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A and B can complete a task in 20 days. B and C can complete the same task in 30 days. If A and C can complete the task in 40 days, arrange the efficiencies of A, B, and C in descending order.


    A. A>B>C
    B. A>C>B
    C. B>A>C
    D. B>C>A
    E. C>A>B

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Method 2

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The method shown in the previous post is a lengthy method. Especially when we are not asked to find the efficiency. We are just asked to arrange them in descending order.

    • Let us try to compare two statements at a time and see if we can infer anything from it?
      o A and B can complete the task in 20 days.
      o B and C can complete the task in 30 days.
      o Let us take the above two statements. Now notice carefully, that B is common in both the statements, right?
         A is just replaced by C in the second statement.
         And what do we notice, when C comes in place of A?
          • We see that the time taken to complete the work increases from 20 days to 30 days.
          • This means that C works slower than A.
          • Hence, A is more efficient than C. (A>C)

    • Now let us compare

      o B and C can complete the task in 30 days.
      o C and A can complete the task in 40 days.
      o Now notice carefully, that C is common in both the statements.
         B is just replaced by A in the second statement.
         And what do we notice, when A comes in place of B?
          • We see that the time taken to complete the work increases from 30 days to 40 days.
          • Thus, that means that A works slower than B.
          • Hence, B is more efficient than A.(B>A)

    • Combining both the inferences, we can conclude that B>A>C.
    • Thus, you can see that even without calculating a single value, we found the answer, by simply observing the data and comparing them.
    That’s the power of observation!! :D

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There are a number of ways to solve this.

Let me show you two.

Method 1

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Given:

    • A and B can complete the task in 20 days.
    • B and C can complete the task in 30 days.
    • C and A can complete the task in 40 days.


Approach and Working Out:

    • Let us assume the task to be 120 units. [LCM of 20,30 and 40]
    • Therefore, we can say
      o Efficiency of A + B = Work/ Time = \(\frac{120}{20}\) = 6 units/day……….(i)

      o Efficiency of B + C = \(\frac{120}{30}\) = 4 units/day…………(ii)

      o Efficiency of C + A = \(\frac{120}{40}\) = 3 units/day…………(iii)

    • If we add these up we get
      o 2 (Efficiency of A + B + C) = (6+4+3) = 13

      o Efficiency of A + B + C = 6.5 ………..(iv)

    • Subtracting (i) from (iv) we get

      o Efficiency of C = 0.5 units/day

    • Subtracting (ii) from (iv), we get

      o Efficiency of A = 2.5 units/day

    • And efficiency of B = 3.5 units/day

    • Thus, we can arrange the efficiency of A, B and C as B>A>C.

    • And the correct answer is Option C.

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Originally posted by EgmatQuantExpert on 31 Mar 2017, 03:35.
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A and B can complete a task in 20 days. B and C can complete the same task in 30 days. If A and C can complete the task in 40 days, arrange the efficiencies of A, B, and C in descending order.


    A. A>B>C
    B. A>C>B
    C. B>A>C
    D. B>C>A
    E. C>A>B

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Saquib or anyone: I got the correct answer, but I am not sure my method is correct.

--I wrote equations for combined rates (efficiency, i.e. how many days to complete).
A + B = 20 (i)
B + C = 30 (ii)
A + C = 40 (iii)

--Then added

(ii) B + C = 30
(iii)A + C = 40, which yields

(A + B) + 2C = 70

--We know (A + B) = 20, so
(20) + 2C = 70
C = 25

--Solve for B.
B + C = 30
B = 5

--Solve for A.
A + B = 20
A = 15

B takes 5 days.
A takes 15 days.
C takes 25 days.

Therefore, from most efficient to least: B > A > C, where "greater than" means "more efficient." Answer: C
I looked at Saquib's approaches and mine seemed flabby by comparison. :? Did I do it wrong? Help?
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Saquib or anyone: I got the correct answer, but I am not sure my method is correct.

--I wrote equations for combined rates (efficiency, i.e. how many days to complete).
A + B = 20 (i)
B + C = 30 (ii)
A + C = 40 (iii)

--Then added

(ii) B + C = 30
(iii)A + C = 40, which yields

(A + B) + 2C = 70

--We know (A + B) = 20, so
(20) + 2C = 70
C = 25

--Solve for B.
B + C = 30
B = 5

--Solve for A.
A + B = 20
A = 15

B takes 5 days.
A takes 15 days.
C takes 25 days.

