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Situation: I am in the very lucky position of having been accepted to Wharton and Booth, but I am waiting on a decision from MIT Sloan. I visited both Wharton and Sloan and got a slightly better feeling from Sloan than Wharton. I was not able to visit Booth.
Background: 40-year-old SEAL Officer transitioning out of active duty in July of 2026. Intend to use an Executive MBA program to facilitate my transition. No previous business experience. Undergraduate degree in Mechanical Engineering.
Test Score: Executive Assessment: 161
Post MBA Goal: Uncertain, but I am very interested in clean/renewable energy generation and storage. I believe a role in operations at a new/start-up company would be a good fit to leverage my previous work/leadership experience in high-pressure organizations and my interest/undergraduate background in technology.
Wharton:
Pros:
• Brand Recognition
• Alumni support network
• Lodging and meals included
• Geographically convenient to commute to from D.C.
• Broad breadth of experience in education and cohort (tech, finance, real-estate, etc) which would be useful in not getting pigeon holed in an area if I find my interests shift once I start.
Cons:
• Wharton is an outstanding institution but MIT seems to have a better reputation in tech where a lot of my interests lie.
• Perception is that Wharton is more finance centric.
• Has GI Bill and Yellow Ribbon but not full coverage resulting in a net cost to me of ~$30k.
• Philly isn’t the nicest city these days.
• Deposit due 11JAN24 which is before MIT Sloan decision date
Booth:
Pros:
• Brand Recognition
• Global New Venture Challenge seems like the exact type of program I would want to participate in.
• Full GI Bill and Yellow Ribbon coverage so no cost to me.
• Chicago is a great city
Cons:
• Lodging and meals not included
• More geographically challenging to travel to from D.C. than Wharton
• Deposit due 05JAN24 which is before MIT Sloan decision date
MIT Sloan:
Pros:
• MIT writ large is world renowned for tech
• Opportunity to work with engineers at MIT who are developing new tech and bring it to market
• Full GI Bill and Yellow Ribbon coverage so no cost to me.
• Possibly relocating to Boston after the Navy
• Boston is a great city
Cons:
• Late decision (Feb 24) for Sloan will necessitate a deposit at Wharton ($2500) or Booth ($5000) to hold a spot in the event I’m not admitted
• Sloan specifically is perhaps less well known for MBA programs outside of Tech arena, which may present challenges if I find my interests change after starting.
• Lodging and meals not included
• Will need to take a $700 statistics course to meet prerequisites prior to matriculation
• More geographically challenging to travel to from D.C. than Wharton
Background: 40-year-old SEAL Officer transitioning out of active duty in July of 2026. Intend to use an Executive MBA program to facilitate my transition. No previous business experience. Undergraduate degree in Mechanical Engineering.
Test Score: Executive Assessment: 161
Post MBA Goal: Uncertain, but I am very interested in clean/renewable energy generation and storage. I believe a role in operations at a new/start-up company would be a good fit to leverage my previous work/leadership experience in high-pressure organizations and my interest/undergraduate background in technology.
Wharton:
Pros:
• Brand Recognition
• Alumni support network
• Lodging and meals included
• Geographically convenient to commute to from D.C.
• Broad breadth of experience in education and cohort (tech, finance, real-estate, etc) which would be useful in not getting pigeon holed in an area if I find my interests shift once I start.
Cons:
• Wharton is an outstanding institution but MIT seems to have a better reputation in tech where a lot of my interests lie.
• Perception is that Wharton is more finance centric.
• Has GI Bill and Yellow Ribbon but not full coverage resulting in a net cost to me of ~$30k.
• Philly isn’t the nicest city these days.
• Deposit due 11JAN24 which is before MIT Sloan decision date
Booth:
Pros:
• Brand Recognition
• Global New Venture Challenge seems like the exact type of program I would want to participate in.
• Full GI Bill and Yellow Ribbon coverage so no cost to me.
• Chicago is a great city
Cons:
• Lodging and meals not included
• More geographically challenging to travel to from D.C. than Wharton
• Deposit due 05JAN24 which is before MIT Sloan decision date
MIT Sloan:
Pros:
• MIT writ large is world renowned for tech
• Opportunity to work with engineers at MIT who are developing new tech and bring it to market
• Full GI Bill and Yellow Ribbon coverage so no cost to me.
• Possibly relocating to Boston after the Navy
• Boston is a great city
Cons:
• Late decision (Feb 24) for Sloan will necessitate a deposit at Wharton ($2500) or Booth ($5000) to hold a spot in the event I’m not admitted
• Sloan specifically is perhaps less well known for MBA programs outside of Tech arena, which may present challenges if I find my interests change after starting.
• Lodging and meals not included
• Will need to take a $700 statistics course to meet prerequisites prior to matriculation
• More geographically challenging to travel to from D.C. than Wharton
10 Jan 2024, 17:49
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Out of curiosity - which school did you choose?
