Continuing the tradition set by bsd_lover and others in the past, I proudly present to you, the 2010 LBS thread. I invite all those applying, or considering applying, to contribute to this thread. Im sure it'll be just as popular, if not more, than the threads from the last 2 years. So throw your names into the hat, ladies n gents, and get ready for one helluva ride !! P.S. Im thinking about keeping this thread exclusive for MBA applicants, and have a separate one for MiF and MiM applicants, as there seemed to be a lot of interest in those programs last year Here is some further info on the school : MBA home page : https://www.london.edu/mba.html Employment report : https://www.london.edu/mba/careerimpact.html Social Clubs : https://www.londonsa.org/dynamic/club_list.php Recommendor forms : https://www.london.edu/assets/documents ... ctions.pdf Mckinsey recruiting at LBS - https://www.mckinsey.com/careers/lbs/home.aspx Ranked #1 school in the WORLD by FT in 2009. Link - https://rankings.ft.com/businessschoolr ... a-rankings LBS 2008 thread can be found here : lbs-r1-roll-call-54115.html LBS 2009 thread can be found here: the-london-business-school-2009-thread-70701.html#p521283 LBS online application can be found here : https://www.london.edu/register/do?actionId=186 Good luck all. Important Dates Round Application Deadline Interview decision sent on Admission decision sent on 1 07 October 2009 06 November 2009 16 December 2009 2 06 January 2010 09 February 2010 25 March 2010 3 03 March 2010 09 April 2010 20 May 2010 4 21 April 2010 28 May 2010 02 July 2010 LBS R1: Applicants =? Tally: Admits: N/A Dings: N/A Waitlist: N/A Admits danek zeayin82 humblewinner vgeri andygee jinbo boofyhairgirl stopper5 zibi1 DoctorManhattan fishoil mbabiden08 Waitlist Evidence gnr646 eowyn foncia wolfie123 s1ap fordfirestone Interview invites Jmoore3 waitinganswers Ding wizardoftheeast wiseguyMBA DrSatisfaction arv afan lianbear alpha_plus_gamma theDream (post interview) LBS R2: Admits quantjock jonatank yangsta8 Trantastic Michiavelli saundyCEC nurkholisoh JoeMa Dogg2012 jasonjason planettelex Waitlist vodkacran Frontline avatar2010 crux mayaS Ari123 madmex82 boeinz 4test1 a11c99 bouh22 lakai777 db66460 eee chainchain pochcc Interview invites claudemarie planettelex JoeMahmah pranavc bwizzle Ding sh0gg0th notsovegetarian (w/int) highhopes09 (w/int) pranaysrinivasan (w/int) isjii2010(w/int) eagleye81200(w/int) undafry(w/int) horrorshow(w/int) IndianGuardian (w/int) classof2012somewhere (w/int) EBSIFounder (w/int) snowinTX (w/int) activerun BLINDSIDE itsmystery bonobocobra rockyb Angelwrath shamil623 sj0509 Lastminute gmattokyo psned11 rishiphadke culesrules prome2 sudeep nitin86 Nonewsisgoodnews guptaji Tally: Admits: N/A Dings: N/A Waitlist: N/A LBS R3: ? applicants aj1545 LBS R4: ? applicants MIA F aval anotherindian danswer poojashetty McNerdy Hussain15 snipertrader zuperman Franklin sharshar84 Salisaaa fernando09 thisisatestgmat88 CharlieChaplin jsonali jimmiejaz satyr2k Michiavelli madmex82 saruba shokks oscar81 alnasl

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The two schools that I would consider for the exchange are NYU and UCLA. Thank you for your swift response!

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UCLA get taken up quickly as well (by folks interested in media). Stern on the other hand has 20 slots and might be an option. This would vary from year to year on demand, so keep your eyes and ears open from day one and write some compelling exchange essays.

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Does anyone know about any current or past students of American origin doing a campus exchange with another American university? I heard typically it's not allowed, but there is a precedent for exceptions to the rule. Has anyone else heard something similar? Please advise.

i know for a fact its possible b/c my friend is an LBS graduate and he did an exchange with Tuck. i cannot speak to how frequent or exceptional that exchange was however because it never came up.

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bsd_lover,

Hope you're well?

Can you talk about, to the extent that you know, the process for granting Exchange programme approval? Are decisions at the sole discretion of London Business School? The sole discretion of the Exchange School? Joint discretion between London Business School and the Exchange School?

You also alluded to applications essays for Exchange programme applications; are there other components of the Exchange application process? Is one limited to the number of Exchange programmes to which one can apply? Any insight you can provide would be appreciated!

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General question:

In the application for entry into the programme, the requirement to limit one's CV to a single page was made abundantly clear. However, as one begins the programme with:

- multiple years of work experience
- likely membership in/active involvement with at least one School club (probably more)
- pre-programme extra-curricular activities
- possible declaration of areas of academic concentration, etcetera,

is it acceptable to upgrade one's CV to two pages?

Perhaps Prashok or bsd_lover could weigh in on this at some point.

To my fellow Admits/Prospectives, is anyone else considering a two-page CV from this point onwards?

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I believe the key to the resume is to garner just enough interest to receive an interview. It's not dissimilar to coming on too strong and providing too much detail about oneself on the first date. I seem to believe less is more.

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i'm a little torn by this as well. With 12 years of experience, in several different industries, it was tough to bring down my resume from 2 pages to 1. I would feel much more comfortable with a two page resume to show the progression and connection between each position.

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I'm going to ask my contacts, current students at various MBA programmes, what their respective Career Services offices recommend with respect to CV length.