Therefore, from most efficient to least: B > A > C, where "greater than" means "more efficient." Answer: C
I looked at Saquib's approaches and mine seemed flabby by comparison. :? Did I do it wrong? Help?



Hey,

The method that you have used is incorrect. :(

Let me explain by asking you a simple question.
    Say A completes a piece of work in 20 days, so A = 20.
    And B completes the same work, in 30 days, so B = 30.

      Now tell me if A and B work together will they take (20+30) = 50 days? :)

Think about it carefully, when two people will work together, will they complete the work faster or will the take more than the individual time taken by them to complete the work??

Answer the above question and I am sure you will understand why your method is flawed.


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EgmatQuantExpert wrote:
genxer123 wrote:

Saquib or anyone: I got the correct answer, but I am not sure my method is correct.

--I wrote equations for combined rates (efficiency, i.e. how many days to complete).
A + B = 20 (i)
B + C = 30 (ii)
A + C = 40 (iii)

--Then added

(ii) B + C = 30
(iii)A + C = 40, which yields

(A + B) + 2C = 70

--We know (A + B) = 20, so
(20) + 2C = 70
C = 25

--Solve for B.
B + C = 30
B = 5

--Solve for A.
A + B = 20
A = 15

B takes 5 days.
A takes 15 days.
C takes 25 days.

Therefore, from most efficient to least: B > A > C, where "greater than" means "more efficient." Answer: C
I looked at Saquib's approaches and mine seemed flabby by comparison. :? Did I do it wrong? Help?



Hey,

The method that you have used is incorrect. :(

Let me explain by asking you a simple question.
    Say A completes a piece of work in 20 days, so A = 20.
    And B completes the same work, in 30 days, so B = 30.

      Now tell me if A and B work together will they take (20+30) = 50 days? :)

Think about it carefully, when two people will work together, will they complete the work faster or will the take more than the individual time taken by them to complete the work??

Answer the above question and I am sure you will understand why your method is flawed.


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Saquib, thank you! Every so often I invert rates. Your question about people working faster together will remind me to check my here-AWOL :oops: :? logic on hard problems. Thanks again.
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A + B --> 20
C + B --> 30
So, A >> C (1)

B + C --> 30
A + C --> 40
So, B >> A (2)

(1) & (2): B >> A >> C
Hence, option C.
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I applied the following method. Please let me if the concept is correct.

1. In 20 day; A and B complete the work.
Hence in 1 day work done is: 1/20

Rate of A + rate of B = 1/20
(Similarly)
Rate of A + Rate of C = 1/ 40
Rate of B + Rate of C = 1/30

Now comparing the equations;
1/20> 1/40, so :
Rate of A + rate of B > Rate of A + Rate of C (Minus "rate of A from both sides; we get):
Rate of B > Rate of C

1/30> 1/40, so :
Rate of B + rate of C >. Rate of A + Rate of C (Minus rate of C from both sides we get):
Rate of B> Rate of A

1/20> 1/30, so :
Rate A> Rate C


Combining all inequalities:
B> A> C
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I applied the following method. Please let me if the concept is correct.

1. In 20 day; A and B complete the work.
Hence in 1 day work done is: 1/20

Rate of A + rate of B = 1/20
(Similarly)
Rate of A + Rate of C = 1/ 40
Rate of B + Rate of C = 1/30

Now comparing the equations;
1/20> 1/40, so :
Rate of A + rate of B > Rate of A + Rate of C (Minus "rate of A from both sides; we get):
Rate of B > Rate of C

1/30> 1/40, so :
Rate of B + rate of C >. Rate of A + Rate of C (Minus rate of C from both sides we get):
Rate of B> Rate of A

1/20> 1/30, so :
Rate A> Rate C


Combining all inequalities:
B> A> C



Hey Gargie,


Your method is absolutely correct. People do tend to make the mistake of comparing time instead of efficiencies, i.e. rate of doing work.

But you have done it exactly the way I expect a student to do it. :D

Just one suggestion, in questions of high difficulty level, solving the question using fractions sometimes gets cumbersome, so instead of assuming the work to be 1 units, try to assume the work to be the LCM of the time taken by each person, that way you will be solving the question mostly using integers and for me it is easier to solve using integers than fraction/decimals. :)


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lcm of 20,30,40=120 unit
A+B=120 units/20hr= 6 unit per hr....(1)
B+c=120/30=4......(2)
A+C=120/40=3......(3)
(1)-(2)
A-C=2....(4)
(3)+(4)
A=2.5
B=3.5
C=0.5
B>A>C
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A and B can complete a task in 20 days. B and C can complete the same task in 30 days. If A and C can complete the task in 40 days, arrange the efficiencies of A, B, and C in descending order.


