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The sequence \(a_1\), \(a_2\), … , \(a_n\), … is such that \(a_n = 2a_{n-1} - x\) for all positive integers n ≥ 2 and for certain number x. If \(a_5 = 99\) and \(a_3 = 27\), what is the value of x?

A. 3
B. 9
C. 18
D. 36
E. 45

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The sequence a1, a2, … , a n, … is such that an = 2an-1 - x for all positive integers n ≥ 2 and for certain number x. If a5 = 99 and a3 = 27, what is the value of x?

A. 3
B. 9
C. 18
D. 36
E. 45



a5= 2*a4 - x = 99

a4 = 2*a3 - x = 2*27 - x

therefore;

a5 = 2*(54 - x ) -x = 99

108 - 3*x = 99

therefore X = 3

This the answer is "A"
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Good one. Please let me know if some one comes up with a solution that can be worked under 2 mins :)

given an= 2an-1 - x

a5 = 99 = 2 a4 - X = 2[2a3-X] -X = 4 a3 - 3X
given a3 = 27 ; substituting:

108 - 3X = 99 => X = 3

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The sequence a1, a2, … , a n, … is such that an = 2an-1 - x for all positive integers n ≥ 2 and for certain number x. If a5 = 99 and a3 = 27, what is the value of x?
A. 3
B. 9
C. 18
D. 36
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Quite simple to solve this one.

Given: \(a_n = 2a_{n-1} - x\)

\(a_5 = 99\)

\(a_3 = 27\)

\(a_5 = 2a_4 - x = 2(2a_3 - x) - x = 4a_3 - 3x = 99\)

\(4(27) - 3x = 99\)\(3x = 108-99 = 9\)

\(x = 3\)
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The sequence a1…..a2.......an........is such that an=2an-1-X for all positive integers n>=2 and for certain number X. If a5=99 and a3=27, what is the value of X?


Plug the known values a5=99 and a3 = 27 into the formula:

a5 = 2(a4) - x
99 = 2(a4) - x

a4 = 2(a3) - x
a4 = 2(27)-x = 54-x

Substitute 54-x for a4 in the top equation:
99 = 2(54-x)-x
99=108-3x
3x=9
x=3

On the GMAT, I would recommend that you plug in the answer choices, one of which would say that x=3.

Plug a5 = 99 and x=3 into the formula:
99 = 2(a4) -3
a4 = 51

Plug a4=51, a3=27, and x=3 into the formula:
51 = 2(27) - 3
51 = 51. Success!
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The sequence a1…..a2.......an........is such that an=2an-1-X for all positive integers n>=2 and for certain number X. If a5=99 and a3=27, what is the value of X?

A5=99 and A3=27
According to the given nth term, A5=2(A4)-x=2{2(A3)-x}-x=2{(2*27)-x}-x=108-2x-x=108-3x
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a(n) = 2*a(n-1) -x

a5 = 99
a3=27

a5 = 2a4-x
a4 = 2a3-x

=>99 = 2(2a3-x)-x

99 = 4a3-3x = 4*27-3x

=>x=3

Answer is A.
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A is the answer

a4= 54-x

=> a5 = 2 (54 -x) -x = 99

=> 108 - 3x = 99
=> x= 3
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The sequence a1, a2, … , a n, … is such that an = 2an-1 - x for all positive integers n ≥ 2 and for certain number x. If a5 = 99 and a3 = 27, what is the value of x?
A. 3
B. 9
C. 18
D. 36
E.45


Quite simple to solve this one.

Given: \(a_n = 2a_{n-1} - x\)

\(a_5 = 99\)

\(a_3 = 27\)

\(a_5 = 2a_4 - x = 2(2a_3 - x) - x = 4a_3 - 3x = 99\)

\(4(27) - 3x = 99\)\(3x = 108-99 = 9\)

\(x = 3\)

QUESTION : How exactly did you get from 2(2a3 - x) to 4a3 * 3x, wouldn't it be 4a3 - 2x?
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The sequence a1, a2, … , a n, … is such that an = 2an-1 - x for all positive integers n ≥ 2 and for certain number x. If a5 = 99 and a3 = 27, what is the value of x?
A. 3
B. 9
C. 18
D. 36
E.45


Quite simple to solve this one.

