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New post 06 Nov 2016, 03:23
iMyself wrote:
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As contrasted with the honeybee, the yellow jacket can sting repeatedly without dying and carries a potent venom that can cause intense pain.
(A) As contrasted with the honeybee
(B) In contrast to the honeybee’s
(C) Unlike the sting of the honeybee
(D) Unlike that of the honeybee
(E) Unlike the honeybee


Hi Expert,
I'm little bit confused about the structure of this sentence. As far I know if we use ‘unlike’ in the sentence, then it gives the opposite meaning of the specific noun.
If I say:
Unlike Robert, Mr. Smith is a (…………………..). In the bracket, I’ve to put something, which is not owned by Robert.
Example:
Unlike Robert, Mr. Smith is a (doctor).
>>>The sentence implies that Robert is not a doctor.
In the original sentence of this question, it says:
Unlike the honeybee, the yellow jacket can sting repeatedly without dying and carries a potent venom that can cause intense pain.
Now, we can separate this sentence with different parts.

1) The yellow jacket can sting repeatedly without dying.
This part says that “The honeybee can’t sting repeatedly without dying”. Is it true for honeybee, expert?

2) The yellow jacket carries a potent venom.
This part says that “The honeybee doesn’t carry a potent venom”. Is it true for honeybee, expert?
Thank you all.


NOT (A AND B) is equivalent to (NOT A) OR (NOT B).
Hence all you can say from the given sentence is that the honeybee cannot do both the things - either it cannot sting repeatedly or it does not carry a potent venom. (The honeybee though may be capable of doing any ONE or NONE of the above two things.)
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New post 06 Nov 2016, 08:39
sayantanc2k wrote:
iMyself wrote:
nehanishika wrote:
As contrasted with the honeybee, the yellow jacket can sting repeatedly without dying and carries a potent venom that can cause intense pain.
(A) As contrasted with the honeybee
(B) In contrast to the honeybee’s
(C) Unlike the sting of the honeybee
(D) Unlike that of the honeybee
(E) Unlike the honeybee


Hi Expert,
I'm little bit confused about the structure of this sentence. As far I know if we use ‘unlike’ in the sentence, then it gives the opposite meaning of the specific noun.
If I say:
Unlike Robert, Mr. Smith is a (…………………..). In the bracket, I’ve to put something, which is not owned by Robert.
Example:
Unlike Robert, Mr. Smith is a (doctor).
>>>The sentence implies that Robert is not a doctor.
In the original sentence of this question, it says:
Unlike the honeybee, the yellow jacket can sting repeatedly without dying and carries a potent venom that can cause intense pain.
Now, we can separate this sentence with different parts.

1) The yellow jacket can sting repeatedly without dying.
This part says that “The honeybee can’t sting repeatedly without dying”. Is it true for honeybee, expert?

2) The yellow jacket carries a potent venom.
This part says that “The honeybee doesn’t carry a potent venom”. Is it true for honeybee, expert?
Thank you all.


NOT (A AND B) is equivalent to (NOT A) OR (NOT B).
Hence all you can say from the given sentence is that the honeybee cannot do both the things - either it cannot sting repeatedly or it does not carry a potent venom. (The honeybee though may be capable of doing any ONE or NONE of the above two things.)

Thank you sayantanc2k for your kind response.
Well. I'm going to give you honeybee's actual features. Here is given honeybee's actual activities in the following.
The feature of honeybee:
1/ The honeybee can’t sting repeatedly without dying.
2/ The honeybee DOES carry a potent venom.
So, do you think that THIS sentence still makes sense, sayantanc2k ?
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New post 06 Nov 2016, 10:49
iMyself wrote:
sayantanc2k wrote:
iMyself wrote:

Hi Expert,
I'm little bit confused about the structure of this sentence. As far I know if we use ‘unlike’ in the sentence, then it gives the opposite meaning of the specific noun.
If I say:
Unlike Robert, Mr. Smith is a (…………………..). In the bracket, I’ve to put something, which is not owned by Robert.
Example:
Unlike Robert, Mr. Smith is a (doctor).
>>>The sentence implies that Robert is not a doctor.
In the original sentence of this question, it says:
Unlike the honeybee, the yellow jacket can sting repeatedly without dying and carries a potent venom that can cause intense pain.
Now, we can separate this sentence with different parts.

1) The yellow jacket can sting repeatedly without dying.
This part says that “The honeybee can’t sting repeatedly without dying”. Is it true for honeybee, expert?

2) The yellow jacket carries a potent venom.
This part says that “The honeybee doesn’t carry a potent venom”. Is it true for honeybee, expert?
Thank you all.


