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29 Dec 2015, 10:49
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Hi all,
First of all Happy Holidays! I received a great Christmas gift: accepted into Booth and Kellogg (1/2 ride).
I have been thinking about this decision for two weeks now and analyzing everything I can but still do not have an answer (and I do not know if I will have it haha).
The “problem” first and foremost is the $$$, I know that if things were $0 vs $0 I would go to Booth.
My top goal is to transition to VC/Growth Equity in the emerging markets region where I am from (EM) keeping it vague for paranoia purposes, preferably with a social impact or tech focus. If the buy-side fails I would lean to IB or entrepreneurship (open to EM or USA).
Basically this is my analysis:
Booth:
+ Booth has a good reputation and community in EM. I know that nobody would question my MBA choice if I am a finance/investor guy and I would become part of a network of finance people. This is by far my most important point compared to Kellogg.
+ Is in the city and I love cities, the possibility of eating on different restaurants, bars and always have something to do excites me.
+ Better campus and it seems to have more finance/entrepreneurship resources
+ Momentum on rankings
+/- Academics more focused to the “quant” side – every course uses a data driven analytical approach. I “drew” my 21 course curriculum and is more leaned to Finance and entrepreneurship, two things that I like. On the other hand, I see that Booth is weaker in the leadership/people management side of business compared to Kellogg. More difficult courses?
+/- Lack of “core” curriculum means less community?
- Commuter school: Walking in the cold and riding a train to Booth would make me miserable
- Are people really more nerd? I am by no means a bookworm and I enjoy drinking with people and socializing so I do not know if Booth’s stereotype is true
- Fewer international and women (than Kellogg’s)
- More expensive
Kellogg:
+ $$$ ½ ride
+ Courses more leaning towards managing people, leadership, strategy (things that I enjoy learning but are not “a must” for my goals) and a class just focused on Impact Investing that Booth does not have. Courses appear to be easier.
+ Core curriculum means more community? Hanging with the same people for courses over and over again builds rapport.
+ When I visited and the call, letter, etc Kellogg’s people communicate they care about you. They have been keeping in touch and overall seem like a great bunch of people.
+ Clubs seem more inclusive: from the Joint Ventures through the professional clubs they have called me and seem like they do care (related to past point).
+ I heard that if I write that I earned a big scholarship in my resume it looks good and attracts recruiters.
+ More fun people overall?
+/- Historical Top 5 but below Booth right now
+/- Maybe with the cash and Kellogg's style I discover that I would like to pursue something different: a role in a startup or really start something myself withouth the burden of paying a full tuition.
- Evanston although a nice town short ride to the city is not in the city. I would guess with just 5-10 restaurants or bars it would bore me. Maybe social scene more aimed to house parties?
- Grade disclosure
- Reputation: I know that if I come back to EM and try to knock the door on some fund they would say “Kellogg is a marketing school”. I know because I talked to some finance people and they already told me the same.
- Network: In EM Kellogg alumni are not really organized and the ones that I found on LinkedIn are more into management than finance. (Related to last point)
Does anyone know anything about single/partners scene at both schools?
My final option would be to reapply -- when I was researching schools Stanford and Wharton were my top choices (rejected at both without interview). I knew that Stanford was difficult to get into so when they rejected me it was not that hard to swallow but Wharton was painful. This option is stupid because I think that the difference between Wharton and Booth/Kellogg is not that big and nothing assures me that they would take me next year, so is just a thought but not really an option haha
Thinking analytically I know that half ride is a lot of money but also is not that much during a lifetime of career earnings: There are arguments for both sides: less debt or more cash but going to the school that I want to go? In 20 years I would remember the school that I went to and not that it costed me 50% more?
I have savings and plan to get a government sponsored awards ($20k) but obviously the money is nice.
Finally, I already tried to get something from Booth and they told me that “maybe after second round” so that’s after the first deposit deadline and I do not plan to deposit to both schools just to see if something happens. I am going to booth schools on the first weekend of February (First Day and DAK), maybe I’ll get a better feeling hanging there for a full day.
Sorry for the long post – needed to get this out of my mind, really appreciate your thoughts.
Thanks.
First of all Happy Holidays! I received a great Christmas gift: accepted into Booth and Kellogg (1/2 ride).
I have been thinking about this decision for two weeks now and analyzing everything I can but still do not have an answer (and I do not know if I will have it haha).
