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Whose/Which present after the comma in options C and D modify the word right before the comma or the noun phrase before the comma i.e "depiction of traditional notions...masculinity"?
I always get confused about such things, can someone please help?

Normally the modifier touch rule applies, i.e. a modifier must touch the noun it modifies. However there are some exceptions to the touch rule. One such exception is when another vital modifier, typically a prepositional phrase starting with "of", falls between the modifier and the modified noun.

Example:
His way of solving problem, which is often found to be effective, is not considered a conventional way by the experts.

In the above sentence the modifier "which is often..." modifies the noun "way" - you would notice that another modifier, the vital modifier "of solving problem", comes betwen the modifier "which is often..." and the modified noun "way".

I would leave it to you to draw the parrallel between the example above and the options C and D.

Sorry i am still finding it difficult to comprehend.
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I am not sure what is wrong with either A/C/D . In case of A, I think "with an earnest..." modifies "masculinity"? In case of C : I feel there are 3 options for "whose": 1. "depiction"... 2. "traditional notions"...., 3, "family honor and masculinity"..., and in either case the sentence still make sense to me. And in case of D, we have one option for "which" : 1. "traditional notions"." What am i getting wrong here?
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Whose/Which present after the comma in options C and D modify the word right before the comma or the noun phrase before the comma i.e "depiction of traditional notions...masculinity"?
I always get confused about such things, can someone please help?

Normally the modifier touch rule applies, i.e. a modifier must touch the noun it modifies. However there are some exceptions to the touch rule. One such exception is when another vital modifier, typically a prepositional phrase starting with "of", falls between the modifier and the modified noun.

Example:
His way of solving problem, which is often found to be effective, is not considered a conventional way by the experts.

In the above sentence the modifier "which is often..." modifies the noun "way" - you would notice that another modifier, the vital modifier "of solving problem", comes betwen the modifier "which is often..." and the modified noun "way".

I would leave it to you to draw the parrallel between the example above and the options C and D.

Sorry i am still finding it difficult to comprehend.

Ok, so I would extend the explanation to the options C and D as below:

Modified noun = "depiction".
Modifier = "whose...." / "which...".

Ideally, according to the touch rule, the modifier "whose..." / "which..." should touch the modified noun "depiction". So, ideal placement is:
.....Modified noun, modifier....

So are the options C and D wrong because of this touch rule issue? The answer is no.

There is an exception to the touch rule that allows inclusion of a vital "of" phrase between the modified noun and the modifier. Here,

vital "of" phrase = "of traditional notions of family honor and masculinity".

Therefore although the modifier "whose...." / "which..." does not touch the modified noun "depiction", the modifier placement is alright because a vital phrase "of traditional notions of family honor and masculinity" is inserted in between. So, accepted placement is:
Modified noun + vital "of" phrase, modifier

So option C and D are wrong not because of the above mentioned modifier issue, but because of some other issue, which is not in the scope of your query, I understand.

If the explanation is still not clear, please feel free to post again.
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