Hi Everyone, I took my GMAT for the 3rd and final time last week and was fortunate enough to score a 760 (Q49, V45). I just wanted to share my experience with everyone since many of the past debriefs provided me with a lot of great insight and inspiration during my preparation. Hopefully my story will do the same for some of those currently studying for the GMAT! 1st Attempt – 11/08/07 – 640 (Q43, V34) My journey began in August of 2007 when I decided that I wanted to get an MBA. My initial intention was to apply that autumn but after learning more about the length of the application process, I decided to delay for one year. After bouncing the idea of taking a prep course around in my head for a few days I decided to register for the Princeton Review. My primary reason for taking the course was for the structure but it didn’t hurt that my friend also signed up for the same class and that she had a 10% off coupon from her company that I could use . Overall, I thought the course was worth taking. Princeton Review provided a significant amount of practice material, like the OG11, many full length CATs, and a good amount of timed practice sets, for me to hone my skills. If you’re looking for some magical shortcut to 700 then this class is not for you. But, if you are looking for a well structured course that teaches some useful concepts, then I would suggest considering Princeton Review. On test day I wasn’t sure what to expect. I hadn’t scored higher than 650 on any practice test so I basically walked into the testing center knowing that I’d be back sometime in the future. I ended up running out of time on the quantitative section, which adversely affected my performance on verbal. I ran out of time on verbal as well. Ultimately, my downfall was my own lack of diligence (preparation) and underestimation of the difficulty of the GMAT. No one to blame there but myself! 2nd Attempt – 02/25/08 – 650 (Q48, V32) After my first disappointment I made a promise to myself that my second attempt would be my last. After taking a long overseas vacation and taking some time off for the holidays I called Princeton Review and asked them to reactivate my online classroom access, which they very willingly did free of charge. I created a strict study schedule consisting of predetermined sets of OG11 problems bracketed with practice CATs to track my progress. About a week into my preparations I stumbled across the GMAT Club while reading about college football of all things! This site was one of my best resources. I purchased the 25Q+5V challenges and ended up plugging in a few of them into my study schedule when I needed a change of pace from the OG11. A week prior to my second attempt I took each GMATPrep CAT twice, scoring 720, 700, 710, and 660. I tried to shrug off the 660, labeling it as an outlier, since it was so much lower than my other scores. Ironically, the same score that I discounted was the best predictor of my true score of 650. I was pretty devastated. It was just so hard to stomach that I had spent the last 7 weeks studying for a mere 10 point improvement. Not only that, my verbal score even dropped by 2 points! 3rd Attempt – 05/01/08 – 760 (Q49, V45) I spent the next week moping around and feeling sorry for myself. After the majority of the sulking had subsided I decided to find out why I had failed to meet my goal of a 700+ score. I mainly lurked on the “Share Your GMAT Experience” forum, reading debriefs and various threads on the most effective ways to prepare. I came to the conclusion that I didn’t take enough full length adaptive tests and that my pacing could use some improvement as well. So, I developed yet another study schedule but this time it consisted of practice CAT after practice CAT with some OG11 work scattered in between. I ended up taking 22 CATs over the course of 6 weeks. Here were my results: PR1: 650 (Q47, V33) PR2: 670 (Q50, V33) PR3: 660 (Q48, V34) PR4: 680 (Q45, V39) PR5: 670 (Q47, V36) GMATPrep1: 740 (Q50, V40) GMATPrep2: 720 (Q48, V39) PowerPrep1: 720 (Q48, V40) PowerPrep2: 710 (Q48, V38) GMATPrep1: 760 (Q50, V42) GMATPrep2: 750 (Q49, V41) PR1: 720 (Q51, V39) PR2: 730 (Q51, V41) PR3: 690 (Q50, V36) PR4: 750 (Q51, V43) PR5: 700 (Q48, V39) GMATPrep1: 760 (Q50, V42) GMATPrep2: 760 (Q50, V41) PowerPrep1: 740 (Q50, V41) PowerPrep2: 740 (Q49, V41) GMATPrep1: 770 (Q49, V46) GMATPrep2: 760 (Q51, V41) Mean: 720 (Q49, V39) Median: 730 (Q50, V40) In addition to recording my scores, I also kept a detailed log of my pacing landmarks. I divided each section into groups of 10 questions and documented the time it took to complete each group. Mid way through my study schedule I had already developed the ability to determine how much time I should have remaining at any point during either section. This way, instead of realizing that I was off schedule towards the end of a section, I could constantly adjust my pacing to maximize my time efficiency. After all, it’s just as bad to run out of time as it is to not use every minute to your advantage. Plus, it was a huge confidence booster not having to worry about whether or not I was going to run out of time. I ended up finishing with 3 and 7 minutes remaining in the quantitative and verbal sections, respectively. It’s kind of strange; of my 3 GMAT attempts I felt the worst about this last test. I got a bunch of easy questions towards the end of the quantitative section so I was almost certain that I had done poorly. I wasn’t sure what to expect with verbal since my practice scores were all over the place. I felt like my heart was going to jump out of my chest when I was answering those survey questions at the end of the test. Final Words Most people who achieve the score of their dreams usually feel relieved or satisfied after doing so, but I feel more grateful than anything else. I feel grateful because I feel like I slightly overachieved last week. I am in no way saying that the score I obtained was beyond my true capability. I am just saying that it was probably on the higher end of my true range and given another 100 tries on the GMAT, I probably wouldn’t be able to replicate this score more than 10 or 15 times. I guess it just goes to show that on any given day a few guesses can fall your way and on any given day an few guesses can turn out to be wrong. I’m just thankful that lady luck was on my side last week. Anyway, that’s enough rambling from me. Thanks to everyone who has posted and continues to post on this site and in this forum. Cheers, Yahsek Summary For those who didn’t want to read my life story here is a short list of advice I would give to anyone preparing for the GMAT: - Study the OG11 (Official Guide, 11th Edition) : This is probably your best source of practice material. There are over 800 real GMAT questions as well as detailed answers to help you understand the material. - Take Practice CATs : More specifically, take the GMATPrep. The software interface and artificial intelligence are identical to that of the real GMAT. Since the software draws from a large database of real GMAT questions, reinstallations result in 50-80% new questions. The GMATPrep is also the best indicator of your true ability. - Pacing is Key : Master time management prior to the real GMAT and there will be one less thing to worry about when you take the real thing. After all, what good is knowing all the right answers if you run out of time to answer them all? - Participate In the Math and Verbal Forums : Post questions you can’t figure out. Help others by not only answering their questions but also providing explanations. It’s amazing how much you learn when you are responsible for showing your work! - Take GMAT Club Challenges : These tests aren’t adaptive, but they are well worth the $80USD for the 30 tests. The quantitative problem sets are much harder than real GMAT quantitative questions but they are great for training both patience and concentration. - Consider Princeton Review : I am in no way affiliated with PR. I, like many others, am just a normal guy who had a hard time getting motivated to study for the GMAT. I just felt that PR provided me with some good resources and stayed true to their promise that I would be satisfied with my score. They offered to let me re-take their course free of charge and reactivated my online classroom access not once but twice. - Do Not Dwell : One of my worst mistakes on my first attempt was letting my poor performance on the quantitative section negatively affect my performance on my verbal section. There's nothing you can do about past sections. This also holds true if you feel you did not write good essays. Just move on. Do not dwell!