The “problem” first and foremost is the $$$, I know that if things were $0 vs $0 I would go to Booth.
My top goal is to transition to VC/Growth Equity in the emerging markets region where I am from (EM) keeping it vague for paranoia purposes, preferably with a social impact or tech focus. If the buy-side fails I would lean to IB or entrepreneurship (open to EM or USA).
Basically this is my analysis:
Booth:
+ Booth has a good reputation and community in EM. I know that nobody would question my MBA choice if I am a finance/investor guy and I would become part of a network of finance people. This is by far my most important point compared to Kellogg.
+ Is in the city and I love cities, the possibility of eating on different restaurants, bars and always have something to do excites me.
+ Better campus and it seems to have more finance/entrepreneurship resources
+ Momentum on rankings
+/- Academics more focused to the “quant” side – every course uses a data driven analytical approach. I “drew” my 21 course curriculum and is more leaned to Finance and entrepreneurship, two things that I like. On the other hand, I see that Booth is weaker in the leadership/people management side of business compared to Kellogg. More difficult courses?
+/- Lack of “core” curriculum means less community?
- Commuter school: Walking in the cold and riding a train to Booth would make me miserable
- Are people really more nerd? I am by no means a bookworm and I enjoy drinking with people and socializing so I do not know if Booth’s stereotype is true
- Fewer international and women (than Kellogg’s)
- More expensive
Kellogg:
+ $$$ ½ ride
+ Courses more leaning towards managing people, leadership, strategy (things that I enjoy learning but are not “a must” for my goals) and a class just focused on Impact Investing that Booth does not have. Courses appear to be easier.
+ Core curriculum means more community? Hanging with the same people for courses over and over again builds rapport.
+ When I visited and the call, letter, etc Kellogg’s people communicate they care about you. They have been keeping in touch and overall seem like a great bunch of people.
+ Clubs seem more inclusive: from the Joint Ventures through the professional clubs they have called me and seem like they do care (related to past point).
+ I heard that if I write that I earned a big scholarship in my resume it looks good and attracts recruiters.
+ More fun people overall?
+/- Historical Top 5 but below Booth right now
+/- Maybe with the cash and Kellogg's style I discover that I would like to pursue something different: a role in a startup or really start something myself withouth the burden of paying a full tuition.
- Evanston although a nice town short ride to the city is not in the city. I would guess with just 5-10 restaurants or bars it would bore me. Maybe social scene more aimed to house parties?
- Grade disclosure
- Reputation: I know that if I come back to EM and try to knock the door on some fund they would say “Kellogg is a marketing school”. I know because I talked to some finance people and they already told me the same.
- Network: In EM Kellogg alumni are not really organized and the ones that I found on LinkedIn are more into management than finance. (Related to last point)
Does anyone know anything about single/partners scene at both schools?
My final option would be to reapply -- when I was researching schools Stanford and Wharton were my top choices (rejected at both without interview). I knew that Stanford was difficult to get into so when they rejected me it was not that hard to swallow but Wharton was painful. This option is stupid because I think that the difference between Wharton and Booth/Kellogg is not that big and nothing assures me that they would take me next year, so is just a thought but not really an option haha
Thinking analytically I know that half ride is a lot of money but also is not that much during a lifetime of career earnings: There are arguments for both sides: less debt or more cash but going to the school that I want to go? In 20 years I would remember the school that I went to and not that it costed me 50% more?
I have savings and plan to get a government sponsored awards ($20k) but obviously the money is nice.
Finally, I already tried to get something from Booth and they told me that “maybe after second round” so that’s after the first deposit deadline and I do not plan to deposit to both schools just to see if something happens. I am going to booth schools on the first weekend of February (First Day and DAK), maybe I’ll get a better feeling hanging there for a full day.
Sorry for the long post – needed to get this out of my mind, really appreciate your thoughts.
Thanks.
29 Dec 2015, 17:01
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What is your background? I feel like that's pretty relevant to making this decision. If you already have a background in finance you don't necessarily need to go to a finance school to build that. It also depends what you're hoping to get out of business school (personal vs. professional movement) and what kind of holes you're trying to fill by going to bschool. All else equal, Kellogg and Booth are pretty equal. Sure Kellogg might be below Booth right now in rankings, but it fluctuates every year and most people regard the schools in the same "bucket" and as peer schools. Also note that Kellogg is getting a brand new campus next year right on Lake Michigan (re one of your pros for Booth). Also Kellogg, while not a "finance school," still has great placement in finance, and of the handful of people I know from Kellogg, one was a female who ended up a Goldman IB.
