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DropBear
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28 Jul 2015, 01:03
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Hi Everyone,
Not really sure where to start here, so I guess I will just jump right in and tell you a bit about myself. I am an Australian who joined the military right out of high school and did not attend university. I served for 10 years and have had an accomplished with about 6 years in leadership/management positions. I was in a highly technical/analytical/intelligence role which involved very intensive academic training at the start of my career. I have since left the military and joined a very large international company in an engineering role.
over the last 6 months I have contacted business schools all over the world to try and find one with the right fit for me as well as the admissions flexibility to accept application without a college diploma. Lucky for me There was a handful of very well known European schools that gladly excepted my CV and would accept my application if I could demonstrate academic capacity through a competitive GMAT score (generally speaking at least in the 75th percentile for Q & V)
About 2 months ago I commenced studying with the Magoosh online platform, due to work/life commitments I have been a little patchy with my study but have been aiming for between 5-10 hours per week which is have been able to manage most of the time. I took my first practice test today and received a 620 (Q44, V31), which according to the software puts me in the 69th percentile overall 63rd for Quant and 59th for verbal. I would say that I am not really happy nor disappointed with this score. I suspected I would need more time overall than most given my lack of mathematical training so still have many months in order to get a "good" score.
Apologies for this being such a long story, but just wondering if anyone has advice from their own experiences of where I should be looking to go from here. I have just recently finished all of the magoosh online lessons and they were fantastic. Other than just going over and over all of the questions again and again, what else can I do to gain stronger familiarity with all of the different question types? I have access to the MGMAT books as well as the OG and the additional Verbal and Quantitative books.
I also have a fairly good grasp of where my strength and weaknesses lie, I'm just not really sure to attack them specifically. Should I just try and tailor make practice full of hard questions I am struggling with? should I watch the videos again? should I read the MGMAT materials for those topics? should I just read them all anyway? How should I be using my error log? What's the best way to look at questions I have got wrong in the past?
I thank you all in advance for your help. I am just feeling a little misguided and lost at the moment with my GMAT journey. I am a positive optimist though and am attacking this with the right attitude and am still encouraged by my progress so far.
Thanks!
Not really sure where to start here, so I guess I will just jump right in and tell you a bit about myself. I am an Australian who joined the military right out of high school and did not attend university. I served for 10 years and have had an accomplished with about 6 years in leadership/management positions. I was in a highly technical/analytical/intelligence role which involved very intensive academic training at the start of my career. I have since left the military and joined a very large international company in an engineering role.
over the last 6 months I have contacted business schools all over the world to try and find one with the right fit for me as well as the admissions flexibility to accept application without a college diploma. Lucky for me There was a handful of very well known European schools that gladly excepted my CV and would accept my application if I could demonstrate academic capacity through a competitive GMAT score (generally speaking at least in the 75th percentile for Q & V)
About 2 months ago I commenced studying with the Magoosh online platform, due to work/life commitments I have been a little patchy with my study but have been aiming for between 5-10 hours per week which is have been able to manage most of the time. I took my first practice test today and received a 620 (Q44, V31), which according to the software puts me in the 69th percentile overall 63rd for Quant and 59th for verbal. I would say that I am not really happy nor disappointed with this score. I suspected I would need more time overall than most given my lack of mathematical training so still have many months in order to get a "good" score.
Apologies for this being such a long story, but just wondering if anyone has advice from their own experiences of where I should be looking to go from here. I have just recently finished all of the magoosh online lessons and they were fantastic. Other than just going over and over all of the questions again and again, what else can I do to gain stronger familiarity with all of the different question types? I have access to the MGMAT books as well as the OG and the additional Verbal and Quantitative books.
I also have a fairly good grasp of where my strength and weaknesses lie, I'm just not really sure to attack them specifically. Should I just try and tailor make practice full of hard questions I am struggling with? should I watch the videos again? should I read the MGMAT materials for those topics? should I just read them all anyway? How should I be using my error log? What's the best way to look at questions I have got wrong in the past?
I thank you all in advance for your help. I am just feeling a little misguided and lost at the moment with my GMAT journey. I am a positive optimist though and am attacking this with the right attitude and am still encouraged by my progress so far.
Thanks!
28 Jul 2015, 14:53
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Dear DropBear,
I'm happy to respond.
I'm very glad that you found the Magoosh online lessons helpful. I assume you already know about other Magoosh resources, such as the study cards:
https://gmat.magoosh.com/flashcards/idioms
https://gmat.magoosh.com/flashcards/math
The MGMAT books are, of course, excellent. The OG books & Review books are excellent sources of problems. I would give a big green light to those avenues.
