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Thank you Mike for pointing that out. I do need to straighten out my concepts of using articles correctly and I have that in my list. It takes first priority after your comment today :)

Ok, I do get the concept of non vital modifier and thus the usage of comma - as explained by you. But as you mentioned "most of the time", could you please provide me with one example using modifier "including" or any other additive phrase where we are using additive phrase as vital modifier.

Non vital usage below -
Spices, including salt and pepper, are added to the dish.

Also "The secretary, as well as the mayor is joining the party."
I think the above is incorrect because secretary is the subject here and no comma after mayor is suggesting that "clause is referring to the mayor rather than the secretary. Right?
Dear sa2222,
No example leaps to mind of an additive phrase that would act as a vital noun modifier. I am not sure whether it is possible, given the very nature of an additive phrase. Perhaps it should be "all the time", not "most of the time," but I am not 100% sure on that. If there is an exception, its rare and bizarre. For GMAT SC purposes, I think we can say --- additive phrases are always non-vital, and therefore are always set off by commas.

And yes, if a phrase needs to be set off in commas, and we omit the second comma, that's a big problem.
Mike :-)
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Thank you Mike for pointing that out. I do need to straighten out my concepts of using articles correctly and I have that in my list. It takes first priority after your comment today :)

Ok, I do get the concept of non vital modifier and thus the usage of comma - as explained by you. But as you mentioned "most of the time", could you please provide me with one example using modifier "including" or any other additive phrase where we are using additive phrase as vital modifier.

Non vital usage below -
Spices, including salt and pepper, are added to the dish.

Also "The secretary, as well as the mayor is joining the party."
I think the above is incorrect because secretary is the subject here and no comma after mayor is suggesting that "clause is referring to the mayor rather than the secretary. Right?
Dear sa2222,
No example leaps to mind of an additive phrase that would act as a vital noun modifier. I am not sure whether it is possible, given the very nature of an additive phrase. Perhaps it should be "all the time", not "most of the time," but I am not 100% sure on that. If there is an exception, its rare and bizarre. For GMAT SC purposes, I think we can say --- additive phrases are always non-vital, and therefore are always set off by commas.

And yes, if a phrase needs to be set off in commas, and we omit the second comma, that's a big problem.
Mike :-)


OK, thank you Mike. I truly appreciate your time.

Thank you so much!!