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15 Apr 2014, 17:16
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I have to choose between MBS and CEIBS business school. My background is IT (8 years) in India. Please don't ask short term goal, long term goal, location i prefer etc...doesn't matter to me as long as its a hot shot location and a hot shot job - plain and simple. Do not have any other options and can not postpone MBA plans. A short write up is below. Kindly take some time out to read. What I want from you is - Please choose one school that you would pick and explain your choice. Thanks.
For me CEIBS is a winner, but MBS opens gate for UK without language hassle and is 14 lacs cheaper(due to scholarship from MBS). Hence the confusion.
Manchester pro's:
1> 18 months program and not 1 year. Can stay till 2 years are over. Space for internship and job search. Same for CEIBS.
2> 4 major live business projects = 600 hours of projects. more live projects and Less classrooms == suits me.(slides , classrooms, definitions, facts are boring)
3> 40% scholarship at MBS. Total fee only 24 lacs (14 lacs less compared to CEIBS).
4> Language is English, so language not a problem. Will not be sidelined on language basis( CEIBS - Mandarin to get a job in mainland China)
5> Manchester city is mini london with low cost of living and football clubs like manchester united and manchester city
6> Spouse can work in UK without work permit for her stay in the UK( 2 years). She can work and support and can also make a career in UK.
7> Pre MBA 48% class from Asia and post MBA 30% of class end up in Asia post MBA. So 18% of class make to UK/Europe.
8> Post MBA - 40% finance, consulting 30% and technology 9%.
9> UK vs China. UK wins. Pound vs RMB. Pound wins.
10> Poets and Quants Ranks MBS 14 and CEIBS 18 in international MBA rankings.
11> Forbes ROI Ranking 2011: 2nd in World for ROI 5 years after graduation (for non-US programmes of more than one year)
Manchester cons:
1> 3 year average rank 34 with this year rank a very low 43 in FT.
2> Will be sidelined on work sponshorship/VISA basis as non EU candidate.
3> Europe in recession. Less good jobs. Have to compete with London, Cambridge, Oxford business schools apart from Insead, IESE in Europe.
4> Career report not detailed.
CEIBS pro:
1> Beats MBS in all parameters except international mobility as per FT rankings.
2> Top 20 B school in the world from the last 3 years as per FT.
3> Better career report than MBS.
CEIBS cons:
1> See career in mainland china or hong kong at best even after cracking placements.
2> No Scholarship. 50% of people come back to India. 40 lacs loan seems a very big amount.
RANKINGS :
1> FT : CEIBS -19, MBS - 43. Winner CEIBS
2> FORBES: CEIBS - 17, MBS - 13, Winner MBS
3> Ranking of Rankings(P&Q): (BW/FT/Fornes/ET): CEIBS -18, MBS -14, MBS Winner.
For me CEIBS is a winner, but MBS opens gate for UK without language hassle and is 14 lacs cheaper(due to scholarship from MBS). Hence the confusion.
Manchester pro's:
1> 18 months program and not 1 year. Can stay till 2 years are over. Space for internship and job search. Same for CEIBS.
2> 4 major live business projects = 600 hours of projects. more live projects and Less classrooms == suits me.(slides , classrooms, definitions, facts are boring)
3> 40% scholarship at MBS. Total fee only 24 lacs (14 lacs less compared to CEIBS).
4> Language is English, so language not a problem. Will not be sidelined on language basis( CEIBS - Mandarin to get a job in mainland China)
5> Manchester city is mini london with low cost of living and football clubs like manchester united and manchester city
6> Spouse can work in UK without work permit for her stay in the UK( 2 years). She can work and support and can also make a career in UK.
7> Pre MBA 48% class from Asia and post MBA 30% of class end up in Asia post MBA. So 18% of class make to UK/Europe.
8> Post MBA - 40% finance, consulting 30% and technology 9%.
9> UK vs China. UK wins. Pound vs RMB. Pound wins.
10> Poets and Quants Ranks MBS 14 and CEIBS 18 in international MBA rankings.
11> Forbes ROI Ranking 2011: 2nd in World for ROI 5 years after graduation (for non-US programmes of more than one year)
Manchester cons:
1> 3 year average rank 34 with this year rank a very low 43 in FT.
2> Will be sidelined on work sponshorship/VISA basis as non EU candidate.
3> Europe in recession. Less good jobs. Have to compete with London, Cambridge, Oxford business schools apart from Insead, IESE in Europe.
4> Career report not detailed.
CEIBS pro:
1> Beats MBS in all parameters except international mobility as per FT rankings.
2> Top 20 B school in the world from the last 3 years as per FT.
3> Better career report than MBS.
CEIBS cons:
1> See career in mainland china or hong kong at best even after cracking placements.
2> No Scholarship. 50% of people come back to India. 40 lacs loan seems a very big amount.
RANKINGS :
1> FT : CEIBS -19, MBS - 43. Winner CEIBS
2> FORBES: CEIBS - 17, MBS - 13, Winner MBS
3> Ranking of Rankings(P&Q): (BW/FT/Fornes/ET): CEIBS -18, MBS -14, MBS Winner.
25 May 2014, 12:38
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Which school did you select finally? Economic outlook in the UK is looking positive. CEIBS is an exchange partner with MBS so maybe you could opt for that and get the best of both 
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27 May 2014, 15:34
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I agree with nave. I decided to attend Manchester MBA for the above reasons!
