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somerandomperson
Joined: 05 Jul 2021
Last visit: 03 Nov 2024
Posts: 5
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Location: India
Schools: Harvard '24 (II) Wharton '24 (II)
28 Apr 2022, 08:33
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Hi All,
Let me share my story. I am an 30-yr old Indian working on an H1-B visa in San Fransisco Bay Area, US right now. My company has filed my PERM application and lawyers estimate that I'll be able to file my I-140 and I-485 (through cross-chargeability) by end of this year. If everything goes fine, I'll be able to secure my Green Card in 2024 (again, thanks to cross-chargeability
) which gives me the freedom to pursue whatever I'd like to do in future.
I applied for some full-time MBA programs last year and got into Wharton. If I decide to pursue Wharton, I'll have to get back on an F-1 visa, abandoning my GC process for two years and hopefully starting again after I graduate. As my partner's work visa also finishes next year, she'll move on a dependent visa, not allowing her to work till her GC-EAD gets approved, which is estimated to be 2 years after my graduation. This means she'll be out of relevant employment for around 3 years. My partner doesn't prefer this situation but is supportive even if we make this decision.
My future career goals are to work in Tech VC and Entrepreneurship space. Even though a Wharton MBA could add immense value to my career in future (esp. moving from being a software dev to VC/Entrepreneur), I am reconsidering going there now at the cost of losing 3-4 more years to the H1-B/GC process. I feel that this could be a lifetime opportunity that I'm missing.
1. Would like to know if any other folks have been in the same boat and what they think about trading 3-4 years of more visa related struggles for a Wharton MBA?
2. Can I try to defer my admission and pursue an MBA later using a GC-EAD next year or in 2 years (not sure if they'll allow)?
3. Will a full-time MBA or an executive MBA be a good option at 32yrs when I have a Green Card?
Thank you in Advance.
Let me share my story. I am an 30-yr old Indian working on an H1-B visa in San Fransisco Bay Area, US right now. My company has filed my PERM application and lawyers estimate that I'll be able to file my I-140 and I-485 (through cross-chargeability) by end of this year. If everything goes fine, I'll be able to secure my Green Card in 2024 (again, thanks to cross-chargeability
) which gives me the freedom to pursue whatever I'd like to do in future.I applied for some full-time MBA programs last year and got into Wharton. If I decide to pursue Wharton, I'll have to get back on an F-1 visa, abandoning my GC process for two years and hopefully starting again after I graduate. As my partner's work visa also finishes next year, she'll move on a dependent visa, not allowing her to work till her GC-EAD gets approved, which is estimated to be 2 years after my graduation. This means she'll be out of relevant employment for around 3 years. My partner doesn't prefer this situation but is supportive even if we make this decision.
My future career goals are to work in Tech VC and Entrepreneurship space. Even though a Wharton MBA could add immense value to my career in future (esp. moving from being a software dev to VC/Entrepreneur), I am reconsidering going there now at the cost of losing 3-4 more years to the H1-B/GC process. I feel that this could be a lifetime opportunity that I'm missing.
1. Would like to know if any other folks have been in the same boat and what they think about trading 3-4 years of more visa related struggles for a Wharton MBA?
2. Can I try to defer my admission and pursue an MBA later using a GC-EAD next year or in 2 years (not sure if they'll allow)?
3. Will a full-time MBA or an executive MBA be a good option at 32yrs when I have a Green Card?
Thank you in Advance.
28 Apr 2022, 08:45
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Hi. Congratulations on your admit! That’s a fantastic result. Frankly, the hard part of the MBA program is getting in. you should totally put on your resume that you got into Warden. When people see Wharton on the résumé, are they impressed that you’ve been able to graduate or that you’ve been able to get in? It’s really beginning in part that decides everything… Staying in is the easy part…. Have you ever heard of anyone getting kicked out? 😂
Having lived through the pandemic and the biggest land war in Europe since WWII, in the last two years, I would suggest siding on the option of pursuing the green card.
1. If you got into Wharton this year, there’s a good chance you’ll be able to do it next year or the year after. Even if not, you can probably count on booth or Yale in case you’re application degrades for some reason which I kind of doubt about too much of a degradation.
2. Age and work experience, as they progress they do tend to push you out of the traditional business school recruiting path. By delaying your MBA by two years, you are potentially delaying your promotion and growth by two years and the biggest concern would be being overqualified and stuck in limbo after graduation. At that time, you can always do the one-year Stanford MSX program. That will be right up the venture-capital and tech alley. In other words, you will have options that will open up even if some close.
3. I think the opportunity and the long-term cost of your partner not working for three years will be fairly detrimental. I know people get kids and leave work force and this could be the time to do that but it’s challenging to explain employment gaps and they stand out on the résumé.