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Cool! A great jump! Congratulations!!!

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thanks a heap for providing such great inputs on the exam.....

One question: what is your take on LSAT CR and RC....i mean did you use them during your preparation for the exam and what is your take on the same....please advise and help us on this aspect of the exam....

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thanks for that RC link dude...that really helped me a lot in improving my RC skillsets...

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Thanks for the feedback, bepositive. I didn't do any of the LSAT CR's and RC's. They were definitely on my long list of study material that I just didn't have time to cover before my test. From what I've read on these forums, the LSAT CR's are pretty brutal and if you get used to answering those the GMAT CR's will feel like child's play. My final strategy was just to do as many full length CATs that I could get my hands on. Luckily, the 9 CATs that I had access to provided me with enough questions that I was able to make a drastic improvement on my final attempt.

I think what ultimately helped me the most was getting better at taking tests as a whole. While practicing individual parts (SC, CR, DC, etc.) is definitely necessary, people often take for granted the potential gain from putting all your pieces together to solve the puzzle.

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u da Man!!

Thanks a bunch for your valuable advise....Good Luck!!

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Dude hope things going great guns at your end.... :-D

could you please advise on the kaplan CAT's...also can you suggest me a study plan.....i have one month exactly before i hit the d-day.....so can you suggest me some study plan that i could focus more on in order to maxmise the score.....please suggest!!

