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Hi everyone, it's my first time here.

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I'm studying Management Engineering at Politecnico di Milano (best italian university according to QS),
3.0 GPA i think (according to the percentile table from my study course I'm slightly above the 50% of the class),
I have no exams left behind (only 35%-40% of the students graduate on time),
GRE: 167/170 quant, 154/170 verbal, 3.0 AWA (sob...).
TOEFL 98/110.

Having said that, I've applied to the Msc finance courses (ranked in the FT top 20) of Skema, Frankfurt School of Finance and Management and Esade.

I've been admitted to all the final interviews, at the time I felt quite desired by those universities.
But then, after the interviews, I got rejected from the first two ones. Tomorrow Esade will decide but I'm not hopeful.
The interviews went ok/good, especially the one with FSFM.

I cannot explain that. Are they rejecting me because of the GPA? Because in case I don't know why they asked me for interviews, saying that I was a "strong candidate".
Am I pointing too high? Do I have to apply to lower ranked business schools?

I really need an advice from someone expert. Thank you in advance.
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nobono wrote:
Hi everyone, it's my first time here.

My stat:

I'm studying Management Engineering at Politecnico di Milano (best italian university according to QS),
3.0 GPA i think (according to the percentile table from my study course I'm slightly above the 50% of the class),
I have no exams left behind (only 35%-40% of the students graduate on time),
GRE: 167/170 quant, 154/170 verbal, 3.0 AWA (sob...).
TOEFL 98/110.

Having said that, I've applied to the Msc finance courses (ranked in the FT top 20) of Skema, Frankfurt School of Finance and Management and Esade.

I've been admitted to all the final interviews, at the time I felt quite desired by those universities.
But then, after the interviews, I got rejected from the first two ones. Tomorrow Esade will decide but I'm not hopeful.
The interviews went ok/good, especially the one with FSFM.

I cannot explain that. Are they rejecting me because of the GPA? Because in case I don't know why they asked me for interviews, saying that I was a "strong candidate".
Am I pointing too high? Do I have to apply to lower ranked business schools?

I really need an advice from someone expert. Thank you in advance.


It appears that based on what you're stating here, things were going really well up to the interview. My instinct is telling me that maybe you need to work on your verbal communication skills in English, potentially. If they feel it would be an impediment to other students understanding you, it would limit your ability to contribute in the classroom. I'm not certain that this is the problem. However that is my suspicion. At the same time, interviews are just an invitation to a conversation and in no way a guarantee to a spot in the class. I think people consider interviews to be too "firm" and nothing makes me crazier than candidates skipping R2 apps because they got an interview or 2. If you feel this isn't the issue, maybe consider what you said/did/wore to both these interviews.
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Thank you for your response.

I think that my two main problems were GPA and what I said during the interviews. Essays, location, dressing and spoken english were good (they told me that my spoken english was good).

Having said that, it's almost impossible for me to have a clear picture of what happened, because universities don't release feedbacks and there are no stats about the admission rates, admission to interviews rates, minimum GPA and so on. So I cannot say if they call everyone for interwiews or if an interview is really close to being admitted. I don't know if they want to loose 45 mintes talking with every single candidate.

If I ask to the admission offices of other schools (I did it also with FSFM), they encourage me to apply, because they find me a strong candidate.

Also, during the interviews, I responded very well about the latest news and events that are happening in the world: Brexit, Quantitative Easing, MPS, and so on, and and I received congratulations after my good answers.

The only thing that I could do is to try to be more convinced about my answers, especially the ones about my future career.
However, if GPA is the problem, I cannot solve it, because I have no exams until February.

So, right now I don't know where to apply next.
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nobono wrote:
Hi everyone, it's my first time here.

My stat:

I'm studying Management Engineering at Politecnico di Milano (best italian university according to QS),
3.0 GPA i think (according to the percentile table from my study course I'm slightly above the 50% of the class),
I have no exams left behind (only 35%-40% of the students graduate on time),
GRE: 167/170 quant, 154/170 verbal, 3.0 AWA (sob...).
TOEFL 98/110.

