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Help: Booth vs Wharton vs Kellogg MMM acceptances Updated on: 03 Jan 2013, 12:17
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I know, I know, great problem to have. I would love people's thoughts though.

I want to go into General Management, have an interest in Biotech, and want a strong California network. General Management and Biotech are small segments at all these schools so I wonder if small differences in % of students going it to each (and #4 vs #11 in General Management) really matters.

Should I go with my gut about where I think I will fit in best with the other students (Booth), go for prestige and better rankings in what I want to do (Wharton), or go for a more diverse class and a dual degree (Kellogg)?

Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
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I know, I know, great problem to have. I would love people's thoughts though.

I want to go into General Management, have an interest in Biotech, and want a strong California network. General Management and Biotech are small segments at all these schools so I wonder if small differences in % of students going it to each (and #4 vs #11 in General Management) really matters.

Should I go with my gut about where I think I will fit in best with the other students (Booth), go for prestige and better rankings in what I want to do (Wharton), or go for a more diverse class and a dual degree (Kellogg)?

Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
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Personally, I don't think there is really much of a difference in prestige between Booth and Wharton. Based on what you've said, I'd suggest going to Booth (and also adding a poll to the OP). You really need to get cheetarah1980 in here as she chose Booth over Wharton and Kellogg (not MMM, though) just last year.
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Yup, I've read her blog and many of her posts here :)
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Yup, I've read her blog and many of her posts here :)
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Two questions I'd have for you:

1) Is the money the same at all three schools?
2) What originally appealed to you about the MMM option at Kellogg? It's a very unique program and definitely a differentiating factor here. Do you see yourself using the second degree in your chosen career field?
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Should I go with my gut about where I think I will fit in best with the other students (Booth), go for prestige and better rankings in what I want to do (Wharton), or go for a more diverse class and a dual degree (Kellogg)?

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Go with your gut on this one. I wouldn't worry about General Management rankings - all three of these are world class schools and the prestige/rankings are razor thin between them.

Take a look at the employment reports of the functions and geography where they place students and ask yourself where you'll be the happiest. You can't make a wrong decision here.

Judging on what I quoted above, the answer looks like Booth. Like I said before, I don't think Wharton's better ranking in General management means anything, and the argument for Kellogg is pretty weak: Diverse? All of these schools have a diverse student body. Dual degree? Why do you want it and how will it help you in your goals? It sounds like you're giving Kellogg a check in the "PRO" column because you'll come out of there with two degrees, but I'm not sure how applicable MMM is to general management, especially when you consider how the MEM degree will effect your choice of electives.
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Yup, I've read her blog and many of her posts here :)
Two questions I'd have for you:

1) Is the money the same at all three schools?
2) What originally appealed to you about the MMM option at Kellogg? It's a very unique program and definitely a differentiating factor here. Do you see yourself using the second degree in your chosen career field?
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1) Money is zero at all 3 though I plan to try asking for some once I determine which my favorite is (I have $ at Ross so I am hoping to leverage that). It would certainly convince me to go to either Booth or Wharton.

2) I like MMM because I come from Tech and am interested in Biotech. The innovation focus is very appealing to me (coming from Silicone Valley) plus I think an Engineering degree would give me a bit more credibility with Engineers that I would be managing. This was probably my top choice before visiting Kellogg and Booth last spring.

- Booth blew me away with their dedication to welcome potential applicants and I felt at home with the "nerdy" culture.
- Kellogg facilities certainly can not compare and the students I met were mostly typical marketing-types that are the stereotype of the school - I did not feel a great connection with them. I think I likely would connect more with the MMM students, but I have only met a few alum - not enough to really be able to tell.
- Wharton.... I did not get a great vibe. They just seemed so proud of themselves for being Wharton - the admissions office barely lifted a finger to help me get a sense of the school - even when I was interviewing. My stock question to interviewers is "Why X school?" and the guy at Wharton said he had never been asked that before. That mentality just rubbed me the wrong way - but I think I should give it another chance because I think it would be different now that I am in.

I mostly wonder if it makes sense to choose Booth despite the fact that it is likely the worst of the 3 for what I want to do. There are so many finance people there that I likely will never utilize in my career network. Kellogg people are much more likely to work for companies that I want to work for, and I think Wharton too.

Another consideration - I don't drink and I think that might be a bigger problem at Kellogg and possibly Wharton?
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Elbie, please feel free to PM about this. If you want to talk on the phone that would be a lot better than typing this out. I've experienced a lot of what you describe when I was trying to figure out where to go. Also I don't drink either. I promise no campaigning for Booth, just a sounding board and my thoughts on your concerns.
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Yup, I've read her blog and many of her posts here :)
Two questions I'd have for you:

1) Is the money the same at all three schools?
2) What originally appealed to you about the MMM option at Kellogg? It's a very unique program and definitely a differentiating factor here. Do you see yourself using the second degree in your chosen career field?

1) Money is zero at all 3 though I plan to try asking for some once I determine which my favorite is (I have $ at Ross so I am hoping to leverage that). It would certainly convince me to go to either Booth or Wharton.

2) I like MMM because I come from Tech and am interested in Biotech. The innovation focus is very appealing to me (coming from Silicone Valley) plus I think an Engineering degree would give me a bit more credibility with Engineers that I would be managing. This was probably my top choice before visiting Kellogg and Booth last spring.

