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# A day-care discussion must begin with the fact of there

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A day-care discussion must begin with the fact of there being in America four and one-half million working women whose children under six years of age are being cared for by others.
(A) A day-care discussion must begin with the fact of there being
(B) Beginning any discussion of day care must be the fact of there being
(C) Any discussion of day care must begin with the fact that there are
(D) Any discussion of day care must begin by acknowledging the fact that there exists
(E) To begin a discussion of day care there must be an acknowledgement of the fact that

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22 Jan 2009, 03:39
I pondered on this one for a bit, but settled on C.
scthakur wrote:
A day-care discussion must begin with the fact of there being in America four and one-half million working women whose children under six years of age are being cared for by others.
(A) A day-care discussion must begin with the fact of there being "of there being in America" is a very awkward construction
(B) Beginning any discussion of day care must be the fact of there being as above; "beginning" is not an intended subject
(C) Any discussion of day care must begin with the fact that there are I looked for an option that said "by acknowledging the fact", but this one should do
(D) Any discussion of day care must begin by acknowledging the fact that there exists I think it should be "exist"
(E) To begin a discussion of day care there must be an acknowledgement of the fact that this one isn't making sense

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22 Jan 2009, 10:31
A,B are out "there being" awkward.
B,E distorts the orignal meaning.. by changing Main subject "Discussion" to "Begining discussion"

botirvoy,

in D. exists is correct..
fact (singluar) - exists
But D distorts the original meaning also wordy

Orignal sentence intented to say " discussion must begin with fact.."
In D, it says begin with acknowledging (admit as true)..the fact
that means.. even if that is not fact. we have to acknowledge as fact.

C is the best.
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22 Jan 2009, 13:16
x2suresh wrote:
A,B are out "there being" awkward.
B,E distorts the orignal meaning.. by changing Main subject "Discussion" to "Begining discussion"

botirvoy,

in D. exists is correct..
fact (singluar) - exists
But D distorts the original meaning also wordy

Orignal sentence intented to say " discussion must begin with fact.."
In D, it says begin with acknowledging (admit as true)..the fact
that means.. even if that is not fact. we have to acknowledge as fact.
C is the best.

I think "exists" is referring to women.

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22 Jan 2009, 13:25
Between C and D.
I would pick D. C seems to be idiomatically incorrect.

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22 Jan 2009, 14:59
botirvoy wrote:
x2suresh wrote:
A,B are out "there being" awkward.
B,E distorts the orignal meaning.. by changing Main subject "Discussion" to "Begining discussion"

botirvoy,

in D. exists is correct..
fact (singluar) - exists
But D distorts the original meaning also wordy

Orignal sentence intented to say " discussion must begin with fact.."
In D, it says begin with acknowledging (admit as true)..the fact
that means.. even if that is not fact. we have to acknowledge as fact.
C is the best.

I think "exists" is referring to women.

You are right buddy!!
I was so stupid.. sleepy..

obviously.. exists refer to women
In C there are ... "are" refers to women
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22 Jan 2009, 23:13
OA is C.

Thanks botirvoy for pointing out why D is wrong. I chose D and ignored the fact that the S-V agreement is wrong. Moreover, I think, "agree with" is the idiom and this also makes D an incorrect option.

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23 Jan 2009, 08:43
why not E...and how it distorts the meaning?

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23 Jan 2009, 08:52
why not E...and how it distorts the meaning?

"Any discussion" or "to begin discussion"

E says "to begin discussion" you must acknowledge the fact (here subject is "to begin discussion")

original setence says " Any discussion" must begin with the fact...
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23 Jan 2009, 10:00
x2suresh wrote:
why not E...and how it distorts the meaning?

"Any discussion" or "to begin discussion"

E says "to begin discussion" you must acknowledge the fact (here subject is "to begin discussion")

original setence says " Any discussion" must begin with the fact...

chose E first; but after reading your post went to C. still seems awkward the way it says
there are in america.............
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