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I have a question about this status; (1) The minimum number of candies one must pick from the jar to ensure getting at least one candy of each color is 25.

I understood that there should be 24 same candies, but I thought it could be red like this-
G:R=64:24

If there are 24 red candies, wouldn't it be possible to draw one green candy after drawing all the red candies? 64:24 is also a ratio of 3/11.

Please help me! Thanks.
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I have a question about this status; (1) The minimum number of candies one must pick from the jar to ensure getting at least one candy of each color is 25.

I understood that there should be 24 same candies, but I thought it could be red like this-
G:R=64:24

If there are 24 red candies, wouldn't it be possible to draw one green candy after drawing all the red candies? 64:24 is also a ratio of 3/11.

Please help me! Thanks.
No. Having 64 green candies and 24 red candies won't satisfy the first statement. In this case the minimum number of candies one must pick from the jar to ensure getting at least one candy of each color would be 64 + 1 = 65.

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Now I fully understood; If there are 64 green candies, there is no guarantee that the 25th candy drawn will be a red candy. Because even after drawing 24 of the 64 green candies, there are still 40 green candies left. I was a fool lol

Thanks a lot Bunuel!
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I think that equation (l) still doesn't solve the equation as the question remains if the number of red candies are 24 or 9. The statement is saying that minimum number of candies one must pick to ensure both type of candies are picked is 25. Then 24 can either be red candies or green candies. If 24 are green candies than red candies would be 9 and vice versa.
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I think that equation (l) still doesn't solve the equation as the question remains if the number of red candies are 24 or 9. The statement is saying that minimum number of candies one must pick to ensure both type of candies are picked is 25. Then 24 can either be red candies or green candies. If 24 are green candies than red candies would be 9 and vice versa.

No, the color with more candies must be the one you can pick 24 times without getting both colors. Since the green-to-red ratio is 8:3, green candies are more numerous. Thus, the 24 candies must be green, not red. Also, if Red = 24 and Green = 64, the minimum number of picks needed to ensure both colors would be 64 + 1 = 65, not 25. So Red cannot be 24. Please review carefully.
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I like the solution - it’s helpful.
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Bunuel while rare but it is not impossible to get 24 red candies first and the 25th being green even if green is in majority. So from first statement, we know that ONE of the colored candies is 24 in number in the bowl. I dont think we can for sure say that its only green because there are more of those.
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No, the color with more candies must be the one you can pick 24 times without getting both colors. Since the green-to-red ratio is 8:3, green candies are more numerous. Thus, the 24 candies must be green, not red. Also, if Red = 24 and Green = 64, the minimum number of picks needed to ensure both colors would be 64 + 1 = 65, not 25. So Red cannot be 24. Please review carefully.
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Bunuel while rare but it is not impossible to get 24 red candies first and the 25th being green even if green is in majority. So from first statement, we know that ONE of the colored candies is 24 in number in the bowl. I dont think we can for sure say that its only green because there are more of those.


You’re mixing “possible” with “guaranteed.”

“Minimum number to ensure both colors” is computed in the worst-case draw: you could pull all candies of the more numerous color first, then one more pick forces the other color. With ratio 8:3, green is always the majority. So the worst-case run is all greens. If the minimum is 25, the majority count must be 24. Hence greens = 24, and by 8:3, one part is 3, so reds = 9.

Your “24 reds first” scenario is irrelevant to the guarantee and also incompatible with the data: if red = 24, then by 8:3 green = 64, and the minimum to ensure both would be 64 + 1 = 65, not 25.

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This is a great question that’s helpful for learning.
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I don’t quite agree with the solution. So, the minimum being 25 indicates that there are 24 green candies in the jar -> How can one assume this, that there are 24 green candies in the jar when colour of candy is not mentioned in the statement. It could be either green or red, if it's green then red colour candies are 9, if it is red then there are 64 green candies, there by maintain the ratio as well as the condition that minimum 25 candies need to be picked to ensure both colour candies.
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I don’t quite agree with the solution. So, the minimum being 25 indicates that there are 24 green candies in the jar -> How can one assume this, that there are 24 green candies in the jar when colour of candy is not mentioned in the statement. It could be either green or red, if it's green then red colour candies are 9, if it is red then there are 64 green candies, there by maintain the ratio as well as the condition that minimum 25 candies need to be picked to ensure both colour candies.
I tried elaborating the solution in a few posts above, so please go through them. I also included links to similar questions that can help you understand the concept and practice it. Check those questions as well for additional context.
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