- Booth blew me away with their dedication to welcome potential applicants and I felt at home with the "nerdy" culture.
- Kellogg facilities certainly can not compare and the students I met were mostly typical marketing-types that are the stereotype of the school - I did not feel a great connection with them. I think I likely would connect more with the MMM students, but I have only met a few alum - not enough to really be able to tell.
- Wharton.... I did not get a great vibe. They just seemed so proud of themselves for being Wharton - the admissions office barely lifted a finger to help me get a sense of the school - even when I was interviewing. My stock question to interviewers is "Why X school?" and the guy at Wharton said he had never been asked that before. That mentality just rubbed me the wrong way - but I think I should give it another chance because I think it would be different now that I am in.

I mostly wonder if it makes sense to choose Booth despite the fact that it is likely the worst of the 3 for what I want to do. There are so many finance people there that I likely will never utilize in my career network. Kellogg people are much more likely to work for companies that I want to work for, and I think Wharton too.

Another consideration - I don't drink and I think that might be a bigger problem at Kellogg and possibly Wharton?
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Happy New Year Elbie and CONGRATS! I totally share the same feeling and struggle with you since I received the calls from Wharton and Chicago (with some money).

From employment point of view, I found it very helpful to talk to people who know the companies that you look to join, such as their recruiting team members, ex- or current employees, and headhunters. They might help you get a sense of whether your target companies favor a school over another and how people see Boothies and Whartoners at those companies in specific locations. I'd also try to gauge whether the faculty members have any work relationship with your target companies.

From learning and culture point of view, hmm I totally agree with what you said about Booth. Boothies I met are so friendly and helpful and how they reached out to me to extend a warm welcome (plus scholarship) did move me! While for Wharton, since I'd prefer to switch from consulting to finance in Asia. Wharton does have slightly better brand and broader network in this market still.. I'd also look at the course list to see which school offers a better curriculum according to your needs.

Just want to share what I am thinking as I have the same problem. I will prob attend both schools' admit weekend to see whether I like the people I meet and what I see on campus before I make up my mind. After all, they are all great schools so have fun solving this problem!
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Yup, I've read her blog and many of her posts here :)
Two questions I'd have for you:

1) Is the money the same at all three schools?
2) What originally appealed to you about the MMM option at Kellogg? It's a very unique program and definitely a differentiating factor here. Do you see yourself using the second degree in your chosen career field?

1) Money is zero at all 3 though I plan to try asking for some once I determine which my favorite is (I have $ at Ross so I am hoping to leverage that). It would certainly convince me to go to either Booth or Wharton.

2) I like MMM because I come from Tech and am interested in Biotech. The innovation focus is very appealing to me (coming from Silicone Valley) plus I think an Engineering degree would give me a bit more credibility with Engineers that I would be managing. This was probably my top choice before visiting Kellogg and Booth last spring.

- Booth blew me away with their dedication to welcome potential applicants and I felt at home with the "nerdy" culture.
- Kellogg facilities certainly can not compare and the students I met were mostly typical marketing-types that are the stereotype of the school - I did not feel a great connection with them. I think I likely would connect more with the MMM students, but I have only met a few alum - not enough to really be able to tell.
- Wharton.... I did not get a great vibe. They just seemed so proud of themselves for being Wharton - the admissions office barely lifted a finger to help me get a sense of the school - even when I was interviewing. My stock question to interviewers is "Why X school?" and the guy at Wharton said he had never been asked that before. That mentality just rubbed me the wrong way - but I think I should give it another chance because I think it would be different now that I am in.

I mostly wonder if it makes sense to choose Booth despite the fact that it is likely the worst of the 3 for what I want to do. There are so many finance people there that I likely will never utilize in my career network. Kellogg people are much more likely to work for companies that I want to work for, and I think Wharton too.

Another consideration - I don't drink and I think that might be a bigger problem at Kellogg and possibly Wharton?
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I actually voted wharton before reading your posts. Personally, I would choose a school that i felt more comfortable at. I had your Wharton experience at one of the schools I visited and was very disappointed. They literally went from my top choice to bottom of the list.
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While I do think that fit is important, I don't think that it's everything. First ask yourself what you want out of your MBA experience. Do you want to build relationships with people who you normally wouldn't interact with? Do you want to be a bit challenged socially? Then maybe going to the school that feels like home isn't the best idea. However, if you do want to be in a place where you can find "your people" then fit definitely matters more. There's no right or wrong answer, just personal preference. Mind you, never go to a school that feels all wrong. You will hate it and while it's okay to not always be comfortable during your two years in business school, you should not be miserable. For me, Kellogg was the school that felt the most familiar and natural to me. However, that's the biggest reason why my final decision really came down to Wharton vs. Booth. But that's just me...someone else might feel that their best fit school is Wharton or Booth. My most recent blog post is on this very topic and gives some food for thought.
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Thanks so much for all the advice everyone, I really appreciate it!

I'll probably see you at both calvinhobbes!
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While I do think that fit is important, I don't think that it's everything. First ask yourself what you want out of your MBA experience. Do you want to build relationships with people who you normally wouldn't interact with? Do you want to be a bit challenged socially? Then maybe going to the school that feels like home isn't the best idea. However, if you do want to be in a place where you can find "your people" then fit definitely matters more. There's no right or wrong answer, just personal preference. Mind you, never go to a school that feels all wrong. You will hate it and while it's okay to not always be comfortable during your two years in business school, you should not be miserable. For me, Kellogg was the school that felt the most familiar and natural to me. However, that's the biggest reason why my final decision really came down to Wharton vs. Booth. But that's just me...someone else might feel that their best fit school is Wharton or Booth. My most recent blog post is on this very topic and gives some food for thought.
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I really liked the "fit" portion you mentioned in the post :)