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Is there anybody find the SC in real text are different from the OG. I am non-native speaker, And I find that in real test the SC are different from OG and perp. Another question is that I find the RC is very hard for me, the sentences in the RC are very long and obscure. Who have a better way to solve my RC ability? Thank you .
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Is there anybody find the SC in real text are different from the OG. I am non-native speaker, And I find that in real test the SC are different from OG and perp. Another question is that I find the RC is very hard for me, the sentences in the RC are very long and obscure. Who have a better way to solve my RC ability? Thank you .
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Well the best thing is to practice ! but IMO the gmat-pill guy's RC technique is very good... I am an avid reader so its not a very big problem but GMAT reading is very different...I think one should have a technique in place...so I highly recommend his way ( he skims the passage in a particular way which is very good as most of the passages in the real test follow similar structure...)..I am confident about my GMAT RC after going through his technique...practicing his technique and I am sure u can get easily an accuracy of 80% in the RC-real test...! gud luck!
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Is there anybody find the SC in real text are different from the OG. I am non-native speaker, And I find that in real test the SC are different from OG and perp. Another question is that I find the RC is very hard for me, the sentences in the RC are very long and obscure. Who have a better way to solve my RC ability? Thank you .
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Hi hotdream, I'd have to say that there are always strategies to improve your RC techniques, but the best thing you can do overall is to read more in English. This will help you with all facets of the verbal section, but particularly on the RC passages. akhilright mentioned this in his post indirectly: he is an avid reader and therefore doesn't struggle with that type of issue. Of course not everyone likes to read and not everyone has the same amount of time, so feel free to try various strategies and see which works best for you.

As for your question on SC, the actual test questions will always be different from the OG or prep, but the underlying issues will tend to be the same. Look for subject-verb agreement, look for unclear pronouns, make sure the modifiers are properly placed, etc. Above all look for the logical meaning of the phrase, as the GMAT is fond of making answer choices that completely change the meaning but are nevertheless grammatically correct. Sentence correction is also constantly evolving, some of the topics they tested a few years ago no longer appear and new ones take their place. Take the practice test questions with a grain of salt. They're usually quite good but nothing will be perfect.

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Is there anybody find the SC in real text are different from the OG. I am non-native speaker, And I find that in real test the SC are different from OG and perp. Another question is that I find the RC is very hard for me, the sentences in the RC are very long and obscure. Who have a better way to solve my RC ability? Thank you .

Well the best thing is to practice ! but IMO the gmat-pill guy's RC technique is very good... I am an avid reader so its not a very big problem but GMAT reading is very different...I think one should have a technique in place...so I highly recommend his way ( he skims the passage in a particular way which is very good as most of the passages in the real test follow similar structure...)..I am confident about my GMAT RC after going through his technique...practicing his technique and I am sure u can get easily an accuracy of 80% in the RC-real test...! gud luck!
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Thank you very much!
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Is there anybody find the SC in real text are different from the OG. I am non-native speaker, And I find that in real test the SC are different from OG and perp. Another question is that I find the RC is very hard for me, the sentences in the RC are very long and obscure. Who have a better way to solve my RC ability? Thank you .

Hi hotdream, I'd have to say that there are always strategies to improve your RC techniques, but the best thing you can do overall is to read more in English. This will help you with all facets of the verbal section, but particularly on the RC passages. akhilright mentioned this in his post indirectly: he is an avid reader and therefore doesn't struggle with that type of issue. Of course not everyone likes to read and not everyone has the same amount of time, so feel free to try various strategies and see which works best for you.

As for your question on SC, the actual test questions will always be different from the OG or prep, but the underlying issues will tend to be the same. Look for subject-verb agreement, look for unclear pronouns, make sure the modifiers are properly placed, etc. Above all look for the logical meaning of the phrase, as the GMAT is fond of making answer choices that completely change the meaning but are nevertheless grammatically correct. Sentence correction is also constantly evolving, some of the topics they tested a few years ago no longer appear and new ones take their place. Take the practice test questions with a grain of salt. They're usually quite good but nothing will be perfect.