NOT (A AND B) is equivalent to (NOT A) OR (NOT B).
Hence all you can say from the given sentence is that the honeybee cannot do both the things - either it cannot sting repeatedly or it does not carry a potent venom. (The honeybee though may be capable of doing any ONE or NONE of the above two things.)

Thank you sayantanc2k for your kind response.
Well. I'm going to give you honeybee's actual features. Here is given honeybee's actual activities in the following.
The feature of honeybee:
1/ The honeybee can’t sting repeatedly without dying.
2/ The honeybee DOES carry a potent venom.
So, do you think that THIS sentence still makes sense, sayantanc2k ?


Of course it makes perfect sense. The honeybee has ONE of the capabilities, not BOTH. The last sentence of my previous post already explains this. In case you are still not clear, please feel free to post again here (and send me a PM with the link - in case I miss your post) - I would be happy to discuss further.
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New post 06 Nov 2016, 14:20
sayantanc2k wrote:
iMyself wrote:
sayantanc2k wrote:

NOT (A AND B) is equivalent to (NOT A) OR (NOT B).
Hence all you can say from the given sentence is that the honeybee cannot do both the things - either it cannot sting repeatedly or it does not carry a potent venom. (The honeybee though may be capable of doing any ONE or NONE of the above two things.)

Thank you sayantanc2k for your kind response.
Well. I'm going to give you honeybee's actual features. Here is given honeybee's actual activities in the following.
The feature of honeybee:
1/ The honeybee can’t sting repeatedly without dying.
2/ The honeybee DOES carry a potent venom.
So, do you think that THIS sentence still makes sense, sayantanc2k ?


Of course it makes perfect sense. The honeybee has ONE of the capabilities, not BOTH. The last sentence of my previous post already explains this. In case you are still not clear, please feel free to post again here (and send me a PM with the link - in case I miss your post) - I would be happy to discuss further.

So, if I say:
Unlike Robert, Mr. Smith is a doctor and teacher.
It indicates that Robert is EITHER doctor OR teacher, or, EITHER teacher OR doctor.
or, Robert is NEITHER doctor NOR teacher.

or If I say:
Unlike iMyself, sayantanc2k 's GMAT score is Quant 50 and Verbal 47.
Also, this indicates that iMself's GMAT score is EITHER quant 50 OR verbal SOMETHING, which is not exact 47.
or, iMself's GMAT score is EITHER quant SOMETHING, which is not exact 50 OR verbal 47.
or, iMyself's GMAT score is NEITHER quant 50 NOR verbal 47.
right?
Thank you...
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iMyself wrote:
sayantanc2k wrote:
iMyself wrote:
Thank you sayantanc2k for your kind response.
Well. I'm going to give you honeybee's actual features. Here is given honeybee's actual activities in the following.
The feature of honeybee:
1/ The honeybee can’t sting repeatedly without dying.
2/ The honeybee DOES carry a potent venom.
So, do you think that THIS sentence still makes sense, sayantanc2k ?


Of course it makes perfect sense. The honeybee has ONE of the capabilities, not BOTH. The last sentence of my previous post already explains this. In case you are still not clear, please feel free to post again here (and send me a PM with the link - in case I miss your post) - I would be happy to discuss further.

So, if I say:
Unlike Robert, Mr. Smith is a doctor and teacher.
It indicates that Robert is EITHER doctor OR teacher, or, EITHER teacher OR doctor.
or, Robert is NEITHER doctor NOR teacher.

or If I say:
Unlike iMyself, sayantanc2k 's GMAT score is Quant 50 and Verbal 47.
Also, this indicates that iMself's GMAT score is EITHER quant 50 OR verbal SOMETHING, which is not exact 47.
or, iMself's GMAT score is EITHER quant SOMETHING, which is not exact 50 OR verbal 47.
or, iMyself's GMAT score is NEITHER quant 50 NOR verbal 47.
right?
Thank you...


I shall rectify your sentences a bit:
It indicates that Robert is EITHER doctor OR teacher, or, EITHER teacher OR doctor. OR Robert is NEITHER doctor NOR teacher.
In other words Robert cannot be both doctor and teacher.

The second sentence means:
imyself scores could be anything other than Q=50 V=47.
It could be Q=50 V<>47
It could be Q<>50 V=47
It could be Q<>50 V<>47
BUT,
it cannot be Q=50 V=47.
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sayantanc2k wrote:
iMyself wrote:
sayantanc2k wrote:
Of course it makes perfect sense. The honeybee has ONE of the capabilities, not BOTH. The last sentence of my previous post already explains this. In case you are still not clear, please feel free to post again here (and send me a PM with the link - in case I miss your post) - I would be happy to discuss further.