Having said that, I've applied to the Msc finance courses (ranked in the FT top 20) of Skema, Frankfurt School of Finance and Management and Esade.

I've been admitted to all the final interviews, at the time I felt quite desired by those universities.
But then, after the interviews, I got rejected from the first two ones. Tomorrow Esade will decide but I'm not hopeful.
The interviews went ok/good, especially the one with FSFM.

I cannot explain that. Are they rejecting me because of the GPA? Because in case I don't know why they asked me for interviews, saying that I was a "strong candidate".
Am I pointing too high? Do I have to apply to lower ranked business schools?

I really need an advice from someone expert. Thank you in advance.


It appears that based on what you're stating here, things were going really well up to the interview. My instinct is telling me that maybe you need to work on your verbal communication skills in English, potentially. If they feel it would be an impediment to other students understanding you, it would limit your ability to contribute in the classroom. I'm not certain that this is the problem. However that is my suspicion. At the same time, interviews are just an invitation to a conversation and in no way a guarantee to a spot in the class. I think people consider interviews to be too "firm" and nothing makes me crazier than candidates skipping R2 apps because they got an interview or 2. If you feel this isn't the issue, maybe consider what you said/did/wore to both these interviews.


Well, we can rule out English. How did things go with ESADE? Have you done any professional or even non-professional interview coaching?
I agree with you that GPA does not seem likely. It might relate to fit, or your responses. Were these blind interviews?
If not, what did you reveal in the interviews that might not have been revealed on the application?
Unrealistic goals, perhaps?
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New post 17 Apr 2017, 01:03
Ciao ,
Anch'io sono uno studente del poli a Milano e volevo iscrivermi al master in finance alla frankfurt school of management And finance. Volevo chiederti se mi potevi dare qualche informazione sulle domande che fanno all'orale.
Inoltre se avevi anche qualche informazione sul test di ingresso organizzato dall'università?
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Thank you for your response.
Hi nobono and I feel for you. Nothing is more disappointing than getting to the interview round and then not getting the offer. However, don't let past performance impact future opportunties. Go in feeling confident, don't be depressed or anxious-
talk yourself out of the funk because you don't want to bring that in with you. If it was your interview response- focus on that. You can't fix the GPA as you said- at least not in a few days. So review what was asked- and what you answered and consider having an impartial person give you their opinion of your answers. We offer an interview prep option and in even just an hour you may have more clues. The link to find out more there is :https://stratusadmissionscounseling.com/admissions/business-school-admissions-consulting-gmat-club-visitor/
But also keep in mind this is a numbers game- sometimes everything clicks and sometimes it does not. I have clients that got interview invitations to HBS and not Booth, got nowhere at Booth and got fellowship money at Wharton, got dinged at Wharton and got money at Kellogg... so it truly is a fickle business and you can't read too much into one or two data points or it will drive you crazy. Focus on what you can control- make sure you know WHY you want the school, what classes and activities you will participate in and what you can do to give back. Here is a link to an article I wrote about thinking how ADCOM thinks and maybe this will give you some insight into your next interview! Good luck! I'm rooting for you! https://stratusadmissionscounseling.com ... interview/

I think that my two main problems were GPA and what I said during the interviews. Essays, location, dressing and spoken english were good (they told me that my spoken english was good).

Having said that, it's almost impossible for me to have a clear picture of what happened, because universities don't release feedbacks and there are no stats about the admission rates, admission to interviews rates, minimum GPA and so on. So I cannot say if they call everyone for interwiews or if an interview is really close to being admitted. I don't know if they want to loose 45 mintes talking with every single candidate.

If I ask to the admission offices of other schools (I did it also with FSFM), they encourage me to apply, because they find me a strong candidate.

Also, during the interviews, I responded very well about the latest news and events that are happening in the world: Brexit, Quantitative Easing, MPS, and so on, and and I received congratulations after my good answers.

The only thing that I could do is to try to be more convinced about my answers, especially the ones about my future career.
However, if GPA is the problem, I cannot solve it, because I have no exams until February.

So, right now I don't know where to apply next.

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