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I would like to share my story about GMAT. I did study GMAT by myself and got 740 (Q51, V38, IR5, AWA5) in my first attempt on 20th Nov 2015. It is not high compared to a lot of members on this forum but I would like to share, especially for who don't have time and/ or money to study with instructors, to follow their dreams.
Firstly, I would like to introduce myself. I am Vietnamese. My background is Chemical Engineering at a local university and did not study overseas before. Now I am working in Private Equity in healthcare at a Japanese firm in my country. I got several national prizes in chemistry since high school and university but I think the prizes are well recognized in my country only, not internationally.
My journey:
1. I studied SC and CR of Manhattan books and RC of Veritas books. I reviewed Manhattan math books quickly (most of Vietnamese are good at math).
2. Then I worked on official guides but did not to learn sufficiently. I did focus on quantity instead of quality. (Big mistake)
3. Then I try GMAT Prep CAT and got 640 and 620 respectively. Really disappointed.
4. I used e-GMAT verbal to learn again in a short time. I found it useful with SC, IR and CR. SC and IR are very good. CR is good. For me, RC is not very useful at all.
5. I came back with official guides and all GMAT Prep CAT questions. This time, I focused on quality. I went to forum and got a lot of useful lessons, especially with comments of Ron Purewal on Manhattan Forum. However, I think I improved a lot but SC is still difficult to me with hard questions (I think that my RC and CR are better than SC).
6. My GMAT scores with CATs as below:
My recommendations could be useful for non-native and maybe very good for Vietnamese:
1. Math: review Manhattan math books and focus only on Official Guides. If you are not good at math, take more tests from Gmat Club and/ or Manhattan. Don't worry if you are not good with result since those tests are more difficult than real ones.
2. Verbal: if you have money, take an online verbal course like e-GMAT, Manhattan, Veritas, Magoosh... I believe that they can build good background to study in the next step since most of Vietnamese are bad at reading (lazy in reading and non-native in English, mostly). If you don’t have much money, focus on Manhattan SC, Manhattan CR and Veritas RC. People often feel sleepy and lose concentration when reading new things.
3. Official guides and GMAT Prep: Once you have good background by e-courses or book reading above. This step is the key to success. Firstly, you should learn questions by categories: for example, in SC you sort and focus only on pronoun errors, then on idiom... Learn why an answer is right and why others are wrong. It is very very important to absorb the background in step 2.
4. Search your difficulties on the Internet: If you have any problems with OG questions, search on the Internet. The best forum to search is Manhattan forum since it has a lot of useful knowledge. In this forum (GMAT Club Forum), many people want to show off rather than contribute their knowledge into the forum. Most of threads related to OG on this forum are not useful at all if there are no GMAT instructor involvements. Most of the responses in the forum are similar to “A obviously”, “C clearly”, “it takes me 4 mins 35 sec to read the passage”… Sometimes, they try to give some comments to get Kudos, not to get knowledge. Forum members should use their time to do something better.
5. IR: after working on Verbal and Math, you can practice IR on GMAT Prep to learn.
6. AWA: the AWA thread on this forum is very useful to study and get an acceptable score. Thank you, Chineseburned!
7. Time management: it is a very important factor in GMAT test. Learn the time management strategy and control it well. If you are very good at math, use up all time since you may see some difficult questions or you do not read questions carefully. Normally, I did a math part within 60 mins in GMAT Prep CAT but I tried to use it all in Real GMAT to get more correct answers. In verbal, I did very well in the first 10 questions (16 mins real vs 20 mins target) but the short time created me the feeling that I had a lot of time. I slowed down and did not have enough time for the last three questions. I even did not have time to click on the last question. Remember: time is score - not too fast, not too slow.
8. CATs: please don’t worry if you did not perform well on MGM CAT or Veritas CAT, especially if you are from such non-native English countries as Vietnam. Their questions are a little different and a little harder from questions from GMAC. If you understand the way GMAC create the right answers, you will not worry much about that. My real score is 100 higher than most of those CATs. Those CATs are very useful for practice: time management and brain work. Remember again: OG & GMAT Prep is the key to get good score.
9. Other sources: I just recommend reading newspaper to improve reading and English: Economist, Nature, FT… I read New York Times since Linkedin gave me for free. Many other sources are very bad and mislead your effort (e.g. 1000 SC). If you have time, read books again and work on more questions related to GMAC, Manhattan and Veritas. I even don’t recommend paper test, China test set, Aristote CR or RC99... Forget them.
I am not sure if Ron Purewal, Manhattan GMAT Instructor, is on this forum but I would like to express my gratitude to him. I had many difficulties and did not know anybody can help me with but I found many similar difficulties in Manhattan forum and Ron did help some others to make the difficulties easier. Thank you, Ron!
If you study alone and want to share more your problems related to GMAT, email me and I will try my best. If you are in Ho Chi Minh City (Vietnam), we can have a coffee (I can pay for you). My email is: shinetons at gmail dot com.
MBA cost at an overseas business school is extremely high and mostly unaffordable for Vietnamese if you were not born in a rich family. My GMAT is a good small step but my journey could be longer than others. (Takeaway: you should choose your parents before you were born
)
Firstly, I would like to introduce myself. I am Vietnamese. My background is Chemical Engineering at a local university and did not study overseas before. Now I am working in Private Equity in healthcare at a Japanese firm in my country. I got several national prizes in chemistry since high school and university but I think the prizes are well recognized in my country only, not internationally.
My journey:
1. I studied SC and CR of Manhattan books and RC of Veritas books. I reviewed Manhattan math books quickly (most of Vietnamese are good at math).