So, if I say:
Unlike Robert, Mr. Smith is a doctor and teacher.
It indicates that Robert is EITHER doctor OR teacher, or, EITHER teacher OR doctor.
or, Robert is NEITHER doctor NOR teacher.

or If I say:
Unlike iMyself, sayantanc2k 's GMAT score is Quant 50 and Verbal 47.
Also, this indicates that iMself's GMAT score is EITHER quant 50 OR verbal SOMETHING, which is not exact 47.
or, iMself's GMAT score is EITHER quant SOMETHING, which is not exact 50 OR verbal 47.
or, iMyself's GMAT score is NEITHER quant 50 NOR verbal 47.
right?
Thank you...


I shall rectify your sentences a bit:
It indicates that Robert is EITHER doctor OR teacher, or, EITHER teacher OR doctor. OR Robert is NEITHER doctor NOR teacher.
In other words Robert cannot be both doctor and teacher.

The second sentence means:
imyself scores could be anything other than Q=50 V=47.
It could be Q=50 V<>47
It could be Q<>50 V=47
It could be Q<>50 V<>47
BUT,
it cannot be Q=50 V=47.

sayantanc2k, you've rectified the following code.
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Unlike Robert, Mr. Smith is a doctor and teacher.
It indicates that Robert is EITHER doctor OR teacher, or, EITHER teacher OR doctor.
or, Robert is NEITHER doctor NOR teacher.

Actuall, i want to mean here the following:
Robert is EITHER doctor OR teacher.
Robert is EITHER teacher OR doctor.
Robert is NEITHER doctor NOR teacher.

So, is there any mistake here?
Thanks...
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iMyself wrote:
sayantanc2k, you've rectified the following code.
Quote:
Unlike Robert, Mr. Smith is a doctor and teacher.
It indicates that Robert is EITHER doctor OR teacher, or, EITHER teacher OR doctor.
or, Robert is NEITHER doctor NOR teacher.

Actuall, i want to mean here the following:
Robert is EITHER doctor OR teacher.
Robert is EITHER teacher OR doctor.
Robert is NEITHER doctor NOR teacher.

So, is there any mistake here?
Thanks...


The first two clauses mean exactly the same. Hence using them together is redundant. Hence I suggested deleting the second clause.
(Robert is EITHER doctor OR teacher) OR (Robert is EITHER teacher OR doctor).
One of the clauses above is redundant and hence the above sentence is wrong.
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E: Simple and properly compares Honeybee with the Yellow Jacket

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As contrasted with the honeybee, the yellow jacket can sting repeatedly without dying and carries a potent venom that can cause intense pain.
(A) As contrasted with the honeybee
(B) In contrast to the honeybee’s
(C) Unlike the sting of the honeybee
(D) Unlike that of the honeybee
(E) Unlike the honeybee

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A "As contrasted with" is not an idiom.
B "Honey bee's" is incorrectly compared to the "yellow jacket."
C Incorrectly compares the "sting" with the "yellow jacket."
D Incorrectly compares the "sting" with the "yellow jacket."
E Correct.
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As contrasted with the honeybee, the yellow jacket can sting repeatedly without dying and carries a potent venom that can cause intense pain.

(A) As contrasted with the honeybee
(B) In contrast to the honeybee’s
(C) Unlike the sting of the honeybee
(D) Unlike that of the honeybee
(E) Unlike the honeybee

The correct IDIOM usage is: Unlike x, y

Also, we need to compare noun vs noun, in this case - honey bee vs jacket

Hence, E is the only correct answer.

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As contrasted with the honeybee, the yellow jacket can sting repeatedly without dying and carries a potent venom that can cause intense pain.
(A) As contrasted with the honeybee
(B) In contrast to the honeybee’s
(C) Unlike the sting of the honeybee
(D) Unlike that of the honeybee
(E) Unlike the honeybee

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We are comparing honeybees to yellow jackets so E is the correct choice-

In C we cannot compare the sting of the honeybee to the yellow jacket in order to have an equal comparison- we need to directly compare the honeybee to the yellow jacket which E does

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As contrasted with the honeybee, the yellow jacket can sting repeatedly without dying and carries a potent venom that can cause intense pain.
(A) As contrasted with the honeybee - “as contrasted with X, Y” is non-idiomatic
(B) In contrast to the honeybee’s - illogical comparison - possessive “honeybee’s” is incorrect
(C) Unlike the sting of the honeybee - illogical comparison - The sting of the honeybee is contrasted with the yellow jacket
(D) Unlike that of the honeybee - illogical comparison
(E) Unlike the honeybee - Correct

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