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Great come back brother

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Dude hope things going great guns at your end.... :-D

I have no experience with the Kaplan CATs. From what I've heard/read their scoring is a bit wacky. So, if you just utilize their test solely as practice and pay no attention to the score that pops out, I don't see why they couldn't be a good resource.

As for a study plan, I would suggest that you take the first 1-2 weeks and address your most glaring weaknesses. For example, if you're very weak with SC and DS, then work exclusively on those types of problems. Work on bolstering the basic concepts through practice problem repition and as you get stronger in those areas start to tackle higher level questions. Actively patrticipate on the GMAT Club math and verbal forums. Provide detailed answers to other people's questions and post questions that you cannot figure out. Look carefully at the answers others provide and most importantly understand the reasoning behind how others arrived at the correct answer.

Finally, for the last 2-3 weeks, concentrate on taking a lot of timed full length CATs. Cycle all your Kaplan, GMATPrep, and PowerPrep tests. The key for these few weeks is to improve two things: pacing and concentration. These CATs are designed to simulate the real GMAT. Utilize the real time nature of these softwares to train all the other factors that affect your testing experience. That way when you take the real GMAT, issues like pacing and focusing through the end of the test will seem like second nature. Keep in mind that reviewing and understanding the mistakes you make on these practice CATs is still very important. Also, keep participating in the GMAT Club math and verbal forums. The one thing that really calmed me down on test day was warming up with a few math and verbal questions before driving to the testing center.

Keep us posted on how your studies come along and eventually how you do on the real thing. If you have any questions, feel free to post. I'll try my best to answer them. Good luck!

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Thanks buddy for your valuable advise......

Dude you talked about the princeton tests....are these tests the same as what one gets with the princeton book with a CD tests????....or they are different......

will surely update about my preparation for the exam and would be looking out for such valuable advise from all....

Cheers!

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hi

I have my gmat on 23rd june ..trying for it second time...
i am facing problem in english while taking full length CAT .
when i give sectional's i score good but while i am giving full length tests than i fall short of time and in hurry make questions wrong . could it be that while giving full length CAt , after giving maths i am little lazy and give more time per question in eng...what should i do?
am very much depressed due to my scores....its imp for me to get a good score this time ...

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Awesome score! Excellent progress!

Your way of progressing from mid 600s to mid 700s is awesome. I will take maximum tips from your debrief to improve my score in the second attempt ( first is 630 Q47 V30).

When I practice in isolation, I do well in verbal with a success rate of about 85-90% on SC, CR, and RC. However, failing in the practice or actual exam to repeat that % ( I am scoring at the success rate of 50-60% in test). Probably, it has got something to do with pacing in the test. As you suggested, I will try to take as many practice tests as possible and see how I am progressing for each section of 10 questions.

Have you used the defect log? Was it helpful?

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3rd time is a charm!

Way to nail it...

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Dude you talked about the princeton tests....are these tests the same as what one gets with the princeton book with a CD tests????....or they are different......

I don't think they are the same tests. When I signed up for the PR course I received a CD with additional tests that I somehow lost in my room and never found again. I remember the instructor specifically stating that the tests on the CD were different than those found in the online classroom.

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Take more full length timed practice tests. From your assessment it appears that pacing and a breakdown in concentration are negatively impacting your test scores. By simulating practice CATs from start to finish a few times a week you will condition your brain to concentrate for 3+ hours at a time. It will be difficult at first but do whatever you can to finish the test. The more tests you finish the easier it will get. This way when it comes time to take the real GMAT, staying focused for 3-4 hours will not be a problem.

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Yes, pacing is often overlooked by many test takers. If you practice enough to make the timing a non-issue it will very likely improve your score. The 10-question landmarks that I used are by no means a standard. It was just the best way I could think of to implement calibration points for my pacing. It's amazing how much a person's performance is affected when there's a clock ticking in the corner.

I did use an error log but moreso during the earlier portions of my preparations than the later. I found that an error log was a good way to pinpoint where my weaker areas were after a few solid days of practice problems. If you're detailed enough in your recording, an error log can also tell you specifically what types of questions within a certain area you are particularly weak with. For example, you may be weaker at SC problems but more specifically idioms within SC.

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congrats.

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-Do Not Dwell: One of my worst mistakes on my first attempt was letting my poor performance on the quantitative section negatively affect my performance on my verbal section. There's nothing you can do about past sections. This also holds true if you feel you did not write good essays. Just move on. Do not dwell!

i take this.

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Thanks!....

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