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11 Jan 2024, 19:16
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Sorry TNS13151. I missed this topic…. Christmas and everything.
Interesting, I have not seen active duty signing up for the executive programs so it’s a pretty unique move but I think a pretty clever one. Are you able to get the blue ribbon or some of the other benefits to cover the tuition cost? I guess it doesn’t matter a whole lot since most of these have the same price tag. I would say that all of these programs would want to have you as a student and while they don’t offer scholarships really, I think this is a unique case that if there are some expenses that are not covered by the US Navy benefits, you may be able to negotiate or get some thing in thrown in. 🤷♂️
For the executive program, the main benefit and value you will get is your classmates and their connections. This will be your large team and network that you can leverage the most it will be your first resource. While alumni is a helpful aspect, it’s kind of the same as people who already discharged, their mind is somewhere else and they’re doing something else and there are a different phase of life so they won’t be quite as helpful as your classmates, who will be able to refer you to their current employers or former employers or would like to hire you on their team. What’s the result, it’s worth picking the largest program and the one where you can fit in best with your goals. If for example the entire cohort is focused on a geographic area or particular industry that appeals to you, then that’s better than the cohort it’s may be focused on a completely different industry. Also, it’s important to have some time to network and connect with your classmates. I’m not sure if you’re based in DC or Virginia Beach but if you have to be the one who flies in last minute and takes off first chance he has, then you don’t really have an opportunity to build connectionsand those are important. It’s also helpful if you have people who live in your city or your area to work on group projects or just commiserate together. So you’re not limited just to zoom calls.
These programs are going to be time intensive. You’ll be short on time and juggling priorities between work, school, and recruiting. If you have family, pile that on top. As the result the better logistics usually wins. I know some people can do a ton of work on planes and actually prefer to travel so they’re not distracted and more focused but if you have to commute monthly and It’s a pain, that is a consideration to have, especially if tickets are more expensive than hotels are expensive, it adds up.
I don’t know that MIT is not really well known. Sloan as a program is probably less know than MIT but University of Chicago and Booth have a weaker brand recognition than MIT. Especially internationally, MIT brand will be the strongest.
PS. Thank you for your service and sacrifice of your time. I know from random stories how rare it is to be an officer in the teams and that sometimes you don’t get to do the fun job of writing in the turret and you get “sirh” comments from the enlisted guys but really appreciate your service and sacrifices and what you do. Any other questions please do not hesitate.
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Interesting, I have not seen active duty signing up for the executive programs so it’s a pretty unique move but I think a pretty clever one. Are you able to get the blue ribbon or some of the other benefits to cover the tuition cost? I guess it doesn’t matter a whole lot since most of these have the same price tag. I would say that all of these programs would want to have you as a student and while they don’t offer scholarships really, I think this is a unique case that if there are some expenses that are not covered by the US Navy benefits, you may be able to negotiate or get some thing in thrown in. 🤷♂️
For the executive program, the main benefit and value you will get is your classmates and their connections. This will be your large team and network that you can leverage the most it will be your first resource. While alumni is a helpful aspect, it’s kind of the same as people who already discharged, their mind is somewhere else and they’re doing something else and there are a different phase of life so they won’t be quite as helpful as your classmates, who will be able to refer you to their current employers or former employers or would like to hire you on their team. What’s the result, it’s worth picking the largest program and the one where you can fit in best with your goals. If for example the entire cohort is focused on a geographic area or particular industry that appeals to you, then that’s better than the cohort it’s may be focused on a completely different industry. Also, it’s important to have some time to network and connect with your classmates. I’m not sure if you’re based in DC or Virginia Beach but if you have to be the one who flies in last minute and takes off first chance he has, then you don’t really have an opportunity to build connectionsand those are important. It’s also helpful if you have people who live in your city or your area to work on group projects or just commiserate together. So you’re not limited just to zoom calls.
These programs are going to be time intensive. You’ll be short on time and juggling priorities between work, school, and recruiting. If you have family, pile that on top. As the result the better logistics usually wins. I know some people can do a ton of work on planes and actually prefer to travel so they’re not distracted and more focused but if you have to commute monthly and It’s a pain, that is a consideration to have, especially if tickets are more expensive than hotels are expensive, it adds up.
I don’t know that MIT is not really well known. Sloan as a program is probably less know than MIT but University of Chicago and Booth have a weaker brand recognition than MIT. Especially internationally, MIT brand will be the strongest.
PS. Thank you for your service and sacrifice of your time. I know from random stories how rare it is to be an officer in the teams and that sometimes you don’t get to do the fun job of writing in the turret and you get “sirh” comments from the enlisted guys but really appreciate your service and sacrifices and what you do. Any other questions please do not hesitate.
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