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Bunuel wrote:
7. Set X consists of 8 integers. Is the standard deviation of set X equal to zero?

(1) The range of set X is equal to 3
(2) The mean of set X is equal to 5


A. If range is not zero, then SD is not 0. Suff..
B. tells nothing..
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Please note the following:
A. I was assured MANY TIMS, by various GMAT tutors, that GMAT won't ask you to actually calculate SD, but rather to understand the concept of it. Though KNOWING how it's calculated helps in understanding the concept.
B. During the real GMAT it's highly unlikely to get more than one ot two question on SD (as on combinatorics), actually you may see none, so do not spend too much of your preparation time on it, it's better to concentrate on issues you'll definitely face on G-day.


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This this the question I saw on my G-Day:

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Sorry, you can't post questions you saw on exam.
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I'll try to provide some explanation of the questions with reference to answers, please correct me if i'm wrong.

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10. A scientist recorded the number of eggs in each of 10 birds' nests. What was the standard deviation of the numbers of eggs in the 10 nests?
[/b](1) The average (arithmetic mean) number of eggs for the 10 nests was 4.
(2) Each of the 10 nests contained the same number of eggs.
Answer: B.

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May be i don't understand the question properly, B is the right choice as each of the nest have identical eggs therefore SD = 0 or i missed something


hi Bullet,
really nice explanation by u..

Q10) totally there are 10 nests with some number of eggs. SD=??
1) avg. number of eggs for 10 nests is 4, i.e total of 40 eggs. But, this does not provide us with the number of eggs in each nest. So, SD can vary. Hence, data insuff.
2) each nest contained same number of eggs. when the elements in a set are identical SD=0. so, in this case SD=0. data suff.

Bullet,ur explanation is correct.

Answer:B
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hi Bunuel...
can you help me to understand the concept of SD little clearly...

1. ex: if set A={ 2 4 5 6 8}
here mean=5, and 2 & 8 are equidistant and farthest from the mean
so can we say SD= 8-5=3 or SD=5-2=3??

if set B={4 8 10 12 14}
here mean= 9.6 and 14 is the value that is spread farthest from the mean.
so can we say SD=14-9.6=4.4??

2. consider the two sets,

A={ 2 4 6 8 10}
B={2 6 8 12 14}

since the values of set B are widely spaced from the set's mean, it has a higher SD than set A, i.e., SD(B)>SD(A)
is it correct??

i hope i m not sounding stupid...

Also can u post the detailed explanations for Q4 and Q9...
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4. Set A and B are 2 sets of numbers. A has a standard deviation 3 and a mean 5. B has the same mean but standard deviation 4. Can we find the standard deviation of the set A U B ? If no, then is it possible with the following additional information?
(1) Both sets have the same number of members each (let’s say 4)
(2) Both sets have distinct members (no number is common to both sets).

Can we have the explaination for this problem?
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Can we have the explaination for this problem?


Don't worry about this question, it's not from the official source. Deleted form the set.
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11. During an experiment, some water was removed from each of the 6 water tanks. If the standard deviation of the volumes of water in the tanks at the beginning of the experiment was 10 gallons, what was the standard deviation of the volumes of water in the tanks at the end of the experiment?
(1) For each tank, 30% of the volume of water that was in the tank at the beginning of the experiment was removed during the experiment.
(2) The average (arithmetic mean) volume of water in the tanks at the end of the experiment was 63 gallons.
Answer: A.


As 30% of the volume is removed from all the tanks so SD remains same. therefore stmt 1 is sufficient.
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The Std Dev does NOT remain the same but ALso decreases by 30% as All subjects decrease by 30% hence ans is A
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11. During an experiment, some water was removed from each of the 6 water tanks. If the standard deviation of the volumes of water in the tanks at the beginning of the experiment was 10 gallons, what was the standard deviation of the volumes of water in the tanks at the end of the experiment?
[/b](1) For each tank, 30% of the volume of water that was in the tank at the beginning of the experiment was removed during the experiment.
(2) The average (arithmetic mean) volume of water in the tanks at the end of the experiment was 63 gallons.
Answer: A.


