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hopscotchmafia
Joined: 17 Dec 2013
Last visit: 12 May 2015
Posts: 3
Schools: Darden '16 (A) Johnson '16 (M$) Duke '16 (WL)
GMAT 1: 700 Q46 V40
Hey gents, I was recently accepted to UVA Darden and Cornell Johnson for MBA and am looking for your advice. Looking to break into investment banking. My thoughts so far:
Darden:
Pros: IB recruiting equal to Cornell, stronger alumni network, potentially better classroom experience with case method, #1 faculty, Charlottesville > Ithaca, warmer climate, alumni and students seem extremely enthusiastic about their school, recruiting for banks is on campus and not expected to travel to and from NYC aside from final interviews.
Cons: Considered one of/the most rigorous of all b-schools means potentially hellish 1st/2nd year ("country club bootcamp"), case method very engaging but with 600+ cases may not address concepts fully, strong brand in South and U.S. but lesser-known to those not as familiar with b-schools and internationally.
Cornell: Pros: Ivy League brand, strong immersion program for IB, campus is picturesque despite town being so-so, close-knit community rivals Darden. Cons: Seems to be less enthusiasm from students and alumni and marginally less impressed with the students/curriculum.
So for current and previous applicants who have/had considered these two schools, and current and previous students as well, would you agree with this assessment/anything to add? In a nutshell I prefer the Ivy League brand but does that trump what seems like a better experience? And will I get my ass kicked by Darden's ridiculous workload and not fully engage in recruiting, networking, etc? Thanks!
Darden:
Pros: IB recruiting equal to Cornell, stronger alumni network, potentially better classroom experience with case method, #1 faculty, Charlottesville > Ithaca, warmer climate, alumni and students seem extremely enthusiastic about their school, recruiting for banks is on campus and not expected to travel to and from NYC aside from final interviews.
Cons: Considered one of/the most rigorous of all b-schools means potentially hellish 1st/2nd year ("country club bootcamp"), case method very engaging but with 600+ cases may not address concepts fully, strong brand in South and U.S. but lesser-known to those not as familiar with b-schools and internationally.
Cornell: Pros: Ivy League brand, strong immersion program for IB, campus is picturesque despite town being so-so, close-knit community rivals Darden. Cons: Seems to be less enthusiasm from students and alumni and marginally less impressed with the students/curriculum.
So for current and previous applicants who have/had considered these two schools, and current and previous students as well, would you agree with this assessment/anything to add? In a nutshell I prefer the Ivy League brand but does that trump what seems like a better experience? And will I get my ass kicked by Darden's ridiculous workload and not fully engage in recruiting, networking, etc? Thanks!
Hi and congratulations.
Is there a chance any school may award you a scholarship? Are all financial aid decisions have been made?
My experience is that both schools are very strong. We have plenty of current students at both schools (including KobraKai in Cornell as well as hywyre). I think for IB and finance, I feel that Darden is a slightly stronger program for Financial area (IB in particular).
Not a bad idea is to look at other areas not just your industry since in bschools priorities change frequently.
P.S. Congratulations - Good luck with the decision!
Similar discussion though in light of consulting: darden-vs-cornell-wl-150598.html
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Is there a chance any school may award you a scholarship? Are all financial aid decisions have been made?
My experience is that both schools are very strong. We have plenty of current students at both schools (including KobraKai in Cornell as well as hywyre). I think for IB and finance, I feel that Darden is a slightly stronger program for Financial area (IB in particular).
Not a bad idea is to look at other areas not just your industry since in bschools priorities change frequently.
P.S. Congratulations - Good luck with the decision!
Similar discussion though in light of consulting: darden-vs-cornell-wl-150598.html
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hopscotchmafia
Joined: 17 Dec 2013
Last visit: 12 May 2015
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Schools: Darden '16 (A) Johnson '16 (M$) Duke '16 (WL)
GMAT 1: 700 Q46 V40
Both schools mail out scholarship info a week or two after the decision. Would make my decision much easier if there was a big gap in $s but I have a feeling I will receive token scholarships at both - not a minority, average but not great stats (3.6 GPA, 700 GMAT), think I shined through in my essays and interview. But we'll see.
I also got the feeling that Darden might have a slight edge in IB. In regards to other areas I know they win MC placement hands down. I'll reach out to some more Cornell students/alums for sure, and thanks for the link!
Any current/prospective students or alums that could shed more light, would love to hear from you. Thanks!
I also got the feeling that Darden might have a slight edge in IB. In regards to other areas I know they win MC placement hands down. I'll reach out to some more Cornell students/alums for sure, and thanks for the link!
Any current/prospective students or alums that could shed more light, would love to hear from you. Thanks!
One more to add from a Johnson Current Student I got via PM:
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hopscotchmafia
I wouldn't be concerned about this since everyone will be going through the same courseload - especially since Darden doesn't let anyone exempt from core courses.
As I've experienced at my first semester at Johnson, the academics are rigorous, but only as rigorous as you make it. What I mean is, it's about time management. I came to business school to get a better job, so honestly, going to corporate briefings and other recruiting events was a bigger priority than studying for quizzes. The earlier you realize that you can't give 100% effort to everything, the better off you'll be.
Also, I would ask current IB students at Darden if the banks recruiting there care about grades. At Johnson, since we're not on the level of HBS, Wharton, Columbia, etc (and we don't have Grade Non Disclosure), banks ask about Accounting and Finance grades...heck, they'll even ask about how you're doing on the Finance quizzes. Having to be a grade-whore instead of focusing on learning is one way that can make your B-school life tougher. For the record, I'm not recruiting for IB, and I'm glad not to be caught up in the fray.
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