Here's what I'll say also. The philosopher Ludwig Wittgenstein said, "We do not know what we do not know." This is very much true in learning math. Go back to your error log, and dive deep into each problem. Even if you think you understand why you got a problem wrong, don't be satisfied with that: instead, assume that whatever part of it you understand is only a tip of the iceberg. Come to GMAT Club and ask about each problem. Search for the problems here before posting a brand new thread, because almost all official math questions and many Magoosh questions have already been posted. Post or find the question, and explain in detail how you approached the problem as well as what you think is right and wrong about solving the problem. Give the experts ample information about how you thought about the problem, and ask for their feedback. You are welcome to request my feedback, using the "mention this user" tab. Allow experts to stretch your understanding. Right now, in your learning process, the worst possible block to deeper understanding is a rush to the feeling of "I understand it." Here are some blogs to consider:
https://magoosh.com/gmat/2012/understand ... rformance/
https://magoosh.com/gmat/2013/gmat-strat ... -problems/
https://magoosh.com/gmat/2014/asking-ex ... questions/
https://magoosh.com/gmat/2014/gmat-study ... 0-or-more/
Does all this make sense?
Mike
I'm happy to respond.
I'm very glad that you found the Magoosh online lessons helpful. I assume you already know about other Magoosh resources, such as the study cards: https://gmat.magoosh.com/flashcards/idioms
https://gmat.magoosh.com/flashcards/math
The MGMAT books are, of course, excellent. The OG books & Review books are excellent sources of problems. I would give a big green light to those avenues.
Here's what I'll say also. The philosopher Ludwig Wittgenstein said, "We do not know what we do not know." This is very much true in learning math. Go back to your error log, and dive deep into each problem. Even if you think you understand why you got a problem wrong, don't be satisfied with that: instead, assume that whatever part of it you understand is only a tip of the iceberg. Come to GMAT Club and ask about each problem. Search for the problems here before posting a brand new thread, because almost all official math questions and many Magoosh questions have already been posted. Post or find the question, and explain in detail how you approached the problem as well as what you think is right and wrong about solving the problem. Give the experts ample information about how you thought about the problem, and ask for their feedback. You are welcome to request my feedback, using the "mention this user" tab. Allow experts to stretch your understanding. Right now, in your learning process, the worst possible block to deeper understanding is a rush to the feeling of "I understand it." Here are some blogs to consider:
https://magoosh.com/gmat/2012/understand ... rformance/
https://magoosh.com/gmat/2013/gmat-strat ... -problems/
https://magoosh.com/gmat/2014/asking-ex ... questions/
https://magoosh.com/gmat/2014/gmat-study ... 0-or-more/
Does all this make sense?
Mike
DropBear
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29 Jul 2015, 02:11
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Mike,
Thanks for the reply. I must say, after listening to your voice almost non stop for the last few weeks on the magoosh platform it's great to finally meet you
I agree with what you are saying about seeking a deep understanding of math. I certainly don't want to simple re-create what I saw on previous question or video, I want to understand the problems fully so I can solve them in many different ways. I think part of it goes back to hating getting things wrong which I obviously need to get over. I love doing geometry and usually don't get them wrong so would say I have a deep understanding of that, whereas integer properties and general number theory I have learned some of the processes but don't have an deep understanding a lot of the time of why something is the way it is and can absolutely confirm the analogy of the tip of the iceberg. I think that is a very accurate and fair assessment of my knowledge in a lot of areas.
I hadn't previously known about the mention this user feature and will certainly take you up on that as I see questions that baffle me.
Thank you as well for highlighting those blog posts for me. I will start digesting those too.
Cheers,
Thanks for the reply. I must say, after listening to your voice almost non stop for the last few weeks on the magoosh platform it's great to finally meet you
I agree with what you are saying about seeking a deep understanding of math. I certainly don't want to simple re-create what I saw on previous question or video, I want to understand the problems fully so I can solve them in many different ways. I think part of it goes back to hating getting things wrong which I obviously need to get over. I love doing geometry and usually don't get them wrong so would say I have a deep understanding of that, whereas integer properties and general number theory I have learned some of the processes but don't have an deep understanding a lot of the time of why something is the way it is and can absolutely confirm the analogy of the tip of the iceberg. I think that is a very accurate and fair assessment of my knowledge in a lot of areas.
I hadn't previously known about the mention this user feature and will certainly take you up on that as I see questions that baffle me.
Thank you as well for highlighting those blog posts for me. I will start digesting those too.
Cheers,