4. I have a feeling that Wharton may be open to deferring you this year. I feel you have a very strong case and it’s a good cars two get a deferral even from such a high ranking school. Many programs have been quietly offering deferral‘s to people, giving extensions to deadlines and have been very understanding about personal situations. I have been very pleasantly surprised. I do not want to set your expectations hi but I would say the chances are higher than zero.
Bottom Line:
Between the risk of losing the green card, delaying the process, and highly likelihood that you can repeat your success in the coming year or two with some improvement to your profile, I feel the better choice would be to ask for a deferral and regardless of getting it, to continue pursuing the green card. That’s my read 😇
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Having lived through the pandemic and the biggest land war in Europe since WWII, in the last two years, I would suggest siding on the option of pursuing the green card.
1. If you got into Wharton this year, there’s a good chance you’ll be able to do it next year or the year after. Even if not, you can probably count on booth or Yale in case you’re application degrades for some reason which I kind of doubt about too much of a degradation.
2. Age and work experience, as they progress they do tend to push you out of the traditional business school recruiting path. By delaying your MBA by two years, you are potentially delaying your promotion and growth by two years and the biggest concern would be being overqualified and stuck in limbo after graduation. At that time, you can always do the one-year Stanford MSX program. That will be right up the venture-capital and tech alley. In other words, you will have options that will open up even if some close.
3. I think the opportunity and the long-term cost of your partner not working for three years will be fairly detrimental. I know people get kids and leave work force and this could be the time to do that but it’s challenging to explain employment gaps and they stand out on the résumé.
4. I have a feeling that Wharton may be open to deferring you this year. I feel you have a very strong case and it’s a good cars two get a deferral even from such a high ranking school. Many programs have been quietly offering deferral‘s to people, giving extensions to deadlines and have been very understanding about personal situations. I have been very pleasantly surprised. I do not want to set your expectations hi but I would say the chances are higher than zero.
Bottom Line:
Between the risk of losing the green card, delaying the process, and highly likelihood that you can repeat your success in the coming year or two with some improvement to your profile, I feel the better choice would be to ask for a deferral and regardless of getting it, to continue pursuing the green card. That’s my read 😇
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28 Apr 2022, 21:02
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Hello somerandomperson
Congratulations on your admit to Wharton. I was in a situation like yours. I have an admit from one of the top 10 US schools. In January 2022, my manager said he is going to send my name for GC. For me GC would take approx 1.5 years. Initially I was confused between admission & GC. Then I thought a lot and discussed it with friends, family and different school alumni.
Best and experienced advice came from alumni (2016 class, 2020 class, 2019 class). Each one of them said if they were at my position they would take the GC option. They graduated from the best schools and are in the market on H1B. After every 2-3 years they have to still be in queue for visa and stamping. You know the current stamping situation is the worst. Also being on H1B visa limited their employment opportunity irrespective of their grad school brand. I am also irritated by the visa queue and stamping hassles.
Another plus point is you can get a loan for your MBA easily if you have GC. Like not everyone gets admission in Wharton, not everyone gets GC easily. Getting a GC is pure luck and time. There were so many talented people in the queue who wanted to get GC but couldn't.
After this discussion I reached out to my school and requested them to defer my admission to next year. I was honest and gave an honest reason. Unbelievably and fortunately my school accepted my defer admission request.
All the best for your decision! Life is all about choices. Whatever decision you will make own it with pride and confidence.
Congratulations on your admit to Wharton. I was in a situation like yours. I have an admit from one of the top 10 US schools. In January 2022, my manager said he is going to send my name for GC. For me GC would take approx 1.5 years. Initially I was confused between admission & GC. Then I thought a lot and discussed it with friends, family and different school alumni.
Best and experienced advice came from alumni (2016 class, 2020 class, 2019 class). Each one of them said if they were at my position they would take the GC option. They graduated from the best schools and are in the market on H1B. After every 2-3 years they have to still be in queue for visa and stamping. You know the current stamping situation is the worst. Also being on H1B visa limited their employment opportunity irrespective of their grad school brand. I am also irritated by the visa queue and stamping hassles.
Another plus point is you can get a loan for your MBA easily if you have GC. Like not everyone gets admission in Wharton, not everyone gets GC easily. Getting a GC is pure luck and time. There were so many talented people in the queue who wanted to get GC but couldn't.
After this discussion I reached out to my school and requested them to defer my admission to next year. I was honest and gave an honest reason. Unbelievably and fortunately my school accepted my defer admission request.
All the best for your decision! Life is all about choices. Whatever decision you will make own it with pride and confidence.
