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confused b/w D or E :roll:


hmmm
i feel which is refering to "Top speed"

lets give it a try..

i say "D"
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Here is a similar question from SC1000, FYI

177. Bihar is India’s poorest state, with an annual per capita income of $111, lower than in the most impoverished countries of the world.
(A) lower than in
(B) lower than that of
(C) and lower than that of
(D) which is lower than in
(E) which is lower than it is in
The OA is B

Here is what I think"

I think the key is we have "that of" which clearly refers to "annual per capita income".
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Here is a similar question from SC1000, FYI

177. Bihar is India’s poorest state, with an annual per capita income of $111, lower than in the most impoverished countries of the world.
(A) lower than in
(B) lower than that of
(C) and lower than that of
(D) which is lower than in
(E) which is lower than it is in
The OA is B

Here is what I think"

I think the key is we have "that of" which clearly refers to "annual per capita income".


IMO, I think that because "lower than in" refers specifically to $111, "which" is not needed.

However, in the McClaren question, "higher than" seems to modify "hour", instead of "a top speed of over 250 miles per hour"
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Well Celia, the OA is "D".

Now I'm confused with one more SC you gave with its OA :?
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Here is a similar question from SC1000, FYI

177. Bihar is India’s poorest state, with an annual per capita income of $111, lower than in the most impoverished countries of the world.
(A) lower than in
(B) lower than that of
(C) and lower than that of
(D) which is lower than in
(E) which is lower than it is in
The OA is B

Here is what I think"

I think the key is we have "that of" which clearly refers to "annual per capita income".

IMO, I think that because "lower than in" refers specifically to $111, "which" is not needed.

However, in the McClaren question, "higher than" seems to modify "hour", instead of "a top speed of over 250 miles per hour"


TeHCM,

"lower than" should refer to "annual per capita income", because the sentence later on goes on to compare it with "annual per capita income" of rest of the world. If it refers to $111, whole sentence will not make sense!
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I think "which" is needed.

Here is my reasoning,

Bihar is India’s poorest state, with an annual per capita income of $111, lower than in the most impoverished countries of the world.

If I read the sentence carefully, "lower than..." seems to modify first sentence & not the "orange" color sentence, which is provided as additional information about Bihar.

But we need to refer to noun in this additional information, hence we need "which"!

What do you think?


(Bhaiyyo, I hate Lalu for making Bihar poorest state but because of him Bihar reached SC section of GMAT :shock: )
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Here is a similar question from SC1000, FYI

177. Bihar is India’s poorest state, with an annual per capita income of $111, lower than in the most impoverished countries of the world.
(A) lower than in
(B) lower than that of
(C) and lower than that of
(D) which is lower than in
(E) which is lower than it is in
The OA is B

Here is what I think"

I think the key is we have "that of" which clearly refers to "annual per capita income".


How can Bihar's annual per capita income be "lower" than "that of the most impoverished countries on the world" ? Isn't Bihar part of this new world itself :shock: Vivek what's your take :?
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E.

The Bihar question is from OG Verbal guide. I was quite unhappy with the OE for that question.

I am suddenly seeing too many Biharis, Mukherjees etc in the GMAT questions....looks like GMAT is the new GRE......



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I think "which" is needed.

Here is my reasoning,

Bihar is India’s poorest state, with an annual per capita income of $111, lower than in the most impoverished countries of the world.

If I read the sentence carefully, "lower than..." seems to modify first sentence & not the "orange" color sentence, which is provided as additional information about Bihar.

But we need to refer to noun in this additional information, hence we need "which"!

What do you think?


(Bhaiyyo, I hate Lalu for making Bihar poorest state but because of him Bihar reached SC section of GMAT :shock: )
:) :) :) :) :(
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How can Bihar's annual per capita income be "lower" than "that of the most impoverished countries on the world" ? Isn't Bihar part of this new world itself :shock: Vivek what's your take :?


the most impoverished countries, Bihar is not a country. India is not necessarily the poorest country, but Bihar could be the poorest state in the world. :-D
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I think "which" is needed.

Here is my reasoning,

Bihar is India’s poorest state, with an annual per capita income of $111, lower than in the most impoverished countries of the world.

