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02 Mar 2009, 10:43
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Hi All,
I'm planning to apply for Oxford/Cambridge. I'll be applying for next year's R1, but I'm also considering taking a shot with R3/R4 of this year.
If I apply this year, my applications would be rushed, and I'll have less career development than with next year's applications. This combined with the R3/R4 app means I would have a much lower chance of getting in this year.
So I have 3 questions:
1) If I take a shot this year and am rejected from both schools, would that have a negative, positive, or no impact on my application for next year?
2) Would I have a chance to redo the applications from scratch, or would the second applications be 'explain what's changed from last time you applied'?
3) Would applying late have a big impact on scholarship potential?
If relevant:
-I'm 26.
-My profile is here: t74960-profile-evaluation-please-canadian.
-My final GMAT score was 750 (Q50 V41 AWA5.5).
Thanks!
Ryan
I'm planning to apply for Oxford/Cambridge. I'll be applying for next year's R1, but I'm also considering taking a shot with R3/R4 of this year.
If I apply this year, my applications would be rushed, and I'll have less career development than with next year's applications. This combined with the R3/R4 app means I would have a much lower chance of getting in this year.
So I have 3 questions:
1) If I take a shot this year and am rejected from both schools, would that have a negative, positive, or no impact on my application for next year?
2) Would I have a chance to redo the applications from scratch, or would the second applications be 'explain what's changed from last time you applied'?
3) Would applying late have a big impact on scholarship potential?
If relevant:
-I'm 26.
-My profile is here: t74960-profile-evaluation-please-canadian.
-My final GMAT score was 750 (Q50 V41 AWA5.5).
Thanks!
Ryan
02 Mar 2009, 16:00
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Hi Ryanj,
Welcome to our subforum. I'll try to answer your questions basing on information I have.
1. AFAIK, there's no penalty for re-applicants. However, the positive changes in your profile are desirable in such a case.
2. You'll need to do your apps from scratch next year. Perhaps you could ask for special consideration, but it's not a standard procedure.
3. I'm afraid that in general, yes. Some particular scholarships will still be available even for those who apply later (you'll need to check the sites to see which ones), but overall chances to get one certainly become weaker.
As to your more general question whether to apply or not - of course you know that well prepared app is better than rushed one. However, if you want just to play the lottery and see what will come out of it - I'd say why not. Your chances will probably be lower for Cambridge, as they consider the written part of your app very seriously (and are very selective, too), so the lack of preparation will hurt you more there. However, your academics are really strong, and they may still want to interview you as they are after something 'special'. And I think that you have a very good chance at Oxford - they care even more about academic strength.
Your age is below the average for both schools, but I don't think it will hurt you, providing that you meet their experience requirements. Also, the lack of community involvement is not a deadly flaw for Oxbridge: I've seen admits for people with no community/social activities at all (they did have other interesting hobbies, though - but so do you).
Btw, if you don't mind my asking, are Oxbridge your top priority schools or just 'why not?' ones? I read in your profile that you thought about LBS and MIT as well - so, what is more important for you: to get to a higher ranked school next year or try your luck with Oxbridge in R3/4R?
Welcome to our subforum. I'll try to answer your questions basing on information I have.
1. AFAIK, there's no penalty for re-applicants. However, the positive changes in your profile are desirable in such a case.
2. You'll need to do your apps from scratch next year. Perhaps you could ask for special consideration, but it's not a standard procedure.
3. I'm afraid that in general, yes. Some particular scholarships will still be available even for those who apply later (you'll need to check the sites to see which ones), but overall chances to get one certainly become weaker.
As to your more general question whether to apply or not - of course you know that well prepared app is better than rushed one. However, if you want just to play the lottery and see what will come out of it - I'd say why not. Your chances will probably be lower for Cambridge, as they consider the written part of your app very seriously (and are very selective, too), so the lack of preparation will hurt you more there. However, your academics are really strong, and they may still want to interview you as they are after something 'special'. And I think that you have a very good chance at Oxford - they care even more about academic strength.
Your age is below the average for both schools, but I don't think it will hurt you, providing that you meet their experience requirements. Also, the lack of community involvement is not a deadly flaw for Oxbridge: I've seen admits for people with no community/social activities at all (they did have other interesting hobbies, though - but so do you).
Btw, if you don't mind my asking, are Oxbridge your top priority schools or just 'why not?' ones? I read in your profile that you thought about LBS and MIT as well - so, what is more important for you: to get to a higher ranked school next year or try your luck with Oxbridge in R3/4R?
02 Mar 2009, 21:43
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Hi greenoak,
Thanks very much for your comments - they're much appreciated. It sounds like the biggest thing I'll need to consider, then, is if it's worth waiting a year to have a shot at more potential scholarships.
To answer your question, I included LBS/MIT in my original profile eval to get a sense of my overall range, but Oxbridge are actually my preferred schools. They seem to represent a good combination of:
1) 12 month programs
2) Not exorbitantly expensive
3) Good brand recognition back in Canada
4) A great life experience
Having said that, if I wait for next year and apply with a stronger application (FYI I'd be focusing on internationally-based community leadership), I'd then take a shot on a couple of the ultra-elites to get accepted and luck out with some scholarship money. If both of those occurred (against the odds, I know), then I'd probably change course.
Ryan
Thanks very much for your comments - they're much appreciated. It sounds like the biggest thing I'll need to consider, then, is if it's worth waiting a year to have a shot at more potential scholarships.
To answer your question, I included LBS/MIT in my original profile eval to get a sense of my overall range, but Oxbridge are actually my preferred schools. They seem to represent a good combination of:
1) 12 month programs
2) Not exorbitantly expensive
3) Good brand recognition back in Canada
4) A great life experience
Having said that, if I wait for next year and apply with a stronger application (FYI I'd be focusing on internationally-based community leadership), I'd then take a shot on a couple of the ultra-elites to get accepted and luck out with some scholarship money. If both of those occurred (against the odds, I know), then I'd probably change course.
Ryan
