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Hi redfield,

The example that you're using emphasizes the 'math work' that you have to do in many Quant questions, so if your math skills are a bit rusty, then you'll certainly want to hone those skills. To score at a high level in the Quant section, you'll need more than just math skills though - the Quant section of the GMAT is based heavily on Tactics, patterns, logic, Number Properties, etc., so those other areas also have to be accounted for.

For free math practice and help, I recommend that you set up an account at Khan Academy (www.khanacademy.org). The site is completely free and makes the learning a bit more fun and 'game-like' (as opposed to the dry academic approach taken by most books). While the site is vast, you should limit your studies to basic Arithmetic, Algebra and Geometry. After spending a little time re-building those skills, you can start your GMAT studies.

1) How have you been scoring on your practice CATs (including the Quant and Verbal Scaled Scores)?
2) What is your goal score?

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Hi redfield,

The example that you're using emphasizes the 'math work' that you have to do in many Quant questions, so if your math skills are a bit rusty, then you'll certainly want to hone those skills. To score at a high level in the Quant section, you'll need more than just math skills though - the Quant section of the GMAT is based heavily on Tactics, patterns, logic, Number Properties, etc., so those other areas also have to be accounted for.

For free math practice and help, I recommend that you set up an account at Khan Academy (https://www.khanacademy.org). The site is completely free and makes the learning a bit more fun and 'game-like' (as opposed to the dry academic approach taken by most books). While the site is vast, you should limit your studies to basic Arithmetic, Algebra and Geometry. After spending a little time re-building those skills, you can start your GMAT studies.

1) How have you been scoring on your practice CATs (including the Quant and Verbal Scaled Scores)?
2) What is your goal score?

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Hi Rich,

I've been scoring around 650 with an even 39/39 split on Verbal and Quant. The verbal I'm naturally good at and imagine I can quickly get into the 42-44 range with a good 15-20hrs of condensed studying/refreshing; it's the quant I so incredibly seem incapable of digesting. My resources are GMAT PIll (more known for verbal) a couple MGMAT books, the OG, GMAT Club tests, and then I occasionally use Khan Academy when I need a refresher on a simple concept like negative exponents.

I have a fairly lofty GMAT goal of 710-740 as my undergrad GPA is bottom 20%-30% for the majority of my target schools and as such I need to be close to the TOP 20-30% for GMAT to try and balance it out. I have a very few obligations at the moment beyond the GMAT so I can devote 4-6hrs on weekdays and 10hours (with breaks of course) over the weekends. My plan is perhaps pick a section like geometry/combinatorics/etc. and devote an entire day maybe 2 with a cat every few days to analyze progress.

My flaw seems to be I know how to do factorials, distance problems, geometry, etc. but when I see a problem I fail in my approach (and also fully grasping the concepts rather than knowing them) and my hope is that in the next 2 weeks (with close to 80hrs of time devoted to studying) I can parlay my basic math understanding into a practical ability in the quant through specified focus days and repetition in practice. and hopefully end up with somewhere in the mid to high 40's (realistically I don't think I have a shot at the 90th percentile in quant).
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Hi redfield,

With your strong Verbal performances, you could score 710+ with a variety of Quant and Verbal 'combinations', so you don't necessarily have to raise your Quant Scaled Score that much higher to achieve your overall score goals. If the Q39 is consistent, then you're likely making little mistakes throughout the Quant section and missing out on a bunch of strategy-based points (in both PS and DS).

On your last CAT, of the questions that you got wrong in the Quant section, how many did you get wrong because...
1) of a silly/little mistake?
2) the question was too hard?
3) you were low on time and had to blindly guess?

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Hi redfield,

With your strong Verbal performances, you could score 710+ with a variety of Quant and Verbal 'combinations', so you don't necessarily have to raise your Quant Scaled Score that much higher to achieve your overall score goals. If the Q39 is consistent, then you're likely making little mistakes throughout the Quant section and missing out on a bunch of strategy-based points (in both PS and DS).

On your last CAT, of the questions that you got wrong in the Quant section, how many did you get wrong because...
1) of a silly/little mistake?
2) the question was too hard?
3) you were low on time and had to blindly guess?

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While I can appreciate the benefit of increasing verbal as well as quant; I also appreciate the concern an upper echelon school may have towards such a low percentile quant score especially from someone with a non-quant heavy background. So while it is very much harder for me to improve on quant than in verbal; it is equally as important that I do so.

on the CAT I'd say

1) of a silly/little mistake?
I missed a couple from simple misread/mistake. However if you consider the subject of this thread as a silly/little mistake (forgetting a single but crucial step in a long list of steps) then that is my primary problem.

2) the question was too hard?
Ever other miss if not attributed to silly mistakes is attributed to this. While it depends what you mean by "hard", again if it's me forgetting a step here and there or struggling to know how to start my approach towards a problem despite knowing necessary formula's and processes then this accounts for a majority

3) you were low on time and had to blindly guess?
None my timing has not been an issue yet (granted I have to guess more often than I'd like and that can speed up the process)


So in summary let's rephrase it to this:

1) silly mistakes
25%
2) Problem too hard/not remembering a step:
75%

I apologize Rich for being so verbose; I'm not particularly skilled in being succinct.
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Hi redfield,

If you've been studying for any appreciable length of time (2-3 months or more), then you're likely gotten 'stuck' at this current scoring level - and it might be difficult to make the necessary adjustments to how you handle the Quant section with just 2 weeks to go before your GMAT. From what you describe, you want to score 710+ AND you want a much higher Quant Scaled Score. You could conceivably accomplish that first goal in the time that you have, but the second will likely take more time than that.

1) Do you have the flexibility to push back your Test Date?
2) What are the exact application deadlines that you're facing?

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Hi redfield,

If you've been studying for any appreciable length of time (2-3 months or more), then you're likely gotten 'stuck' at this current scoring level - and it might be difficult to make the necessary adjustments to how you handle the Quant section with just 2 weeks to go before your GMAT. From what you describe, you want to score 710+ AND you want a much higher Quant Scaled Score. You could conceivably accomplish that first goal in the time that you have, but the second will likely take more time than that.

1) Do you have the flexibility to push back your Test Date?
2) What are the exact application deadlines that you're facing?

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Hi Rich,

I agree I might be stuck it just feels like I'm stuck right on the cusp of "getting it", i.e having my knowledge and understanding of the test actually click more than just going through the motions that being said:

1) Do you have the flexibility to push back your Test Date?
I do and I likely will; I will be unable to study much for a 10day period Jan 6th to Jan 17th but will then again have several weeks to study if necessary. There is a $50 fee to reschedule outside of a week before the test so I will take see how I'm going in 6 or 7 days and if it feels like I'm just banging my head against a wall not making progress and stuck well below my target score I will bite the bullet and reschedule for a month later (rather than spend 250 knowing I won't get the score).
2) What are the exact application deadlines that you're facing?
I am 1 year out of undergrad so plan on applying this time next year so I have months and months, this is more a matter of the GMAT has been in my life for far too long now and distracting me from fully focusing on other things and I need to get this done.
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Hi redfield,

The fact that you planned this far ahead so that you could focus on your GMAT was a smart choice. To that end, you have to continue making smart choices. Rescheduling your Test Date will give you far more time to properly 'fix' the issues that you're facing - and while that might feel a little disappointing, you shouldn't lose sight of the REAL goal - locking up an outstanding GMAT score now so that you can focus on your applications later.

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