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p different prizes are hidden inside v vases. One of the vases can hold up to two prizes, while the rest can hold only one prize. Are there more than 12 different possible arrangements of the prizes hidden in the vases?
1) p = 3
2) v = 3

This question makes no sense, for a half dozen reasons. For one, it already tells you the prizes are hidden, so there is only one arrangement a priori. Then it's not clear if it's one specific vase (a large vase say) that can hold two prizes, or if any of the vases could be the vase that can hold two prizes. From the OA, I gather the former interpretation is correct, but that's not what I would think reading the question. And then it's not clear when we put two prizes in a vase if their order matters (is one prize on top of the other?). They use the word "arrangement", which has a technical meaning in math that suggests order does matter, but the OA suggests it does not. That's among other issues.

So when I read this question, I have no idea what it even means. No GMAT question will ever be worded like this - real GMAT combinatorics questions are always very carefully worded, and you will always know precisely what freedoms and restrictions you have.
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p different prizes are hidden inside v vases. One of the vases can hold up to two prizes, while the rest can hold only one prize. Are there more than 12 different possible arrangements of the prizes hidden in the vases?
1) p = 3
2) v = 3

This question makes no sense, for a half dozen reasons. For one, it already tells you the prizes are hidden, so there is only one arrangement a priori. Then it's not clear if it's one specific vase (a large vase say) that can hold two prizes, or if any of the vases could be the vase that can hold two prizes. From the OA, I gather the former interpretation is correct, but that's not what I would think reading the question. And then it's not clear when we put two prizes in a vase if their order matters (is one prize on top of the other?). They use the word "arrangement", which has a technical meaning in math that suggests order does matter, but the OA suggests it does not. That's among other issues.

So when I read this question, I have no idea what it even means. No GMAT question will ever be worded like this - real GMAT combinatorics questions are always very carefully worded, and you will always know precisely what freedoms and restrictions you have.


Thanks for the insight.I got confused here.Ignoring this question.
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Here we would need to assume there are a max of V + 1 prizes to get to the solution. Is that a valid assumption to make?
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p different prizes are hidden inside v vases. One of the vases can hold up to two prizes, while the rest can hold only one prize. Are there more than 12 different possible arrangements of the prizes hidden in the vases?


1) p = 3
Since the number of vases are not given the possibilities can exceed 12 combination or short of the 12 mark depending on the number of vases
Clearly INsuff

2) v = 3
Now since the vase number is 3 we can safely assume the number of prices be 4
the arrangemnt of prize in vases can be done in 4c2 ways=6
and the remaining arrangement can be completed in 2 ways
Making the total no of arrangements to be 12
Therefore irrespective of the prize the total no of combination cannot exceed 12

Hence IMO B
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p different prizes are hidden inside v vases. One of the vases can hold up to two prizes, while the rest can hold only one prize. Are there more than 12 different possible arrangements of the prizes hidden in the vases?
1) p = 3
2) v = 3

This question makes no sense, for a half dozen reasons. For one, it already tells you the prizes are hidden, so there is only one arrangement a priori. Then it's not clear if it's one specific vase (a large vase say) that can hold two prizes, or if any of the vases could be the vase that can hold two prizes. From the OA, I gather the former interpretation is correct, but that's not what I would think reading the question. And then it's not clear when we put two prizes in a vase if their order matters (is one prize on top of the other?). They use the word "arrangement", which has a technical meaning in math that suggests order does matter, but the OA suggests it does not. That's among other issues.

So when I read this question, I have no idea what it even means. No GMAT question will ever be worded like this - real GMAT combinatorics questions are always very carefully worded, and you will always know precisely what freedoms and restrictions you have.

Came here to say this. Makes 0 sense.
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p different prizes are hidden inside v vases. One of the vases can hold up to two prizes, while the rest can hold only one prize. Are there more than 12 different possible arrangements of the prizes hidden in the vases?
1) p = 3
2) v = 3

1) p=3...
If v is 2, number of arrangements...2 in one and third in second so choosing 2 out of 3 in 3C2 so 3C2=3<12
If v is say 10 ...
Single in each, choose 3 out of 10 vases in 10C3>12..
Add to this where 1 can hold two and the other can hold 1
Insufficient

2) v=3..
One can hold 2 others one each..
So max p =4..
2 in one and one each in other two...
Total number 4C2*2=12...
Multiplication by 2 is because the ones that can hold one each can interchange the prize..
Say 4 prizes A,B,C,D
So if 1 can hold 2 and 2 and 3 can hold one each..
1-AB,2-C,3-D
1-AB,2-D,3-C
1-AC,2-B,3-D
1-AC,2-D,3-B
And so on
So it can never be greater than 12
Ans is NO
Sufficient

B
­Wht can't we consider 1,1,1 and 2,1,1 both cases for 2nd statement?

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