I recall that throughout my university years, and early days in my career, the one-page CV was stressed continuously as recruiters and career advisers remarked that there couldn't possibly be sufficient accomplishment at those levels to justify a CV that exceeded one page. As one transitions from such stages, I'm, somewhat, of the opinion that continued adherence to a single page CV (based on the positions of the many recruiters and career advisers I've met in the last five years), is an implicit admission of a lack of significant accomplishment.

Further thoughts are appreciated. In the meantime, I'll get started on my unscientific survey!

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In a nutshell you can choose 3 schools (in order of preference). 30% weighing to first term grades and 70% weighing on a 500 word essay. Selection is purely at LBS discretion. I will find out which of my 3 picks I get by 26th of March. After stating my preferences, I have committed to go to the one I get selected for. If I turn it down then I am not allowed to go on exchange any more.

There are 2 rounds to this process. I applied in first round because I really wanted the exchange. I have never studied or lived in the US and am very excited about the opportunity. Although bear in mind that the exchange is a risk. It costs 4 electives (out of 11). It occurs at either Autumn or Spring terms - which may be peak full time recruitment period.

People want different things from the exchange. AGSM is popular with many Americans because Australia is an exotic travel destination and you get to escape a cold winter for beautiful summer. Many folks choose China or Hong Kong for career reasons. Some people go to the European schools (IESE and HEC are quite popular).

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You will NOT have an option to go over one page. They will get reviewed by career services midway through autumn term (before they go in the CV book) and if it is too long, you will be told to shorten it. Furthermore I'll say that it will look really BAD if it is over one page. It shows lack of clarity and succinctness. CV is not just a simple listing of all your accomplishments; it is also a story board of what makes you a strong candidate for a particular role. You will end up tailoring your CVs for different roles. You should be able to achieve this in one page. I have 9 years of work experience in 5 different industries. I have had to cut out accomplishments that I have been proud of - but are totally irrelevant.

We have a web based system for creating CVs where you type out roles one by one and the system generates a pdf document. While I am not a big fan of this, it ensures consistency of CVs for everyone at the school.

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well i guess that answers THAT question.

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Thanks for the insight, bsd_lover. What exactly is the CV book you mention? Is it more like a master CV book for students to learn about their classmates' professional backgrounds, or is it a collection of generic CVs that employers from different industries will see from career services?

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The CV book is a collection of CVs sometimes used by potential employers to hand pick candidates. This book however only contains an initial generic CV. Its usage is rare, but it does happen. We dont get to see the official CV book, however, all our classmates' generic CVs are viewable and searchable in the career central portal (this is different to the main portal - you will get access once school starts). You will also be able to view 2nd year students' CVs. I found this particularly useful when looking for tips / strategies to create my own CV.

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bsd_lover,

Thanks for the response on this! I hope you get some good news on the 26th!

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Thank you, bsd_lover!

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Yes, it definitely does answer the question! I'm a little surprised as I'd been so sure I was advancing to the stage where a two page CV would be acceptable. While this is now a moot point, I thought I'd share my findings (which echo what bsd_lover said to the letter!)

I spoke to two contacts at Harvard, and three contacts at Kellogg:

Harvard frowns heavily on anything beyond a single page, and beyond exceptions made for (in one of my friend's words) "...a PhD. holder with prior multiple Master's degrees, who previously headed up a world-famous company in an executive position, etc...," the CV one-page limit is strictly enforced.

Kellogg won't even work with you till your CV fits into one page (confirmed by all my contacts there), and even then, it must conform to some sort of template.

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well i guess that answers THAT question.

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I'm going to ask my contacts, current students at various MBA programmes, what their respective Career Services offices recommend with respect to CV length.

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Further thoughts are appreciated. In the meantime, I'll get started on my unscientific survey!

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Great input bsd_lover. Just wanted to add that it is not that common that US students go on exchange to US schools (as mentioned) but it is surely possible. Those who return want to work in the US post MBA, therefore attending a US b-school on exchange is beneficial for recruiting purposes. I also heard of an LBS alumn who is in Boston at BCG who exchanged to Tuck and made use of their career services (another factor to consider - some schools don't let LBS students use their career services, while we allow everyone coming to LBS to use ours!). Then in my year someone went to Chicago Booth. Both Tuck and Booth are not very popular, and any US student should get in easily in the 2nd round. Kellogg is also not very popular, but they don't accept any US exchange students. Ross is also very easy, but never heard of anyone from LBS exchanging there in the first place. The toughest US schools got get into on exchange are MIT (only 2 spots - also can cross register and take classes at HBS), Haas, Columbia, Wharton, UCLA. I think if I remember correctly you also had to interview at LBS for a spot at Wharton (maybe also MIT, can't remember).

Then Capetown and Sydney are quite popular, and this year Hong Kong was also a top choice (with 10 exchangers, I'm one of them currently here, only second to New York).

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tmino,

Thanks for the inside tips on Exchange programmes! I’ve got a quick question: when you say “Kellogg is also not very popular, but they don't accept any US exchange students,” could you clarify, please?

I ask because I met a U.S.-based (American who applied to the programme from the United States) London Business School alumnus who completed an Exchange term at Kellogg, and is now back in the United States. Do you mean Kellogg doesn’t accept students for Exchange who are attending U.S. schools?

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From what I remember Kellogg does not accept incoming exchange students who are US citizens. I assume in general US b-schools won't have exchange programs with other US b-schools in the first place.

This is what I heard about the Kellogg exchange at LBS , but I may be wrong.