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Hi Ron! Thank you very much. I think that I should read more article in English. Practice is the best way to improve my ability of RC. You reply about SC makes me understand the meaning of SC are very important. Only focus on the grammar structure is not a good way.
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Is there anybody find the SC in real text are different from the OG. I am non-native speaker, And I find that in real test the SC are different from OG and perp. Another question is that I find the RC is very hard for me, the sentences in the RC are very long and obscure. Who have a better way to solve my RC ability? Thank you .

Hi hotdream, I'd have to say that there are always strategies to improve your RC techniques, but the best thing you can do overall is to read more in English. This will help you with all facets of the verbal section, but particularly on the RC passages. akhilright mentioned this in his post indirectly: he is an avid reader and therefore doesn't struggle with that type of issue. Of course not everyone likes to read and not everyone has the same amount of time, so feel free to try various strategies and see which works best for you.

As for your question on SC, the actual test questions will always be different from the OG or prep, but the underlying issues will tend to be the same. Look for subject-verb agreement, look for unclear pronouns, make sure the modifiers are properly placed, etc. Above all look for the logical meaning of the phrase, as the GMAT is fond of making answer choices that completely change the meaning but are nevertheless grammatically correct. Sentence correction is also constantly evolving, some of the topics they tested a few years ago no longer appear and new ones take their place. Take the practice test questions with a grain of salt. They're usually quite good but nothing will be perfect.

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Hi Ron！ I have a puzzle about CR. My teacher always tell me that we don't have much time to analyze the the structure of premise ,assumption and conclusion about the CR paragraph. He think that a false option is always unrelated about paragraph. And the correct option is related about paragraph. In the real test , I also find these. Could you have a better way to beat CR. Thank you
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Hi hotdream,

That approach to CR will definitely not work. Often, the wrong answers will be very closely related to the argument. They just don't relate in the right way. For instance, on a Strengthen the Argument question, some of the answer choices may weaken the argument. If we dismiss them as irrelevant, then we haven't understood the argument well enough.

As far as I'm concerned, taking the time to fully understand the argument is the only way to go. If you're working on an assumption-based question, you want to go into the answer choices with a clear sense not only of what the conclusion and premises are, but also of why the author thinks the premises lead to the conclusion. Ideally, you want to identify one or more assumptions up-front, too (what is the author overlooking?), but if you can't find anything, it's okay to jump into the answer choices.

On an inference/conclusion question, there's less up-front work to do. The given statements may work together to create some larger conclusion, and if this is the case, you want to identify that. However, often the correct answer will just be some random statement that is supported by the statements above.

In any case, eliminating answers that are unrelated to the argument is never *wrong*--clearly those answers won't work. It's just that that kind of elimination alone is not sufficient to get you all the way to the right answer on most CR problems.
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Hi hotdream,

That approach to CR will definitely not work. Often, the wrong answers will be very closely related to the argument. They just don't relate in the right way. For instance, on a Strengthen the Argument question, some of the answer choices may weaken the argument. If we dismiss them as irrelevant, then we haven't understood the argument well enough.

As far as I'm concerned, taking the time to fully understand the argument is the only way to go. If you're working on an assumption-based question, you want to go into the answer choices with a clear sense not only of what the conclusion and premises are, but also of why the author thinks the premises lead to the conclusion. Ideally, you want to identify one or more assumptions up-front, too (what is the author overlooking?), but if you can't find anything, it's okay to jump into the answer choices.

On an inference/conclusion question, there's less up-front work to do. The given statements may work together to create some larger conclusion, and if this is the case, you want to identify that. However, often the correct answer will just be some random statement that is supported by the statements above.

In any case, eliminating answers that are unrelated to the argument is never *wrong*--clearly those answers won't work. It's just that that kind of elimination alone is not sufficient to get you all the way to the right answer on most CR problems.
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Hi DmitryFarber:
Thank you for your help. Now I think I should improve my reading ability. Understanding a clear the argument of CR and RC is important.