Given: \(a_n = 2a_{n-1} - x\)

\(a_5 = 99\)

\(a_3 = 27\)

\(a_5 = 2a_4 - x = 2(2a_3 - x) - x = 4a_3 - 3x = 99\)

\(4(27) - 3x = 99\)\(3x = 108-99 = 9\)

\(x = 3\)

QUESTION : How exactly did you get from 2(2a3 - x) to 4a3 * 3x, wouldn't it be 4a3 - 2x?


\(a_4=2a_3-x\) --> \(a_5 = 2a_4 - x\) --> \(a_4=2(2a_3-x)-x=4a_3-2x-x=4a_3-3x\).
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The sequence \(a_1\), \(a_2\), … , \(a_n\), … is such that \(a_n = 2a_{n-1} - x\) for all positive integers n ≥ 2 and for certain number x. If \(a_5 = 99\) and \(a_3 = 27\), what is the value of x?

A. 3
B. 9
C. 18
D. 36
E. 45




\(a_5= 2*a_4 - x = 99\)

\(a_4 = 2*a_3 - x = 2*27 - x\)

\(a_5 = 2*(54 - x ) -x = 99\)

108 - 3*x = 99

Therefore X = 3

Hence option A is correct.
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I did not understand the relation at first, but giving another shot worked well, thanks.
a5=99
a3=27

a5=2a4−x
=2(2a3−x)−x
=4a3−3x=99a5
=2a4−x
=2(2a3−x)−x
=4a3−3x=99

4(27)−3x
=994(27)−3x
=993x
=108−99
=93x
=108−99
=9

x=3
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The sequence \(a_1\), \(a_2\), … , \(a_n\), … is such that \(a_n = 2a_{n-1} - x\) for all positive integers n ≥ 2 and for certain number x. If \(a_5 = 99\) and \(a_3 = 27\), what is the value of x?

A. 3
B. 9
C. 18
D. 36
E. 45



Hello Bunuel,

following the sequence formula \(a_n = a_{n-1} + d = a_1 + (n-1)d\) mentioned here https://gmatclub.com/forum/math-sequenc ... ml#p790381

can i now convert this \(a_n = 2a_{n-1} - x\) in a more friendly version to understand how it reads and what it wants :)

----> \(a_n = 2a_{n-1} - x\) = ---- > \(a_1+2(n-1)x\) am i correct ? please confirm :)

Why \(a_n = a_{n-1} + d= a_1 + (n-1) d\) why in the first formula we add \(d\) whereas in next formula we multiply by \(d\) :?

Hello niks18 perhaps you can help :)
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The sequence \(a_1\), \(a_2\), … , \(a_n\), … is such that \(a_n = 2a_{n-1} - x\) for all positive integers n ≥ 2 and for certain number x. If \(a_5 = 99\) and \(a_3 = 27\), what is the value of x?

A. 3
B. 9
C. 18
D. 36
E. 45



Hello Bunuel,

following the sequence formula \(a_n = a_{n-1} + d = a_1 + (n-1)d\) mentioned here https://gmatclub.com/forum/math-sequenc ... ml#p790381

can i now convert this \(a_n = 2a_{n-1} - x\) in a more friendly version to understand how it reads and what it wants :)

----> \(a_n = 2a_{n-1} - x\) = ---- > \(a_1+2(n-1)x\) am i correct ? please confirm :)

Why \(a_n = a_{n-1} + d= a_1 + (n-1) d\) why in the first formula we add \(d\) whereas in next formula we multiply by \(d\) :?

Hello niks18 perhaps you can help :)


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The question does not mention that the sequence is an AP series. so you cannot blindly apply AP formula to every sequence.

Regarding you second query \(a_n = a_{n-1} + d= a_1 + (n-1) d\), you need to understand how the formula is derived and what is the meaning of different notations in this formula. The derivation of this formula should be available in GMAT quant books or high school maths book.

For your understanding if I have an AP series as: 1,2,3,4,5,6 then can you identify what is \(a_n , a_{n-1} , d , a_1, n\) for this series.
Once you have identified these elements then try and plug in the values of the elements in the above formula to understand how it works.
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dave13 wrote:
jet1445 wrote:
The sequence \(a_1\), \(a_2\), … , \(a_n\), … is such that \(a_n = 2a_{n-1} - x\) for all positive integers n ≥ 2 and for certain number x. If \(a_5 = 99\) and \(a_3 = 27\), what is the value of x?