I visited and loved both, but I think they're really different and liked them for very different reasons. As someone with a traditional business background, I felt more "at home" with Boothies because they came off as more polished (probably cuz they're a finance school), whereas Kellogg seemed more diverse. There were noticeably fewer females at Booth (in general, not just compared to Kellogg). As an example, at Booth, they talked about how everyone had their own excel spreadsheets to predict the class bidding process, whereas my tour guide at Kellogg found that concept pretty nerdy and intense. On the flip side, Kellogg's philosophy seemed more appealing to me. Booth seemed a bit unstructured in their classes, larger (not as close of a community), and traditional. An example of that is that when a student asked the admissions person at Kellogg about curriculum, he said "It's constantly changing every year as students propose and vote on new intiatives and changes," whereas Booth's seemed pretty set and not moving.
It sounds like you are leaning more towards Booth, but just throwing in Kellogg because they gave you money. If that's the case and you find yourself just trying to find pros about Kellogg that don't necessarily appeal to you, you should probably go to Booth. Regardless, I recommend visiting both to really get a sense of the schools before making any large decisions.
As you said, reapplying seems silly. Booth and Kellogg with $$ are both excellent choices.
I visited and loved both, but I think they're really different and liked them for very different reasons. As someone with a traditional business background, I felt more "at home" with Boothies because they came off as more polished (probably cuz they're a finance school), whereas Kellogg seemed more diverse. There were noticeably fewer females at Booth (in general, not just compared to Kellogg). As an example, at Booth, they talked about how everyone had their own excel spreadsheets to predict the class bidding process, whereas my tour guide at Kellogg found that concept pretty nerdy and intense. On the flip side, Kellogg's philosophy seemed more appealing to me. Booth seemed a bit unstructured in their classes, larger (not as close of a community), and traditional. An example of that is that when a student asked the admissions person at Kellogg about curriculum, he said "It's constantly changing every year as students propose and vote on new intiatives and changes," whereas Booth's seemed pretty set and not moving.
It sounds like you are leaning more towards Booth, but just throwing in Kellogg because they gave you money. If that's the case and you find yourself just trying to find pros about Kellogg that don't necessarily appeal to you, you should probably go to Booth. Regardless, I recommend visiting both to really get a sense of the schools before making any large decisions.
As you said, reapplying seems silly. Booth and Kellogg with $$ are both excellent choices.
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29 Dec 2015, 19:07
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I wanted to clarify some of the misinformation given by the previous poster.
Booth does not have less females than Kellogg: Booth 2017 class = 42% female, Kellogg 2017 class = 43% female.
Booth is also not larger than Kellogg (and is in fact a lot smaller) with a class size of 585 compared to 715 at Kellogg (including 1Y, MMM, JD/MBA).
While I can't speak to Kellogg's curriculum, the notion that Booth's is completely set and not moving is untrue. Booth offers the most flexible curriculum among the top schools and this year introduced several new classes including Designing a Good Life by Nicholas Epley along with the introduction of many new half unit courses.
Also, this link which provides more detail about Booth's offerings in social enterprise may be helpful - https://research.chicagobooth.edu/sei/st ... s-and-labs
Hopefully you're going to have the chance to head to Chicago for both admit weekends which should give you a much better sense of the offerings and cultures of each school. If you have any Booth specific questions, I'd be happy to answer them.
Booth does not have less females than Kellogg: Booth 2017 class = 42% female, Kellogg 2017 class = 43% female.
Booth is also not larger than Kellogg (and is in fact a lot smaller) with a class size of 585 compared to 715 at Kellogg (including 1Y, MMM, JD/MBA).
While I can't speak to Kellogg's curriculum, the notion that Booth's is completely set and not moving is untrue. Booth offers the most flexible curriculum among the top schools and this year introduced several new classes including Designing a Good Life by Nicholas Epley along with the introduction of many new half unit courses.
Also, this link which provides more detail about Booth's offerings in social enterprise may be helpful - https://research.chicagobooth.edu/sei/st ... s-and-labs
Hopefully you're going to have the chance to head to Chicago for both admit weekends which should give you a much better sense of the offerings and cultures of each school. If you have any Booth specific questions, I'd be happy to answer them.
