some schools at the center (or later), will they get all 4 of my scores, or just the last 3?

In case they get just the last 3, GMAC will inform them that it was my 4th attempt right, and then I might have to explain it later anyway? Can somebody explain this please?
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23 Aug 2011, 07:35
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hi bb

I took my GMAT yesterday, 20 Aug 2011 and got a score of 620 (Q-46, V-29).

I used MGMAT guides and tests & Kaplan premier 2010 (with CD) for my preparation.
During my practice my score were
MGMAT-1 (Jun 1st week) - 600
MGMAT-2 (Jun 2nd week) - 590
MGMAT-3 (Jun last week) - 610
MGMAT-4 (July last week) - 650
MGMAT-5 (Aug 1st week) - 710
MGMAT-6 (19 Aug) - 680 (took it casually)

Kaplan-1 (May Last week) - 630
Kaplan-2 (july 2nd week) - 650
Kaplan-3 (july 3rd week) - 650
Kaplan-4 (Aug 2nd week) - 680

GMAT prep-1 (Jun 2nd week) - 660
GMAT prep-2 (16th Aug) - 640 (Q50, V-27)

my avg score for Quant = 47-48
my avg score for Verbal = 35-36

I have used 1000 series for all five portions (PS,DS,CR,RC & SC)
Used MGMAT SC guide for SC & CR bible for CR

My target institution is ISB(India) and IIMs(India).

Guys after seeing such score I am broken
I know with this score I head for nowhere

Should I retake the test or prepare my application (I presently serve with Army, will this make a strong profile. But I don't that it will be strong enough to compensate for such a low score.)

and if I should prepare then which all material should I refer to and what should my strategy now.

This is a really tough question.
I would also get a second opinion from ThinkAdmit in the Admissions Consulting forum.
I think for ISB you may want to retake since the competition is so fierce. Do get a second opinion though!
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I understand that since my score low low for ISB, I need to retake the exam but now I am puzzled with the thought that which material should I refer to. Can you please help me on that. can you suggest some good study material or course which can me at this stage
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24 Aug 2011, 09:02
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I understand that since my score low low for ISB, I need to retake the exam but now I am puzzled with the thought that which material should I refer to. Can you please help me on that. can you suggest some good study material or course which can me at this stage

Hi, sad news, but I would say: retake it without hesitation. Why? Because as I see you used pretty good materials and in most of cases your GMAT score is lower than that in practice CATs. Seems it was a bad luck.
Does retaking the test hurt you? I think no. So why not to take it again?!
You are aiming for 720+, so go and DESTROY IT! You deserve more!
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I understand that since my score low low for ISB, I need to retake the exam but now I am puzzled with the thought that which material should I refer to. Can you please help me on that. can you suggest some good study material or course which can me at this stage

Regarding the materials. Try Knewton, they guarantee +50 points improvement or money back. It worked for me.
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24 Aug 2011, 09:32
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ravi67741 wrote:
Hi bb

I understand that since my score low low for ISB, I need to retake the exam but now I am puzzled with the thought that which material should I refer to. Can you please help me on that. can you suggest some good study material or course which can me at this stage

Regarding the materials. Try Knewton, they guarantee +50 points improvement or money back. It worked for me.

Thanks Pkit.....there is no harm taking the retest and in fact I have made up my mind to prepare again. Do you find knewton good?....how much does their course cost.....is there any way to get a cheaper deal....
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