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Several years ago the diet industry introduced a variety of appetite suppressants, but some of these drugs caused stomach disorders severe enough to have them banned by the Food and Drug Administration.

(A) stomach disorders severe enough to have them
(B) stomach disorders that were severe enough so they were
(C) stomach disorders of such severity so as to be
(D) such severe stomach disorders that they were
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Between A and D, I go for D. I feel them is ambiguous where as they is not
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This is really a nice question.
To be frank, I don't like any of the given options.
However, I would go with D. Although in D, "they" looks ambiguous.

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This is really a nice question.
To be frank, I don't like any of the given options.
However, I would go with D. Although in D, "they" looks ambiguous.

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Brajesh, I don't think "they" is ambigous in D. The clause after "that" can't be referring to disorders. It has to be drugs.

D in my opinion.
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This is really a nice question.
To be frank, I don't like any of the given options.
However, I would go with D. Although in D, "they" looks ambiguous.

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Brajesh, I don't think "they" is ambigous in D. The clause after "that" can't be referring to disorders. It has to be drugs.

D in my opinion.
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that restricts they to modify stomach disorders. D is definitely wrong.
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A. 'them' is misleading and referring to disorders instead of suppressants.
B. Did not like the use of 'sever enough' in A and same goes here. 'They' is misleading.
C. 'So as to be' is always wrong. Right idiom 'So X As to (be) Y'.
D. Use of 'that' making 'they' point to suppressant. Our Answer.
E. 'Such X as to be' is not a right idiom.
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Several years ago the diet industry introduced a variety of appetite suppressants, but some of these drugs caused stomach disorders severe enough to have them banned by the Food and Drug Administration.

(A) stomach disorders severe enough to have them

(B) stomach disorders that were severe enough so they were

(C) stomach disorders of such severity so as to be
so as to is always wrong.
The correct idiom is so X as to Y.

(D) such severe stomach disorders that they were

(E) such severe stomach disorders as to be

I dont know what the OA is but I think it is E.

Such + noun + as to + base verb
Her voice is filled with such beauty as to draw my breath away.

can you tell us the source of this question?
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SC1000. The OA says D, which is wrong. I only post questions that have not been posted or that I don't agree with the answer.

E is the answer.

Here is my official reason.

https://www.urch.com/forums/7100-post7.html
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Several years ago the diet industry introduced a variety of appetite suppressants, but some of these drugs caused stomach disorders severe enough to have them banned by the Food and Drug Administration.

(A) stomach disorders severe enough to have them
(B) stomach disorders that were severe enough so they were
(C) stomach disorders of such severity so as to be
(D) such severe stomach disorders that they were
(E) such severe stomach disorders as to be
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I don't think there's ambiguity of they in D - look at non-underlined part (banned by the food and drug admin - stomach disorders could not have been banned by the FDA

Such --- as to be is not idiomatic.

Such (Noun) as to is..
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Several years ago the diet industry introduced a variety of appetite suppressants, but some of these drugs caused stomach disorders severe enough to have them banned by the Food and Drug Administration.

(A) stomach disorders severe enough to have them
(B) stomach disorders that were severe enough so they were
(C) stomach disorders of such severity so as to be
(D) such severe stomach disorders that they were
(E) such severe stomach disorders as to be

I don't think there's ambiguity of they in D - look at non-underlined part (banned by the food and drug admin - stomach disorders could not have been banned by the FDA

Such --- as to be is not idiomatic.

Such (Noun) as to is..
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If their is no ambiguity in 'they' then whats wrong with A in using 'them'??
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Several years ago the diet industry introduced a variety of appetite suppressants, but some of these drugs caused stomach disorders severe enough to have them banned by the Food and Drug Administration.

(A) stomach disorders severe enough to have them
(B) stomach disorders that were severe enough so they were
(C) stomach disorders of such severity so as to be
(D) such severe stomach disorders that they were
(E) such severe stomach disorders as to be

I don't think there's ambiguity of they in D - look at non-underlined part (banned by the food and drug admin - stomach disorders could not have been banned by the FDA

Such --- as to be is not idiomatic.

