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Talk about splitting SC hairs! Believe it or not, there is a certain concept being tested here. I have both the OA and OE for this one, but will not :wink: divulge it until a fellow member can EXPLAIN the correct answer in his/her own words. This one is gonna ruminate...

These are the times that try men's souls.

A. These are the times that try men's souls.
B. Times like these try men's souls.
C. How trying it is on men's souls to live in these times.
D. These are trying times for men's souls.
E. Soulwise, these are trying times for men.



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Yes it seems to be a tricky one.Confused between A and B.I go with (B)
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These are the times that try men's souls.

A. These are the times that try men's souls.
B. Times like these try men's souls.
C. How trying it is on men's souls to live in these times.
D. These are trying times for men's souls.
E. Soulwise, these are trying times for men.


Don't understand exactly what this means but here is my attempt:

A. OK because grammaticaly correct
B. correct but changes the meaning
C. Wordy and grammaticaly false
D. trying times for mens souls - totally false
E. clearly false
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These are the times that try men's souls.

A. These are the times that try men's souls.
B. Times like these try men's souls.
C. How trying it is on men's souls to live in these times.
D. These are trying times for men's souls.
E. Soulwise, these are trying times for men.
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Straight A
"These are the times that try men's souls" Thomas Paine
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A 2
Correct , b changes the meaning...
Other options are wordy
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Yeah times like these changes the meaning.

A...don't mess with T. Paine
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I will go with B - "Times like these try men's souls."

I think the stress is on giving an example. Moreover "times that try" does not sound right.
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Yeah A with help :)

A https://www.ushistory.org/Paine/crisis/c-01.htm .

These are the times (Refers to a period in time. )

Times like these ( Doesn't convey the meaning clearly )
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These are the times that try men's souls.

A. These are the times that try men's souls.
B. Times like these try men's souls.
C. How trying it is on men's souls to live in these times.
D. These are trying times for men's souls.
E. Soulwise, these are trying times for men.
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This one is really wicked matt. Where did you find it? or are did u start making sc questions like kevincan who makes those math qs, i am always like :roll: when i look at those math qs :(

Ok I think its A because that is the only one that is gramatically correct. Immediately a bell rung in my head that hey isn't it similar to the sentence structure of something like this: Those were the days when...

In this sentence the usage of that is very important for this sentence to make sense, what is the importance of these times.
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will go with A. lesser of the evil.

But I am feeling may be its correct for reason like idiom or some quote.
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I feel every sentence except C is grammatically correct.
As far as GMAT is concerned, the correct option should be either A or B.
Is it B for conciseness??

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D sounds idiomatic to me.

D sounds similar to "This is a testing time for him"
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C,D,E are out.
A or B hmmm. I find B more appealing but there is nothing wrong with original stem. A is my choice.
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I am not good at explanations, but D jumped out as the probable answer.
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CAUTION : This is a dissection with courage :-D

These are the times that try men's souls.

A. These are the times that try men's souls.

that introducing sub clause...Correct


B. Times like these try men's souls.

these is a possessive and there is no clear antecedent

C. How trying it is on men's souls to live in these times.
trying and to live not parallel

D. These are trying times for men's souls.
Same as B

E. Soulwise, these are trying times for men.

Invert the sentence
these are trying times for men soulwise
Awkward and ambiguous

A stands
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CAUTION : This is a dissection with courage :-D

These are the times that try men's souls.

A. These are the times that try men's souls.

that introducing sub clause...Correct


B. Times like these try men's souls.

these is a possessive and there is no clear antecedent

C. How trying it is on men's souls to live in these times.
trying and to live not parallel

D. These are trying times for men's souls.
Same as B

E. Soulwise, these are trying times for men.

Invert the sentence
these are trying times for men soulwise
Awkward and ambiguous

A stands
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This was the explanation we were waiting for. The sentence is clear and direct, testing GMAT style cadence and the correct use/positioning of "that."

OA is (A) and Comrade Yurik nailed the original source.
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D for me.

I rule out A becos it says that times try men's souls.



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