If I read the sentence carefully, "lower than..." seems to modify first sentence & not the "orange" color sentence, which is provided as additional information about Bihar.

But we need to refer to noun in this additional information, hence we need "which"!

What do you think?


(Bhaiyyo, I hate Lalu for making Bihar poorest state but because of him Bihar reached SC section of GMAT :shock: )


dont know if I am dragging this far to long

but consider this

The McClaren F-150 is the most sought after high performance vehicle in the world, with a top speed of over 250 miles per hour, higher than any other non-racing equipped automobile available to the public.

(A) higher than
(B) and is higher than
(C) which is higher than those of
(D) which is higher than that of
(E) higher than that of

D or E

I would rule out D because of unclear referent.. referent should be 'top speed' and adjacent to and before ‘which’

E is POE

In Bihar question

177. Bihar is India’s poorest state, with an annual per capita income of $111, lower than in the most impoverished countries of the world.
(A) lower than in
(B) lower than that of
(C) and lower than that of
(D) which is lower than in
(E) which is lower than it is in


I would look for || ism ‘per capita income of’ || with ‘lower than that of’
Again, ‘which’ does not have a clear referent … it should modify ‘annual per capita’ and follow proximity rule.

Can someone please confirm ?
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Here is a similar question from SC1000, FYI

177. Bihar is India’s poorest state, with an annual per capita income of $111, lower than in the most impoverished countries of the world.
(A) lower than in
(B) lower than that of
(C) and lower than that of
(D) which is lower than in
(E) which is lower than it is in
The OA is B

Here is what I think"

I think the key is we have "that of" which clearly refers to "annual per capita income".

How can Bihar's annual per capita income be "lower" than "that of the most impoverished countries on the world" ? Isn't Bihar part of this new world itself :shock: Vivek what's your take :?


Het duttsit :-D
Nice to see you back!

Well, the comparison is between "per capita income" of Bihar (a state in India) and "per capita income" of so far known "poorest countries" in the world.
The sentence is trying to tell that one state's per capita income is lower than per capita income of some known poorest countries.

Did I get your point clearly? :?
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I think "which" is needed.

Here is my reasoning,

Bihar is India’s poorest state, with an annual per capita income of $111, lower than in the most impoverished countries of the world.

If I read the sentence carefully, "lower than..." seems to modify first sentence & not the "orange" color sentence, which is provided as additional information about Bihar.

But we need to refer to noun in this additional information, hence we need "which"!

What do you think?


(Bhaiyyo, I hate Lalu for making Bihar poorest state but because of him Bihar reached SC section of GMAT :shock: )


I would rule out D because of unclear referent.. referent should be 'top speed' and adjacent to and before ‘which’ E is POE

In Bihar question


I would look for || ism ‘per capita income of’ || with ‘lower than that of’
Again, ‘which’ does not have a clear referent … it should modify ‘annual per capita’ and follow proximity rule.

Can someone please confirm ?


Why do you think "which" has no clear referent? What is ambiguity? :?
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Here is a similar question from SC1000, FYI

177. Bihar is India’s poorest state, with an annual per capita income of $111, lower than in the most impoverished countries of the world.
(A) lower than in
(B) lower than that of
(C) and lower than that of
(D) which is lower than in
(E) which is lower than it is in
The OA is B

Here is what I think"

I think the key is we have "that of" which clearly refers to "annual per capita income".

How can Bihar's annual per capita income be "lower" than "that of the most impoverished countries on the world" ? Isn't Bihar part of this new world itself :shock: Vivek what's your take :?

Het duttsit :-D
Nice to see you back!

Well, the comparison is between "per capita income" of Bihar (a state in India) and "per capita income" of so far known "poorest countries" in the world.
The sentence is trying to tell that one state's per capita income is lower than per capita income of some known poorest countries.

Did I get your point clearly? :?


yeah Vivek , I think u gave the correct and clear explanation!
for car question, i too pick D , we need which to tell us that it talks abt the speed!
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By the way, the McLaren F-1 is street legal in some states. Agree with (D). This was a bellcurves SC I remember posting quite some time ago...



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