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After more than four decades of research and development, a new type of jet engine is being tested that could eventually propel aircraft anywhere in the world within two hours or help boost cargoes into space at significantly lower costs than current methods permit.

incorrect portions highlighted.......

A. tested that could eventually propel aircraft anywhere in the world within two hours or help
B. testedthat could eventually have the capability of propellingaircraft anywhere in the world within two hours or to help
C. tested, eventually able to propel aircraft anywhere in the world within two hours, orhelping
D. tested, and it eventually could propel aircraft anywhere in the world within two hours or helping
E. tested, and it could eventually have the capability to propel aircraft anywhere in the world within two hours or help.....CORRECT....



TO ME .....THE PORTION......."TESTED THAT COULD EVENTUALLY PROPEL" ......APPEARED AMBIGUOUS ....WHAT COULD " THAT" MEAN.....ie WHAT COULD PROPEL.....THAT SHOULD FOLLOW IMMEDIATELY AFTER WHAT IT MODIFIES....


HELLO..

in case of words such as that,which..they can modify slightly far away words that eventually makes sense ...its a rule discussed on many forums on gmatclub..
heres one classic example -


the box of nails,that is on the counter, is to be used on this project.

its a correct sentence as 'is' represents singular noun which can only be a box here..

for more details on this,u can visit article from magoosh..

http://magoosh.com/gmat/2013/modifiers- ... orrection/


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New post 27 Jun 2014, 00:54
This one is confirmed-gmat-prep problem.

As we know that if modifier is quite long (as Ron says 6 miles long) then we can place verb before modifier to keep verb close to the subject. Definitely all other choice are either awkward or wordy and even I felt that no choice is correct, but now A makes sense after reading discussion on mgmat forum.

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the box of nails,that is on the counter, is to be used on this project.

its a correct sentence as 'is' represents singular noun which can only be a box here..

A very minor thing is that if this sentence were to appear on GMAT, you would expect that there is no comma before that.

This is because that is (what is called as) essential modifier and so, is not preceded by a comma.

On the other hand, which is (what is called as) non-essential modifier and is always preceded by a comma.

Having said that, for the most part, punctuation per-se is not explicitly tested on GMAT.
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The OA was (A), but I chose (E) because the engine may eventually have the ability to propel, not eventually propel (as option (A) suggests). I also agree with the explanation that shekharvineet gave! Thoughts?
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The OA was (A), but I chose (E) because the engine may eventually have the ability to propel, not eventually propel (as option (A) suggests). I also agree with the explanation that shekharvineet gave! Thoughts?


"Can" and "have the capability" are redundant.

I can do so... correct.
I have the capability to do so...... correct
I can have the capability to do so.... redundant.

Therefore E is wrong ("could" here is the hypothetical case of "can").
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After more than four decades of research and development, a new type of jet engine is being tested that could eventually propel aircraft anywhere in the world within two hours or help boost cargoes into space at significantly lower costs than current methods permit.

(A) tested that could eventually propel aircraft anywhere in the world within two hours or help
(B) tested that could eventually have the capability of propelling aircraft anywhere in the world within two hours or to help
(C) tested, eventually able to propel aircraft anywhere in the world within two hours, or helping
(D) tested, and it eventually could propel aircraft anywhere in the world within two hours or helping
(E) tested, and it could eventually have the capability to propel aircraft anywhere in the world within two hours or help
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No need to strain much to reach the goal in a good number of the cases, if we can spot the easily visible and simple errors in a sentence.
'1. Have the capability has never been the correct selection in GMAT. Add to that the redundancy of 'could', and it becomes a popping error. Drop B and E reflexively
2.if there is going to be participle after the fanboys 'or' in the second arm, there should be a correspondingly parallel participle in the first arm. if not, it is a foul on symmetrical parallelism. One can make bold to eliminate C and D on this count.
A is left.
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Imo A
B is wordy and awkward
C is a fragment .
D used and
E used and
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Hi All,

can some one provide a link for usage of that

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After more than four decades of research and development, a new type of jet engine is being tested that could eventually propel aircraft anywhere in the world within two hours or help boost cargoes into space at significantly lower costs than current methods permit.

(A) tested that could eventually propel aircraft anywhere in the world within two hours or help
(B) tested that could eventually have the capability of propelling aircraft anywhere in the world within two hours or to help
(C) tested, eventually able to propel aircraft anywhere in the world within two hours, or helping
(D) tested, and it eventually could propel aircraft anywhere in the world within two hours or helping
(E) tested, and it could eventually have the capability to propel aircraft anywhere in the world within two hours or help
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After more than four decades of research and development, a new type of jet engine is being tested that could eventually propel aircraft anywhere in the world within two hours or help boost cargoes into space at significantly lower costs than current methods permit.