As 30% of the volume is removed from all the tanks so SD remains same. therefore stmt 1 is sufficient.


7. If we increase or decrease each term in a set by the same percent:
Mean will increase or decrease by the same percent.
SD will increase or decrease by the same percent.

Answer is A. But, the SD will decrease by 30%.
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6. Set T consists of odd integers divisible by 5. Is standard deviation of T positive?
(1) All members of T are positive
(2) T consists of only one member
Answer: B.

Stmt 1 is not sufficient as all members are +ive but they may be identical so SD will be zero.
Stmt 2 has only one member so SD is zero

so that is why B is the answer


can't we reject statement 2 for the same reason as 1. Set consist of One number means SD is zero, Zero is neither positive nor negative.
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6. Set T consists of odd integers divisible by 5. Is standard deviation of T positive?
(1) All members of T are positive
(2) T consists of only one member
Answer: B.

Stmt 1 is not sufficient as all members are +ive but they may be identical so SD will be zero.
Stmt 2 has only one member so SD is zero

so that is why B is the answer


can't we reject statement 2 for the same reason as 1. Set consist of One number means SD is zero, Zero is neither positive nor negative.


I'm not sure understood your question but here is a solution for this problem:

Question asks "is standard deviation of T positive?" Now, \(SD\geq{0}\): the only case when standard deviation of a set equals to zero is when the set contains all identical elements (or which is same only 1 element). So, basically the question ask whether all elements of T are identical.


(1) All members of T are positive --> not sufficient, as we can have set {5, 5, 5} and SD will be zero or {5, 15, 25} and SD will be some positive number.
(2) T consists of only one member --> directly gives us the answer, as T consists of only one element then its SD will be 0. Sufficient.

Answer: B.
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11. During an experiment, some water was removed from each of the 6 water tanks. If the standard deviation of the volumes of water in the tanks at the beginning of the experiment was 10 gallons, what was the standard deviation of the volumes of water in the tanks at the end of the experiment?
[/b](1) For each tank, 30% of the volume of water that was in the tank at the beginning of the experiment was removed during the experiment.
(2) The average (arithmetic mean) volume of water in the tanks at the end of the experiment was 63 gallons.
Answer: A.


As 30% of the volume is removed from all the tanks so SD remains same. therefore stmt 1 is sufficient.


7. If we increase or decrease each term in a set by the same percent:
Mean will increase or decrease by the same percent.
SD will increase or decrease by the same percent.

Answer is A. But, the SD will decrease by 30%.


I agree. The new Sd will be 0.7*original Sd or in other terms it drops by 30%.
Sqrt(1/n*sum(0.7x-0.7*mean)^2), you can take 0.7 out of the sqrt and hence the new sd is 0.7 times the old.
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Hi Bunuel,

I'd like to discuss question 9 a bit further. If the standard deviation of a set is 4, then the range within that SD is always 8, no matter you go the the left or right. Both (1) and (2) are redundant to answer the question right?
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Hi Bunuel,

I'd like to discuss question 9 a bit further. If the standard deviation of a set is 4, then the range within that SD is always 8, no matter you go the the left or right. Both (1) and (2) are redundant to answer the question right?


I see your point. The question is quite ambiguous and different interpretations are possible. Actually depending on how you interpret the question the answer can be B, D or even E. So, I'm deleting this question from the set.
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not sure about answer of q2,a) says that there are 21 members in the set,but since we expect a unique value for std deviation we must choose option c
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not sure about answer of q2,a) says that there are 21 members in the set,but since we expect a unique value for std deviation we must choose option c


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Any set of 21 consecutive numbers will have exact same standard deviation, irrespective of its value.
Std dev for \({1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21} = 6.0553\)
Std dev for \({11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,29,30,31} = 6.0553\)
Believe this is true for all evenly spaced sets with equal numbers of elements and same common difference.
Sufficient.

2.
Set can be:
{19,20,21}. Median=20. Std Dev=0.8165
{15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25}. Median=20. Std Dev=3.16228
Not Sufficient.

Thus, the answer is A.
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thanks a lot fluke,didnt know about this property,thanks a lot
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