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A discussion of our nations foreign policy must begin with

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13. A discussion of our nations foreign policy must begin with the fact of there being an independent Western Europe which now thinks of itself in trans-nationalist terms.

A. A discussion of our nations foreign policy must begin with the fact of there being
B. Beginning any discussion of our nations foreign policy must be the fact of there being
C. Any discussion of our nations foreign policy must begin with the fact that there is
D. Any discussion of our nations foreign policy must begin by acknowledging the existence of
E. To begin discussing our nations foreign policy thee must be an acknowledgment of the fact that
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Re: Brutal SCs - no. 13 [#permalink]

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It's D. Discussed couple of days back here western-europe-78824.html.
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C

On the GMAT D would be wrong, they're too similar-- go with the shorter one. C is not the passive voice as claimed in that other thread.
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On the GMAT D would be wrong, they're too similar-- go with the shorter one. C is not the passive voice as claimed in that other thread.


OA is D. And in any way "acknowledging the existence of" is much simpler and clear than "with the fact that there is".
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Hades wrote:
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On the GMAT D would be wrong, they're too similar-- go with the shorter one. C is not the passive voice as claimed in that other thread.


OA is D. And in any way "acknowledging the existence of" is much simpler and clear than "with the fact that there is".


It's shorter and more concise, imo. It is the more correct one. But then again an official question wouldn't have such a wide ambiguity among answer choices.
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Re: Brutal SCs - no. 13 [#permalink]

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New post 03 Jun 2009, 06:29
IMO, GMAT doesnt statements like There is, there are..
Also, they are passive..
HEnce it loses..
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humans wrote:
Hades wrote:
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On the GMAT D would be wrong, they're too similar-- go with the shorter one. C is not the passive voice as claimed in that other thread.


OA is D. And in any way "acknowledging the existence of" is much simpler and clear than "with the fact that there is".


I chose D as well. In option C, the use of "that" changed the logic of the sentence. Option C essentially says:

"Any discussion must begin with the fact."

THAT'S ALL!
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