    A. A>B>C
    B. A>C>B
    C. B>A>C
    D. B>C>A
    E. C>A>B


adding, rate of A+2B+C=20/240
rate of A+C=6/240
subtracting, 2B=14/240
rate of B=7/240
rate of A=12/240-7/240=5/240
rate of C=6/240-5/240=1/240
B>A>C
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A and B can complete a task in 20 days. B and C can complete the same task in 30 days. If A and C can complete the task in 40 days, arrange the efficiencies of A, B, and C in descending order.

A. A>B>C
B. A>C>B
C. B>A>C
D. B>C>A
E. C>A>B

Let's call \(A,B,C\) are the time for each to complete that work. Hence \(\frac{1}{A},\frac{1}{B},\frac{1}{C}\) are the efficiencies of each.

\(\frac{1}{A}+\frac{1}{B}=\frac{1}{20} \quad (1)\)
\(\frac{1}{B}+\frac{1}{C}=\frac{1}{30} \quad (2)\)
\(\frac{1}{C}+\frac{1}{A}=\frac{1}{40}\quad (3)\)

\((1) > (2) \implies \frac{1}{A} > \frac{1}{C} \)
\((2) > (3) \implies \frac{1}{B} > \frac{1}{A} \)
\((1) > (3) \implies \frac{1}{B} > \frac{1}{C} \)

Hence \(\frac{1}{B}>\frac{1}{A}> \frac{1}{C}\)

The answer is C
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I have used below approach. Please let me know if this is correct.

A+B = 20 days --------- (1)
B+C = 30 days --------- (2)
A + C = 40 days --------- (3)
---------------------------
2 (A+B+C) = 90 days
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A+B+C = 45 days -------- (4)

I have substituted the value of value of eq (1) , eq (2) and eq (3) in eq (4) one by one.

20 + C = 45 [A+B = 20 days]
C= 25
[C alone can complete work in 25 days]

B + 40 = 45 [ A+C = 40 days]
B=5 days
[B alone can complete work in 5 days]

A+ 30 = 45 [B+C = 30]
A=15 days
[A alone can complete work in 15 days]

Hence, B>A>C

Ans : C
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A + B = 1/20 ---(1)
B + C = 1/30 ---(2)
(1)-(2) => A - C = (1/20) - (1/30) = 1/60
A + C = 1/40
solving => A = 1/48
so A alone takes 48 days to complete.

computing C:
so two As => A + A ->will take 24 days to complete,
but given that A + C -> 40 days, this means C is slower than A => A > C

computing B:
two As => A + A -> 24 days to complete,
but given that A + B -> 20 days, this mean B is faster than A => B > A

B > A > C => option (C)
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A and B can complete a task in 20 days. B and C can complete the same task in 30 days. If A and C can complete the task in 40 days, arrange the efficiencies of A, B, and C in descending order.


    A. A>B>C
    B. A>C>B
    C. B>A>C
    D. B>C>A
    E. C>A>B


Since A and B can complete a task in 20 days but B and C can complete the same task in 30 days, A must be more efficient than C.

Since B and C can complete the same task in 30 days but A and C can complete the task in 40 days, B must be more efficient than A.

Therefore, their efficiencies in descending order is B, followed by A, followed by C.

Answer: C
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Hi All,

We're told that A and B can complete a task in 20 days. B and C can complete the same task in 30 days and A and C can complete the task in 40 days. We're asked to arrange the 'efficiencies' of A, B, and C in descending order. This is actually more of a 'logic question' than a 'math question' - and you can solve it with some basic logical comparisons.

To start, we know:
A and B take 20 days to do a task
B and C take 30 days to do a task
Thus, 'swapping' A for C makes the job take 10 days LONGER, meaning that A is MORE efficient than C (re: A > C).

Next, we know:
A and B take 20 days to do a task
A and C take 40 days to do a task
Thus, 'swapping' B for C makes the job take 20 days LONGER, meaning that B is MORE efficient than C (re: B > C).

Finally, we know:
B and C take 30 days to do a task
A and C take 40 days to do a task
Thus, 'swapping' B for A makes the job take 10 days LONGER, meaning that B is MORE efficient than A (re: B > A).

Combining the three inequalities, we have B > A > C

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