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21 Sep 2016, 19:47
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Hello everyone,
Lately, I've been thinking about something and I thought let me ask this on the sacred gmatclub.
So, I've been preparing for GMAT for last couple of months. I had planned to appear for the test by September mid and apply in Round 2. Alas, that's not happening. I am not scoring near my target score in mock tests. Now, considering that there are other aspects of the application apart from the GMAT, I am not sure if my application will be ready by Round 2. Even if it is, I just feel that I'd have to rush things a bit. Not sure if that's a good idea.
My concerns:
1) I'd like to apply in Round 3. I am concerned if it will be too late. It seems that by Round 3 most of the seats will be occupied and it gets a little bit competitive. Also, wondering how will be my profile considered in Round 3.
2) If I forget about applying this year and consider applying next year, I'll be 29 by the time I enter the program and I fear my professional experience will not improve much. I'll be just adding 1 more year to my work experience. I am not gaining new skills and there is no leadership opportunity at my current job. If there was something like that, I wouldn't mind waiting 1 more year. That's why I would rather prefer to get enrolled in 2017 than in 2018.
Below mentioned is some background information about myself.
Indian Citizen, 27 years old male, Green Card holder
X - 84%
XII - 76%
Bachelors in Computer Engineering - Gujarat University - 66% (My undergrad transcript says 3.8 CGPA, but I am not sure if that's the right conversion).
GMAT - yet to give.
Work experience
Total work experience more than 5 years
Currently, working as a Web Developer / Web Master for a small high tech company. The company is one of the leaders in the surveillance industry, though.
Previously, worked in India as a Web Developer. No big name companies here. I did manage a few projects in which I had some junior team members assigned to me, but not a significant professional leadership role so far to showcase.
Extra curricular activities
1) Volunteered for an NGO for 6 months. Spent time with underprivileged kids and taught them English and Math. This was 3-4 years ago. I used to do it on the weekends.
2) I organized many MBA focused meetups - Pagalguy meetups - in my hometown. Something like a local gmatclub. This was also a few years ago.
3) One of the companies I worked for had a communication and public speaking club. I was a proactive member of that club. I won a debate, hosted a debate, and have certificates to showcase. I was a leader/mentor for one of the club chapters. This was during 2014-15. The company in reference is an Indian subsidiary of an American company. The American company is known as "Google" for property management software.
4) I have a blog on which I have published travelogues, poetry, and fiction. I've written a few sponsored blog posts as well for marketing campaigns for a few FMCG companies.
5) I've performed stand up at some open mics in the US.
Short Term Goal
Role: I am interested in making a move to Product Management / Management Consulting.
Location: Currently, I am on the east coast. However, I would like to move to the west coast.
Target schools - UCLA, Carnegie Mellon, Cornell, UNC Kenan-Flagler, UT Austin, Foster
I would appreciate some advice / opinion. If you are in the same boat (whether you are in India or in the US), give me a holler.
Thanks,
Jay
Lately, I've been thinking about something and I thought let me ask this on the sacred gmatclub.
So, I've been preparing for GMAT for last couple of months. I had planned to appear for the test by September mid and apply in Round 2. Alas, that's not happening. I am not scoring near my target score in mock tests. Now, considering that there are other aspects of the application apart from the GMAT, I am not sure if my application will be ready by Round 2. Even if it is, I just feel that I'd have to rush things a bit. Not sure if that's a good idea.
My concerns:
1) I'd like to apply in Round 3. I am concerned if it will be too late. It seems that by Round 3 most of the seats will be occupied and it gets a little bit competitive. Also, wondering how will be my profile considered in Round 3.
2) If I forget about applying this year and consider applying next year, I'll be 29 by the time I enter the program and I fear my professional experience will not improve much. I'll be just adding 1 more year to my work experience. I am not gaining new skills and there is no leadership opportunity at my current job. If there was something like that, I wouldn't mind waiting 1 more year. That's why I would rather prefer to get enrolled in 2017 than in 2018.
Below mentioned is some background information about myself.
Indian Citizen, 27 years old male, Green Card holder
X - 84%
XII - 76%
Bachelors in Computer Engineering - Gujarat University - 66% (My undergrad transcript says 3.8 CGPA, but I am not sure if that's the right conversion).
GMAT - yet to give.
Work experience
Total work experience more than 5 years
Currently, working as a Web Developer / Web Master for a small high tech company. The company is one of the leaders in the surveillance industry, though.
Previously, worked in India as a Web Developer. No big name companies here. I did manage a few projects in which I had some junior team members assigned to me, but not a significant professional leadership role so far to showcase.
Extra curricular activities
1) Volunteered for an NGO for 6 months. Spent time with underprivileged kids and taught them English and Math. This was 3-4 years ago. I used to do it on the weekends.
2) I organized many MBA focused meetups - Pagalguy meetups - in my hometown. Something like a local gmatclub. This was also a few years ago.