A. 3
B. 9
C. 18
D. 36
E. 45



Hello Bunuel,

following the sequence formula \(a_n = a_{n-1} + d = a_1 + (n-1)d\) mentioned here https://gmatclub.com/forum/math-sequenc ... ml#p790381

can i now convert this \(a_n = 2a_{n-1} - x\) in a more friendly version to understand how it reads and what it wants :)

----> \(a_n = 2a_{n-1} - x\) = ---- > \(a_1+2(n-1)x\) am i correct ? please confirm :)

Why \(a_n = a_{n-1} + d= a_1 + (n-1) d\) why in the first formula we add \(d\) whereas in next formula we multiply by \(d\) :?

Hello niks18 perhaps you can help :)


Hi dave13

The question does not mention that the sequence is an AP series. so you cannot blindly apply AP formula to every sequence.

Regarding you second query \(a_n = a_{n-1} + d= a_1 + (n-1) d\), you need to understand how the formula is derived and what is the meaning of different notations in this formula. The derivation of this formula should be available in GMAT quant books or high school maths book.

For your understanding if I have an AP series as: 1,2,3,4,5,6 then can you identify what is \(a_n , a_{n-1} , d , a_1, n\) for this series.
Once you have identified these elements then try and plug in the values of the elements in the above formula to understand how it works.


thanks Niks, i wlll dive in these sequences :)
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The sequence \(a_1\), \(a_2\), … , \(a_n\), … is such that \(a_n = 2a_{n-1} - x\) for all positive integers n ≥ 2 and for certain number x. If \(a_5 = 99\) and \(a_3 = 27\), what is the value of x?

A. 3
B. 9
C. 18
D. 36
E. 45



Hello niks18 :)

ok I learnt something new today :)

I ve found out that there are actually two kind of sequence formals for finding nth term, i wish Bunuel added this information to his post about sequences, it would be very helpful for such dummies like me :)

Explicit formula

\(a_n = d(n-1)+a_1\)



Recursive formula

\(a_n = a_{n-1} + d\)



\(a_1\) is first term



\(a_n\) is next term



\(a_{n-1}\) is previous term




Now what is the difference between recursive and explicit formulas ? the difference is that recursive is better for finding the first few terms, whereas explicit is great for finding far off terms in sequence. :)



i have one question what does it mean "for all positive integers n ≥ 2" ? :-)
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The sequence \(a_1\), \(a_2\), … , \(a_n\), … is such that \(a_n = 2a_{n-1} - x\) for all positive integers n ≥ 2 and for certain number x. If \(a_5 = 99\) and \(a_3 = 27\), what is the value of x?

A. 3
B. 9
C. 18
D. 36
E. 45



Hello niks18 :)

ok I learnt something new today :)

I ve found out that there are actually two kind of sequence formals for finding nth term, i wish Bunuel added this information to his post about sequences, it would be very helpful for such dummies like me :)

Explicit formula

\(a_n = d(n-1)+a_1\)



Recursive formula

\(a_n = a_{n-1} + d\)



\(a_1\) is first term



\(a_n\) is next term



\(a_{n-1}\) is previous term




Now what is the difference between recursive and explicit formulas ? the difference is that recursive is better for finding the first few terms, whereas explicit is great for finding far off terms in sequence. :)



i have one question what does it mean "for all positive integers n ≥ 2" ? :-)


Hi dave13

first of all do not mix AP formula with this question. The sequence mentioned in this question does not state that it is an AP series, hence you cannot apply AP formula here.
"for all positive integers n ≥ 2" means that n is either greater than or equal to 2. for values of n less than 2, this sequence does not hold.

you need not go into so much of technical definitions. Here you only need to understand the application. I had given an example in my earlier post of an AP series which you can use to understand the application; 1,2,3,4,5,6

Here first term, \(a_1=1\); common difference \(d=1\) and last term \(a_n=6\) and number of terms \(n=6\). So if I have to find \(a_n\) i.e the last term, then I can find it through either of the two formula mentioned by you above

so \(a_n=a_1+(n-1)*d=1+(6-1)*1=1+5=6\)

\(a_n=a_{n-1}+d=5+1=6\). Note here \(a_{n-1}\) means a term just before the last term hence the notation \(n-1\)
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dave13 wrote:
jet1445 wrote:
The sequence \(a_1\), \(a_2\), … , \(a_n\), … is such that \(a_n = 2a_{n-1} - x\) for all positive integers n ≥ 2 and for certain number x. If \(a_5 = 99\) and \(a_3 = 27\), what is the value of x?