2. Then I worked on official guides but did not to learn sufficiently. I did focus on quantity instead of quality. (Big mistake)
3. Then I try GMAT Prep CAT and got 640 and 620 respectively. Really disappointed.
4. I used e-GMAT verbal to learn again in a short time. I found it useful with SC, IR and CR. SC and IR are very good. CR is good. For me, RC is not very useful at all.
5. I came back with official guides and all GMAT Prep CAT questions. This time, I focused on quality. I went to forum and got a lot of useful lessons, especially with comments of Ron Purewal on Manhattan Forum. However, I think I improved a lot but SC is still difficult to me with hard questions (I think that my RC and CR are better than SC).
6. My GMAT scores with CATs as below:
- Early Sept/ 2015: GMAT Prep CAT 1: 640 (Q50)
Early Sept/ 2015: GMAT Prep CAT 2: 620 (Q51)
28 Sept 2015: MGM CAT 1: 680 (Q48, V35)
28 Sept 2015: MGM CAT 2: 640 (Q42, V36)
6th Oct 2015: MGM CAT 3: 630 (Q44, V32)
31st Oct 2015: MGM CAT 4: 630 (Q45, V32)
- 17th Nov 2015: Veritas CAT 1: 640 (Q47, V31)
17th Nov 2015: Veritas CAT 2: 620 (Q47, V31)
Real GMAT Score 20th Nov 2015: 740 (Q51, V38, IR5, AWA5)
My recommendations could be useful for non-native and maybe very good for Vietnamese:
1. Math: review Manhattan math books and focus only on Official Guides. If you are not good at math, take more tests from Gmat Club and/ or Manhattan. Don't worry if you are not good with result since those tests are more difficult than real ones.
2. Verbal: if you have money, take an online verbal course like e-GMAT, Manhattan, Veritas, Magoosh... I believe that they can build good background to study in the next step since most of Vietnamese are bad at reading (lazy in reading and non-native in English, mostly). If you don’t have much money, focus on Manhattan SC, Manhattan CR and Veritas RC. People often feel sleepy and lose concentration when reading new things.
3. Official guides and GMAT Prep: Once you have good background by e-courses or book reading above. This step is the key to success. Firstly, you should learn questions by categories: for example, in SC you sort and focus only on pronoun errors, then on idiom... Learn why an answer is right and why others are wrong. It is very very important to absorb the background in step 2.
4. Search your difficulties on the Internet: If you have any problems with OG questions, search on the Internet. The best forum to search is Manhattan forum since it has a lot of useful knowledge. In this forum (GMAT Club Forum), many people want to show off rather than contribute their knowledge into the forum. Most of threads related to OG on this forum are not useful at all if there are no GMAT instructor involvements. Most of the responses in the forum are similar to “A obviously”, “C clearly”, “it takes me 4 mins 35 sec to read the passage”… Sometimes, they try to give some comments to get Kudos, not to get knowledge. Forum members should use their time to do something better.
5. IR: after working on Verbal and Math, you can practice IR on GMAT Prep to learn.
6. AWA: the AWA thread on this forum is very useful to study and get an acceptable score. Thank you, Chineseburned!
7. Time management: it is a very important factor in GMAT test. Learn the time management strategy and control it well. If you are very good at math, use up all time since you may see some difficult questions or you do not read questions carefully. Normally, I did a math part within 60 mins in GMAT Prep CAT but I tried to use it all in Real GMAT to get more correct answers. In verbal, I did very well in the first 10 questions (16 mins real vs 20 mins target) but the short time created me the feeling that I had a lot of time. I slowed down and did not have enough time for the last three questions. I even did not have time to click on the last question. Remember: time is score - not too fast, not too slow.
8. CATs: please don’t worry if you did not perform well on MGM CAT or Veritas CAT, especially if you are from such non-native English countries as Vietnam. Their questions are a little different and a little harder from questions from GMAC. If you understand the way GMAC create the right answers, you will not worry much about that. My real score is 100 higher than most of those CATs. Those CATs are very useful for practice: time management and brain work. Remember again: OG & GMAT Prep is the key to get good score.
9. Other sources: I just recommend reading newspaper to improve reading and English: Economist, Nature, FT… I read New York Times since Linkedin gave me for free. Many other sources are very bad and mislead your effort (e.g. 1000 SC). If you have time, read books again and work on more questions related to GMAC, Manhattan and Veritas. I even don’t recommend paper test, China test set, Aristote CR or RC99... Forget them.
I am not sure if Ron Purewal, Manhattan GMAT Instructor, is on this forum but I would like to express my gratitude to him. I had many difficulties and did not know anybody can help me with but I found many similar difficulties in Manhattan forum and Ron did help some others to make the difficulties easier. Thank you, Ron!
If you study alone and want to share more your problems related to GMAT, email me and I will try my best. If you are in Ho Chi Minh City (Vietnam), we can have a coffee (I can pay for you). My email is: shinetons at gmail dot com.
MBA cost at an overseas business school is extremely high and mostly unaffordable for Vietnamese if you were not born in a rich family. My GMAT is a good small step but my journey could be longer than others. (Takeaway: you should choose your parents before you were born
) 
28 Nov 2015, 23:15
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Congratulations on scoring a 740. Your family must be proud. I am glad that e-GMAT played a role in helping you achieve your target score. You seem to have referred to a number of resources (books, courses etc.) How many hours did you spend preparing. Lastly, which schools are you applying to?
Congratulations and good luck!!
-Rajat
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Congratulations and good luck!!
-Rajat
_________________
28 Nov 2015, 23:16
Kudos
Bookmarks
Congratulations on scoring a 740. Your family must be proud. I am glad that e-GMAT played a role in helping you achieve your target score. You seem to have referred to a number of resources (books, courses etc.) How many hours did you spend preparing. Lastly, which schools are you applying to?
Congratulations and good luck!!
-Rajat
_________________
Congratulations and good luck!!
-Rajat
_________________