(A) tested that could eventually propel aircraft anywhere in the world within two hours or help

(B) tested that could eventually have the capability of propelling aircraft anywhere in the world within two hours or to help

(C) tested, eventually able to propel aircraft anywhere in the world within two hours, or helping

(D) tested, and it eventually could propel aircraft anywhere in the world within two hours or helping

(E) tested, and it could eventually have the capability to propel aircraft anywhere in the world within two hours or help
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After more than four decades of research and development, a new type of jet engine is being tested that could eventually propel aircraft anywhere in the world within two hours or help boost cargoes into space at significantly lower costs than current methods permit.

(A) tested that could eventually propel aircraft anywhere in the world within two hours or help
(B) tested that could eventually have the capability of propelling aircraft anywhere in the world within two hours or to help
(C) tested, eventually able to propel aircraft anywhere in the world within two hours, or helping
(D) tested, and it eventually could propel aircraft anywhere in the world within two hours or helping
(E) tested, and it could eventually have the capability to propel aircraft anywhere in the world within two hours or help
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a new type of jet engine is being tested that could eventually propel aircraft

In the above underlined statement that cannot refer to "a new type of jet engine" because
"that" is placed after the verb "is being".

IMO , A is wrong , E is fine
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a new type of jet engine is being tested that could eventually propel aircraft

In the above underlined statement that cannot refer to "a new type of jet engine" because
"that" is placed after the verb "is being".

IMO , A is wrong , E is fine

Hi rkandula, this is an official question and the official answer is A.

So, this just shows how flexible that is, in terms of what that can modify, even a noun before the verb.
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May i know which version of OG has this question , curious to see the official explanation :)
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May i know which version of OG has this question , curious to see the official explanation :)

This seems to be a GMATPrep question and hence, no official explanation will be available.

In any case, official explanations are of some use for incorrect options.

Also, I do recollect coming across another question from a recent OG, where which was doing the same thing. Again, can't remember the exact question.
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After more than four decades of research and development, a new type of jet engine is being tested that could eventually propel aircraft anywhere in the world within two hours or help boost cargoes into space at significantly lower costs than current methods permit.

(A) tested that could eventually propel aircraft anywhere in the world within two hours or help
(B) tested that could eventually have the capability of propelling aircraft anywhere in the world within two hours or to help
(C) tested, eventually able to propel aircraft anywhere in the world within two hours, or helping
(D) tested, and it eventually could propel aircraft anywhere in the world within two hours or helping
(E) tested, and it could eventually have the capability to propel aircraft anywhere in the world within two hours or help


what make us not choose A is that "that could..." is far from new type. this case is special because normally relative clause must be close to the noun. however if the relative clause is long we can make a pattern like in choice A. this pattern is so special that we can not find any explanation of it in grammar book. but , nothing to know more. we learn this pattern inhere.

this problem prove that after learning basic grammar, we can learn new point of grammar in the text we read. reading and realizing/infering the grammar in the text is key to mastering of english.
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i dont think grammar works in a random fashion , if we start inferring grammar from text then inference can go in infinite ways.
I guess "That" in the sentence ,IMO , for sure cannot to refer to a noun before the verb .

Some one said its an official question , but there was no explanation .
Some other said similar question from OG , but no mention of which question and in which OG version.

Given this data not sure how could any one take A as the answer
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Hi Experts / GMATNinja / sayantanc2k,

Can you please confirm my analysis on choice C?

(C) tested, eventually able to propel aircraft anywhere in the world within two hours, or helping

1) Meaning issue 1: "eventually able to.." is now converted to an adverbial modifier it seems and doesn't convey the meaning. IMO it now modifies the verb "is being tested". Plus the comma before "or" is a little awkward, though not a major issue.
2) Parallelism issue - to propel not parallel to helping
3) Meaning issue 2: "eventually able to.." the use of hypothetical could is gone. Now it looks like the jet engine can definitely propel .. or help.. - we need could here since its a possibility.

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A. tested that could eventually propel aircraft anywhere in the world within two hours or help

TO ME .....THE PORTION......."TESTED THAT COULD EVENTUALLY PROPEL" ......APPEARED AMBIGUOUS ....WHAT COULD " THAT" MEAN.....ie WHAT COULD PROPEL.....THAT SHOULD FOLLOW IMMEDIATELY AFTER WHAT IT MODIFIES....


I totally agree, and I find that structure to be awkward and illogical. The following alternative structures are better.

After more than four decades of research and development, being tested is a new type of jet engine that could eventually propel aircraft anywhere in the world within two hours or help boost cargoes into space at significantly lower costs than current methods permit.

After more than four decades of research and development, a new type of jet engine that could eventually propel aircraft anywhere in the world within two hours or help boost cargoes into space at significantly lower costs than current methods permit is being tested.

Regardless of whether one could debate that the structure is OK, GMAC should not have used such an illogical, awkward, unfamiliar, and debatably incorrect structure in an OA. The question should have been edited or thrown out.
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