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Amazon Expose - Sweat Shop of 21st Century?

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NY Times and USA Today have both posted interesting pieces on the Amazon and their work practices
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/16/techn ... place.html
http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2015 ... /31831119/

As someone living in Seattle and familiar with a few folks from Amazon (both present and former employees), I am surprised it has taken this long to surface. Pretty much everyone I talked to, commented that the hours are long, the comp is heavily stock-based, and growth is crazy but very competitive and often changing environment. Curious if anyone has a different perspective? Is this the ideal place for BSchool Grads? :-)
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It was obviously a really interesting piece and good insight into the environment more and more white-collar workers are in. However, I've heard plenty of stories reflecting the other side. Many of my friends there love their work at Amazon and find the environment thrilling.
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We had an "Amazon Day" recently at my school and I have to say, everyone that was there loved working at Amazon. They did admit that some see the culture as adversarial, however they believed that it was this kind of culture that made it great. It's likely that in any company, career, or work environment that truly believes in meritocracy like I-banking or consulting, you'll probably see similar behavior. For example, although Bain has consistently won awards for being one of the best companies to work for, it has notoriously high turnover when compared to typical Fortune 500 companies but it's just a known factor going into an industry like management consulting not everyone will make it the 8-10 years it takes to make partner. But everyone enjoys their time there and they accomplish great things. I just think that a lot of people from the outside expect Amazon to be like the traditional big companies of the past or more like Google, but I think it's just a culture that squeezes and awards excellence. Even when you read the article, a lot of former Amazonians said that although work may have been intense, they thought it was a great experience.

Personally, I'd be excited to work there and have the opportunity to be pushed to my limit. I think I'd look back and be proud of my work.
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Thanks for sharing! Good luck with recruiting and internship search - I do hear Amazon is pretty competitive... though my latest contact has just left in lieu of another position with a smaller company (I have not asked about the pay for obvious reasons but next time I run into him, will ask).
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Thanks bb !

By the way, just found this article regarding investment bankers and the way people view their work/life balance issue. http://qz.com/523077/an-open-letter-to-tormented-young-bankers-everywhere-stop-whining/

I have the same argument surrounding people who choose to work at Amazon.
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I recently heard that Amazon is still recruiting full-time heavily until now for various LDPs, this despite having heavy on-campus recruiting back in Fall. I've heard yield has been especially bad. This is just hearsay from people who recruited/are recruiting there, but I'm guessing the article probably has done some damage to Amazon's attractiveness as an MBA employer.

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I recently heard that Amazon is still recruiting full-time heavily until now for various LDPs, this despite having heavy on-campus recruiting back in Fall. I've heard yield has been especially bad. This is just hearsay from people who recruited/are recruiting there, but I'm guessing the article probably has done some damage to Amazon's attractiveness as an MBA employer.



I do not think it will do much damage though. It is still Amazon. And the fact that we have not heard the same bad things about other companies do not mean they do not have them. It took so long to hear from Amazon, so ....
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Yeah, it seems like the Amazon buzz has mostly come and gone. In fact, it might even have helped them a bit. Seems like most business school graduates want to "punish" themselves and work in banking or consulting :)

Now amazon can include themselves in that group!
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It would be great to hear from someone who has worked or interned at Amazon.

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I used to work at Amazon. There are those who love it (and end up staying there 5+ years or their entire careers), and those who are mortal and end up leaving after a few years for greener pastures. Pay is definitely dependent on RSU (which is very, very back-heavy), and base compensation is average at best unless you’re in Tech/AWS. Don't expect Facebook/Google/Microsoft perks or benefits. You will definitely be pushed to your limit, but you really do get to work on exciting projects. Everyone has their own tolerance levels, so just know what you’re getting yourself into before you join Amazon.

Experiences at Amazon are highly dependent on team and manager. If your manager is bad, you will be miserable. I guess this is true with any company, but it is exacerbated at Amazon because of the performance review/stack-ranking process. I had lots of friends who were in the LDP’s, and experiences vary. In my opinion the best roles at Amazon for post-MBA are in Ops/Supply Chain and Product Management. Retail roles are good if you’re interests are Retail or General Management, but hours will be long and stress will be high. I would not take a marketing role at Amazon – it’s not true marketing like P&G/CPG. But regardless of all the bad press, people will still flock to Amazon because, well, it’s Amazon.

Personally, I left Amazon because I got married and wanted to enjoy my marriage :)

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