3) One of the companies I worked for had a communication and public speaking club. I was a proactive member of that club. I won a debate, hosted a debate, and have certificates to showcase. I was a leader/mentor for one of the club chapters. This was during 2014-15. The company in reference is an Indian subsidiary of an American company. The American company is known as "Google" for property management software.
4) I have a blog on which I have published travelogues, poetry, and fiction. I've written a few sponsored blog posts as well for marketing campaigns for a few FMCG companies.
5) I've performed stand up at some open mics in the US.
Short Term Goal
Role: I am interested in making a move to Product Management / Management Consulting.
Location: Currently, I am on the east coast. However, I would like to move to the west coast.
Target schools - UCLA, Carnegie Mellon, Cornell, UNC Kenan-Flagler, UT Austin, Foster
I would appreciate some advice / opinion. If you are in the same boat (whether you are in India or in the US), give me a holler.
Thanks,
Jay
21 Sep 2016, 20:02
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Hi Jay, I can understand why you feel like you might be in a pickle. However you would be nuts to apply to around 3, being an overrepresented Indian male.
Applying around 2 with a crappy GMAT is also bad. What I would recommend is that you apply round one next year. I realize that you are getting a little older, however I think that if you have greatly improved your profile by that point it will be worth it.
Also you can apply to some European schools where age is a little bit less stringent.
Realizing that you are probably not going to have a lot of leadership opportunities at work, find those same opportunities within a non-profit, or some cause you believe in.. leadership can be demonstrated a multitude of ways, and so your mission is to do that outside of work.
If there's any way you can do that inside of work, get any International work experience or anything, that would be wonderful as well but if not this is the next best thing.
I would focus the next year on six months of really differentiating your profile from other Indians, getting onto a board or doing some kind of major leadership outside of work. And of course getting the GMAT score up by whatever means necessary.
Whatever it is you're doing now do something else, the key is to switch it up to find what works for you not to keep expecting different results from the same thing. Get into a study group hire a tutor try some different techniques.
And it would probably be worthwhile for you to try a mock GRE on the MP website. Even though it probably would feel icky to have to start from scratch if you get better results with that particular test them doesn't really matter what you've done in the past.
And then 6 months from now, put all your focus and attention on doing the apps really well. I don't really think many people know what that really means. I have a recent blog post about that. This would involve giving out a deep dive into your own psyche, crafting really compelling stories creating a really easy to understand resume, stuff like that.
Get a letter of recommendation from a non profit relationship you will develop.
This is what I think would be the best path call me rather than suffer and limp through the GMAT and hope for the best with round three applications, where even the most unique candidates have terrible odds of getting in to their safety schools.
Farrell Dyan Hehn, MBA
Admissions Consultant & Verbal Strategist MBAPrepCoach.com
Applying around 2 with a crappy GMAT is also bad. What I would recommend is that you apply round one next year. I realize that you are getting a little older, however I think that if you have greatly improved your profile by that point it will be worth it.
Also you can apply to some European schools where age is a little bit less stringent.
Realizing that you are probably not going to have a lot of leadership opportunities at work, find those same opportunities within a non-profit, or some cause you believe in.. leadership can be demonstrated a multitude of ways, and so your mission is to do that outside of work.
If there's any way you can do that inside of work, get any International work experience or anything, that would be wonderful as well but if not this is the next best thing.
I would focus the next year on six months of really differentiating your profile from other Indians, getting onto a board or doing some kind of major leadership outside of work. And of course getting the GMAT score up by whatever means necessary.
Whatever it is you're doing now do something else, the key is to switch it up to find what works for you not to keep expecting different results from the same thing. Get into a study group hire a tutor try some different techniques.
And it would probably be worthwhile for you to try a mock GRE on the MP website. Even though it probably would feel icky to have to start from scratch if you get better results with that particular test them doesn't really matter what you've done in the past.
And then 6 months from now, put all your focus and attention on doing the apps really well. I don't really think many people know what that really means. I have a recent blog post about that. This would involve giving out a deep dive into your own psyche, crafting really compelling stories creating a really easy to understand resume, stuff like that.
Get a letter of recommendation from a non profit relationship you will develop.
This is what I think would be the best path call me rather than suffer and limp through the GMAT and hope for the best with round three applications, where even the most unique candidates have terrible odds of getting in to their safety schools.
Farrell Dyan Hehn, MBA
Admissions Consultant & Verbal Strategist MBAPrepCoach.com
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22 Sep 2016, 02:20
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1. Do NOT apply R3, especially as an Indian.
2. The age difference between 28 and 29 is hardly significant. The mean age at most top b schools is 28. I guess 29 is not even one standard deviation above the mean.
2. The age difference between 28 and 29 is hardly significant. The mean age at most top b schools is 28. I guess 29 is not even one standard deviation above the mean.
