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29 Nov 2016, 10:56
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According to what I have got till now after extensive research:
There are three situations where "would" is used:
1. Future with respect to past.
2. Hypothetical subjunctive.
3. If-else clause.
Can anyone clarify my following doubts:
1. In "if clause" if we use 2nd or 3rd form of the verb, then in else clause "would" should come and with first form "will" should come. Is vice-versa of this rule always wrong?
Eg. If he eats, he would fall sick. (right or wrong)
If he ate tomorrow, he will fall sick. (right or wrong)
2. Is will always wrong in future with respect to past?
3. Is there any other situation where we could use "would"? If I want to predict future with respect to present can I use "would"?
4. In hypothetical subjunctive is "will" always wrong?
could any Gmat instructor or any expert clarify on this please. It would help a lot of gmat students worldwide.
Thanks!!
There are three situations where "would" is used:
1. Future with respect to past.
2. Hypothetical subjunctive.
3. If-else clause.
Can anyone clarify my following doubts:
1. In "if clause" if we use 2nd or 3rd form of the verb, then in else clause "would" should come and with first form "will" should come. Is vice-versa of this rule always wrong?
Eg. If he eats, he would fall sick. (right or wrong)
If he ate tomorrow, he will fall sick. (right or wrong)
2. Is will always wrong in future with respect to past?
3. Is there any other situation where we could use "would"? If I want to predict future with respect to present can I use "would"?
4. In hypothetical subjunctive is "will" always wrong?
could any Gmat instructor or any expert clarify on this please. It would help a lot of gmat students worldwide.
Thanks!!
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30 Nov 2016, 01:26
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I'm always hesitant to address anything in grammar as an absolute rule, because languages are always full of exceptions! However, I feel fairly confident answering these:
1. Your examples are reversed. It should be "If he eats, he will fall sick" and "If he ate tomorrow, he would fall sick." The first is a simple conditional, and the second uses the hypothetical subjunctive. We use "will" with respect to the present. When we use the past tense form to indicate a hypothetical, we follow with "would," just as if we were talking about the future with respect to the past.
2. Yes--see above.
3. Definitely don't use "would" in that way. There are certainly many other uses of the word (my dictionary lists eight), but some of them are a bit antiquated for the GMAT. For instance, I don't think you'd see "Would that it were so simple." (Translation: I wish that it were that simple!) (Oh, and I'm making a film reference. In case you need a quick laugh: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M20XWL57MgQ)
4. Yes.
1. Your examples are reversed. It should be "If he eats, he will fall sick" and "If he ate tomorrow, he would fall sick." The first is a simple conditional, and the second uses the hypothetical subjunctive. We use "will" with respect to the present. When we use the past tense form to indicate a hypothetical, we follow with "would," just as if we were talking about the future with respect to the past.
2. Yes--see above.
3. Definitely don't use "would" in that way. There are certainly many other uses of the word (my dictionary lists eight), but some of them are a bit antiquated for the GMAT. For instance, I don't think you'd see "Would that it were so simple." (Translation: I wish that it were that simple!) (Oh, and I'm making a film reference. In case you need a quick laugh: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M20XWL57MgQ)
4. Yes.
01 Dec 2016, 05:37
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Thanks for the help!!
But I still have doubt regarding:
Does hypothetical subjunctive always should be "If I were the president, I would do something"
or
even without the use of "were" in the 'if clause" we can make a hypothetical subjunctive.
I mean can we say something in the present about the future which is very unlikely and use "would'. Will that be a valid use of "would"?
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