A. 3
B. 9
C. 18
D. 36
E. 45



Hello niks18 :)

ok I learnt something new today :)

I ve found out that there are actually two kind of sequence formals for finding nth term, i wish Bunuel added this information to his post about sequences, it would be very helpful for such dummies like me :)

Explicit formula

\(a_n = d(n-1)+a_1\)



Recursive formula

\(a_n = a_{n-1} + d\)



\(a_1\) is first term



\(a_n\) is next term



\(a_{n-1}\) is previous term




Now what is the difference between recursive and explicit formulas ? the difference is that recursive is better for finding the first few terms, whereas explicit is great for finding far off terms in sequence. :)



i have one question what does it mean "for all positive integers n ≥ 2" ? :-)


Hi dave13

first of all do not mix AP formula with this question. The sequence mentioned in this question does not state that it is an AP series, hence you cannot apply AP formula here.
"for all positive integers n ≥ 2" means that n is either greater than or equal to 2. for values of n less than 2, this sequence does not hold.

you need not go into so much of technical definitions. Here you only need to understand the application. I had given an example in my earlier post of an AP series which you can use to understand the application; 1,2,3,4,5,6

Here first term, \(a_1=1\); common difference \(d=1\) and last term \(a_n=6\) and number of terms \(n=6\). So if I have to find \(a_n\) i.e the last term, then I can find it through either of the two formula mentioned by you above

so \(a_n=a_1+(n-1)*d=1+(6-1)*1=1+5=6\)

\(a_n=a_{n-1}+d=5+1=6\). Note here \(a_{n-1}\) means a term just before the last term hence the notation \(n-1\)



Hello there niks18 :) thanks for explanation. highly appreciate. you know i think i am starting to undesrstand some nuances :) i ve read this post https://magoosh.com/gmat/2012/sequences-on-the-gmat/

it is about sequences

here is an extract from the link "
Explicit Series
A explicit series is a series in which the general rule for finding each term can be stated, either verbally or mathematically. Sometimes the GMAT will give you the general rule for a sequence in algebraic form:

if a sequence is defined by \(a_n = n^2-n\) for n ≥ 2 what is the difference between 4th and 3rd terms
"

so what can i conclude is that if we dont know the distance between two terms, all we have to do is plug in the index number to find the value of each term. Here, we plug in n = 3 to find the third term, and plug in n = 4 to find the fourth term.


the same rule applied to the question we discussed right? because in all above posts everyone just plug in 5 (as fifth term) into \({n-1}\) to know the fifth term.

--- > \(a_5 = 2a_{5-1} - x = 99\)

a5= 2*a4 - x = 99

Am i understanding now correctly ?
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Hello there niks18 :) thanks for explanation. highly appreciate. you know i think i am starting to undesrstand some nuances :) i ve read this post https://magoosh.com/gmat/2012/sequences-on-the-gmat/

it is about sequences

here is an extract from the link "
Explicit Series
A explicit series is a series in which the general rule for finding each term can be stated, either verbally or mathematically. Sometimes the GMAT will give you the general rule for a sequence in algebraic form:

if a sequence is defined by \(a_n = n^2-n\) for n ≥ 2 what is the difference between 4th and 3rd terms
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so what can i conclude is that if we dont know the distance between two terms, all we have to do is plug in the index number to find the value of each term. Here, we plug in n = 3 to find the third term, and plug in n = 4 to find the fourth term.


the same rule applied to the question we discussed right? because in all above posts everyone just plug in 5 (as fifth term) into \({n-1}\) to know the fifth term.

--- > \(a_5 = 2a_{5-1} - x = 99\)

a5= 2*a4 - x = 99

Am i understanding now correctly ?


yes your understanding is correct. A function has a dependent and independent variable. you plug in the independent variable to get the dependent variable.
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