Such (Noun) as to is..

If their is no ambiguity in 'they' then whats wrong with A in using 'them'??
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The problem with A is that "to have them banned" is passive.
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Excellent thread, bmwhype2!!

If I had a better choice I wouldn't have gone with D but I have never seen 'such X as to be Y' used anywhere. So, stuck with D, which, though, is NOT non-ambigous, IMO, but a BEST available choice.

Lets keep the good ones coming!
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Excellent thread, bmwhype2!!

If I had a better choice I wouldn't have gone with D but I have never seen 'such X as to be Y' used anywhere. So, stuck with D, which, though, is NOT non-ambigous, IMO, but a BEST available choice.

Lets keep the good ones coming!
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Second time around, I think the OA of D is correct. An idiom does not make the sentence correct. E is passive compared to the "forcefulness" of D.

Live and learn...
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Excellent thread, bmwhype2!!

If I had a better choice I wouldn't have gone with D but I have never seen 'such X as to be Y' used anywhere. So, stuck with D, which, though, is NOT non-ambigous, IMO, but a BEST available choice.

Lets keep the good ones coming!

Second time around, I think the OA of D is correct. An idiom does not make the sentence correct. E is passive compared to the "forcefulness" of D.

Live and learn...
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I think both D and E are passive...D has 'were banned' and E has 'to be banned'...then may be the idiom is the main factor...any thoughts??
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Excellent thread, bmwhype2!!

If I had a better choice I wouldn't have gone with D but I have never seen 'such X as to be Y' used anywhere. So, stuck with D, which, though, is NOT non-ambigous, IMO, but a BEST available choice.

Lets keep the good ones coming!

Second time around, I think the OA of D is correct. An idiom does not make the sentence correct. E is passive compared to the "forcefulness" of D.

Live and learn...

I think both D and E are passive...D has 'were banned' and E has 'to be banned'...then may be the idiom is the main factor...any thoughts??
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I agree. The answer choices are problematic once again. Why should D be correct over E or some other choices?
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Excellent thread, bmwhype2!!

If I had a better choice I wouldn't have gone with D but I have never seen 'such X as to be Y' used anywhere. So, stuck with D, which, though, is NOT non-ambigous, IMO, but a BEST available choice.

Lets keep the good ones coming!

Second time around, I think the OA of D is correct. An idiom does not make the sentence correct. E is passive compared to the "forcefulness" of D.

Live and learn...

I think both D and E are passive...D has 'were banned' and E has 'to be banned'...then may be the idiom is the main factor...any thoughts??

I agree. The answer choices are problematic once again. Why should D be correct over E or some other choices?
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well..

they are both passive, but D introduces an additional pronoun referent problem (although common sense tells us it must refer to the drugs). we technically should avoid this type of error. So ...E. :shock:
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Several years ago the diet industry introduced a variety of appetite suppressants, but some of these drugs caused stomach disorders severe enough to have them banned by the Food and Drug Administration.

(A) stomach disorders severe enough to have them
(B) stomach disorders that were severe enough so they were
(C) stomach disorders of such severity so as to be
(D) such severe stomach disorders that they were
(E) such severe stomach disorders as to be

I don't think there's ambiguity of they in D - look at non-underlined part (banned by the food and drug admin - stomach disorders could not have been banned by the FDA

Such --- as to be is not idiomatic.

Such (Noun) as to is..

If their is no ambiguity in 'they' then whats wrong with A in using 'them'??
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IMO, A lacks 'that' also i have not seen in GMAT choices like 'severe enough' to be ever right but that is a minor issue.
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Reliazed my mistake it .... thanks for posting 'Erin's explantion
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I think E is the only which does not have that ambiguous "E".
so, E

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I go with C. "Caused Stomach Disorders" seems to me as the main point of the passage.
However, I really can't come up with a proper explanation grammatically or idiomatically to prove one better than the other.
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A seems better than the other choices available

I would cross out D and E on the first go. Such severe is too awkward.



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