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Hi,

I am currently an American living and working in Hamburg. Given my work situation and desire to stay in Germany or Western Europe (or improbably back to the U.S. if an incredible job became available), the two EMBA programs I have acceptance letters for are Kellogg-WHU and ESSEC-Mannheim. Main factors are location (Germany so only minor travel), ranking, prestige in Germany/Europe and abroad, and flexibility/quality of curriculum. Also considered is the cost of both programs, with K-W nearly twice as much as Essec-Mannheim.


That said, would really like some perspective from any/all on the quality, prestige, and network of both these programs in Germany, Europe, and North America, as well as the rest of the world. Thanks in advance.
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Hi,

I am currently an American living and working in Hamburg. Given my work situation and desire to stay in Germany or Western Europe (or improbably back to the U.S. if an incredible job became available), the two EMBA programs I have acceptance letters for are Kellogg-WHU and ESSEC-Mannheim. Main factors are location (Germany so only minor travel), ranking, prestige in Germany/Europe and abroad, and flexibility/quality of curriculum. Also considered is the cost of both programs, with K-W nearly twice as much as Essec-Mannheim.


That said, would really like some perspective from any/all on the quality, prestige, and network of both these programs in Germany, Europe, and North America, as well as the rest of the world. Thanks in advance.
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Both are very good schools for EMBA. take the decision based on your comfort considering price(fee,Travel,stay). All the best :thumbup:
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Welcome to GMAT Club and Congrats on your Admits!

EMBA is largely about a few things:
1. Getting ahead at your current company (hopefully company pays for it though it seems in your case it is self-funded)
2. Networking with peers and execs for a possibility of getting on board at another company or getting a tip/recommendation from one of your classmates
3. Filling in the gaps and building up your profile

Which of these are you targeting? What are you trying to accomplish with your MBA/EMBA?
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Welcome to GMAT Club and Congrats on your Admits!

EMBA is largely about a few things:
1. Getting ahead at your current company (hopefully company pays for it though it seems in your case it is self-funded)
2. Networking with peers and execs for a possibility of getting on board at another company or getting a tip/recommendation from one of your classmates
3. Filling in the gaps and building up your profile

Which of these are you targeting? What are you trying to accomplish with your MBA/EMBA?
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It’s a combination of 2 and 3. Started as #3, but transitioning heavily to #2. Looking to move into a different field, gain more business executive knowledge, and progress to a higher level of management.

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Kellogg has many EMBA programs around the world. They partner with 5 or 10 programs to do the EMBA JVs. I feel it is successful and probably a pretty good model. I have seen the HKUST/Kellogg in action and it was plenty of team building exercises and good fun.

I think the biggest contribution they bring is the Brand and also the US style and approach and also the large network. It seems you may be able to move around and take classes in a few spots but the main advantage is likely the US style and approach to teaching.

I could see the styles being different and I can see some people lack patience with the traditional European approach to education and some preferring a diff structure and teaching approach and perhaps it being in English rather than German.

I feel you would be much more global with the Kellogg MBA, though Mannheim is known out there but it is never clear how good it is or it’s ranking whereas Kellogg is always in the Top7 and most of the time Top 5. I think if you’re looking for an MBA that you can take outside of Germany and Europe, and do you want to Tampa global network, Kellogg would be much stronger. You will likely be able to locate 10 to 20 active alarms in every major city of the world. The main question is how much will you use that network. I don’t use mine. I haven’t used mine for over 10 years. I feel in some sense you will be paying a premium for Kellogg as an insurance. At the same time it’s likely to attract more similarly global- minded individuals.

PS. In general with luxury goods, healthcare and education, people tend to choose “better” and more expensive option. I can’t say they are wrong But you can save some money if you’re OK with the EU style education and having a potentially more regional network.

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Kellogg has many EMBA programs around the world. They partner with 5 or 10 programs to do the EMBA JVs. I feel it is successful and probably a pretty good model. I have seen the HKUST/Kellogg in action and it was plenty of team building exercises and good fun.

I think the biggest contribution they bring is the Brand and also the US style and approach and also the large network. It seems you may be able to move around and take classes in a few spots but the main advantage is likely the US style and approach to teaching.

I could see the styles being different and I can see some people lack patience with the traditional European approach to education and some preferring a diff structure and teaching approach and perhaps it being in English rather than German.

I feel you would be much more global with the Kellogg MBA, though Mannheim is known out there but it is never clear how good it is or it’s ranking whereas Kellogg is always in the Top7 and most of the time Top 5. I think if you’re looking for an MBA that you can take outside of Germany and Europe, and do you want to Tampa global network, Kellogg would be much stronger. You will likely be able to locate 10 to 20 active alarms in every major city of the world. The main question is how much will you use that network. I don’t use mine. I haven’t used mine for over 10 years. I feel in some sense you will be paying a premium for Kellogg as an insurance. At the same time it’s likely to attract more similarly global- minded individuals.

PS. In general with luxury goods, healthcare and education, people tend to choose “better” and more expensive option. I can’t say they are wrong But you can save some money if you’re OK with the EU style education and having a potentially more regional network.

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Much of what you're saying is what has crossed my mind, and why I'm leaning towards Kellogg-WHU, although Mannheim Business School seems to be the program that tries harder, in general. Combination of American and EU education styles, curriculums, networks, etc. I won't need to take any loans for either of the programs most likely (other than leveraging low interest loans to keep the money I have working). Thanks for your thoughts!
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It’s always a challenge to compare an American school to European schools. Business schools are not a output of teaching at the school, but also an output of the economy of the region it is in and an output of the strength of media that covers it. With a significantly larger number of people around the world reading English news and a significant number of multi billion $ businesses based out of USA, American schools have a better perception.

I personally think that both the schools are equally good-you should talk to your future employers and recruiters and head hunters in the region to know their opinion. FT, Bloomberg, US news rankings aren’t trustworthy, they give no insight into their survey numbers, sample they survey or even completeness.

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